# Haha, North Korean rocket crashes and burns within one minute of takeoff **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 13, 2012, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haha-north-korean-rocket-crashes-and-burns-within-one-minute-of-takeoff/618623 "2012-04-13T00:54:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haha-north-korean-rocket-crashes-and-burns-within-one-minute-of-takeoff/618623/61 "2012-04-13T22:13:54Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > You might even say they have a problem. Heh. Being left out of a North Korean nuclear strike, I should have such problems… ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haha-north-korean-rocket-crashes-and-burns-within-one-minute-of-takeoff/618623/62 "2012-04-13T22:35:44Z")
> [@](#): > > “Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it’s enemy action.”~~Auric Goldfinger [ol] [li]The fizzled A-Bomb test[/li][li]The Failed Rocket Test[/li][li]?[/li][/ol] Thereafter comes the mass graves… ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haha-north-korean-rocket-crashes-and-burns-within-one-minute-of-takeoff/618623/63 "2012-04-13T23:38:23Z")
> [@](#): > > “Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it’s enemy action.”~~Auric Goldfinger He had the snappy lines, but Oddjob did all the math. Hats off to him. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haha-north-korean-rocket-crashes-and-burns-within-one-minute-of-takeoff/618623/64 "2012-04-13T23:54:05Z")
> [@Musicat](#): > > But, maybe, as the article suggests, things are opening up. They didn’t close the curtains, confiscate the cameras or wipe the minds of the journalists. Hell, they even [admitted](http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/north-koreas-big-lie-era-may-be-over-as-it-admits-to-fiery-rocket-failure/article2401060/) the launch failure to their own people, and didn’t blame it on the West\*. That’s got to be a first. \*yet ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haha-north-korean-rocket-crashes-and-burns-within-one-minute-of-takeoff/618623/65 "2012-04-13T23:57:56Z")
> [@psychonaut](#): > > Sorry, you lose. [The DPRK government has publically admitted the failure](https://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/13/world/asia/north-korea-launches-rocket-defying-world-warnings.html?_r=1). My, but I was a tad bit surprised by that. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haha-north-korean-rocket-crashes-and-burns-within-one-minute-of-takeoff/618623/66 "2012-04-14T00:01:26Z")
Looks like things are starting to break down without Kim Jong-Il. I’d say it’ll get worse before it gets better, but given what we know of NK, I feel safe in saying things can only get better. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haha-north-korean-rocket-crashes-and-burns-within-one-minute-of-takeoff/618623/67 "2012-04-14T00:11:44Z")
Why do we continually agree to provide food aid to these fuckers in return for empty promises that they never intend to keep? I seriously doubt that a lot of that food aid gets to the people that need it anyway…is there any oversight on our part where the food goes? If not, then let them get hungry enough to revolt and overthrow their insane government. It just seems like a big waste of time and money otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haha-north-korean-rocket-crashes-and-burns-within-one-minute-of-takeoff/618623/68 "2012-04-14T00:14:06Z")
> [@Musicat](#): > > But, maybe, as the article suggests, things are opening up. They didn’t close the curtains, confiscate the cameras or wipe the minds of the journalists. I’m hoping that maybe people there are more aware of what BS their regime is and less willing to automatically come to the defense of it. Plus a 3rd generation of superhuman god-men (now that a good deal of north koreans have supposedly seen VHS and DVDs of life in South Korea and can compare it to the north)? Even that is going to strain credibility. ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haha-north-korean-rocket-crashes-and-burns-within-one-minute-of-takeoff/618623/69 "2012-04-14T00:43:26Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Looks like things are starting to break down without Kim Jong-Il. [1994] Looks like things are starting to break down without Kim Il-sung. [1994] ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haha-north-korean-rocket-crashes-and-burns-within-one-minute-of-takeoff/618623/70 "2012-04-14T00:56:15Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > My, but I was a tad bit surprised by that. But that’s just one take on what transpired. You’re forgetting just how super-advanced everything in North Korea is. The world was judging the launch based on the non-North Korean rockets they know. So, when this superior rocket took off then exploded, the small-minded westerners saw failure. But those in the know in North Korea knew that the rocket _was supposed to explode_ and did so at the precise right time. Unseen, unseeable, and unimaginable was the _invisible_ rocket ship released at the time of “explosion”. Right now it is hovering outside the oval office and lip reading everything said inside, the Jong-Il-nauts trying to stifle their chuckles. At least, that’s what I heard from [this guy’s](http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/) North Korean brother-in-law. ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haha-north-korean-rocket-crashes-and-burns-within-one-minute-of-takeoff/618623/71 "2012-04-14T01:11:30Z")
One of the Tosh.0 writers tweeted: “Let’s just thank God that the North Koreans are the only kind of Asians not good at math and science” NYUK NYUK NYUK [http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/295926/north-korea-blows-chance-dominate-news-cycle](http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/295926/north-korea-blows-chance-dominate-news-cycle) Cameron Gray: “That North Korean rocket broke up faster than Kim Kardashian and . . . fill in the blank.” Zero Hedge: “North Korea is redefining the term, ‘minuteman’.” The endlessly irreverent Duchess Rebecca: “Imagining Kim Jong-Un sitting alone, crying, listening to ‘Rocket Man’ on repeat.” ---
**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haha-north-korean-rocket-crashes-and-burns-within-one-minute-of-takeoff/618623/72 "2012-04-14T01:18:11Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Once again, Houston gets no respect. That was my thought too. Austin’s great, but it’s much smaller and less important that Dallas, Houston, and San Antonio. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haha-north-korean-rocket-crashes-and-burns-within-one-minute-of-takeoff/618623/73 "2012-04-14T01:18:11Z")
On the bright side, they’re still busy packing 10,000 tons of dynamite into a tunnel to simulate a 10 kiloton “nuclear weapons test”. ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haha-north-korean-rocket-crashes-and-burns-within-one-minute-of-takeoff/618623/74 "2012-04-14T02:07:29Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > Hell, they even [admitted](http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/north-koreas-big-lie-era-may-be-over-as-it-admits-to-fiery-rocket-failure/article2401060/) the launch failure to their own people, and didn’t blame it on the West\*. That’s got to be a first. The pattern has been 1 step back, 2 steps forward. That humble admission will soon be followed by renewed saber-rattling and foreigner-blaming. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haha-north-korean-rocket-crashes-and-burns-within-one-minute-of-takeoff/618623/75 "2012-04-14T04:07:49Z")
> [@Musicat](#): > > The pattern has been 1 step back, 2 steps forward. That humble admission will soon be followed by renewed saber-rattling and foreigner-blaming. Don’t I know it. The fact that they have admitted it to their own people is something new, but there are some serious concerns because they did. The regime has lost face among their own people. I give it about a fifty fifty chance that they double down and try to do something bigger than a missile launch. I wouldn’t be surprised if they tried another nuclear bomb test just for the patriotic value. Kim Jong Un doesn’t seem like a reformer to me. ---
**Author:** ![R.P.McMurphy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@R.P.McMurphy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R.P.McMurphy)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haha-north-korean-rocket-crashes-and-burns-within-one-minute-of-takeoff/618623/76 "2012-04-14T04:22:22Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > I read the [National Edition](http://www.nytimes.com/images/2012/04/13/nytfrontpage/scannat.jpg) this morning, Friday, April 13, 2012 (Friday the 13th), and there are two stories about the 2012 election on the front page - one about campaign fundraising and another about the comments by Hilary Rosen about Ann Romney. There is also a photograph of George Zimmerman being charged on the front page. No picture of any North Korean control room like on yesterday’s front page. It wasn’t too early for a story (and photograph) to be on yesterday’s front page about the North Korean rocket launch. > > The North Korean rocket _launch_ was featured prominently in yesterday’s print/electonic edition and on the website; however, the North Korean rocket FAIL is only featured prominently on the website, and they already had the story but the editors decided to put it on page A13 in the print/electronic edition. My guess is the editors decided to have the rocket launch on print/electronic/website/ect. and then when it happened (FAIL) they made the decision to not put it on the front page. What’s on the website now is the “fallout” from the launch and the FAIL. You are so wrong. I have the “Late Edition” and it is on the front page and continued on page A7. The national edition is probably the first that goes to press. Your agenda is worse than the North Korean goverment. Get a clue. ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haha-north-korean-rocket-crashes-and-burns-within-one-minute-of-takeoff/618623/77 "2012-04-14T04:55:35Z")
The only better result would have been if Dear Baby Leader and all the crazed minions who have fucked up the poor North Korean civilians had been in the rocket. ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haha-north-korean-rocket-crashes-and-burns-within-one-minute-of-takeoff/618623/78 "2012-04-14T05:16:53Z")
> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#): > > [ol] > [li]The fizzled A-Bomb test[/li][li]The Failed Rocket Test[/li][li]?[/li][/ol] Profit? Hi Opal? ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haha-north-korean-rocket-crashes-and-burns-within-one-minute-of-takeoff/618623/79 "2012-04-14T05:37:51Z")
> [@R.P.McMurphy](#): > > I have the “Late Edition” and it is on the front page and continued on page A7. The national edition is probably the first that goes to press. Late Edition = [New York Edition](http://www.nytimes.com/images/2012/04/13/nytfrontpage/scan.jpg)? 😕 > [@R.P.McMurphy](#): > > Your agenda is worse than the North Korean goverment. Get a clue. I don’t have an agenda that I know of. I got a clue. So you got a New York Edition and you’re claiming that the National Edition is probably the first that goes to press. Do you understand that the editors had the story for both the National Edition and the New York Edition/Late Edition? Can you explain why the New York Edition/Late Edition has the headline [**North Korea, Defiant, Fails In Rocket Test**](http://www.nytimes.com/images/2012/04/13/nytfrontpage/scan.jpg) while the National Edition has the headline [**North Korea Launches A Rocket, But It Fails**](http://www.nytimes.com/images/2012/04/13/nytfrontpage/scannat.jpg) and why the same story by the same reporters was put on the front page of the New York Edition/Late Edition but not for the National Edition? ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haha-north-korean-rocket-crashes-and-burns-within-one-minute-of-takeoff/618623/80 "2012-04-14T05:58:52Z")
Can I make a request? Can we just not give a shit about how quickly the _The New York Times_ reported the story? It’s just one of many, _many_ news outlets. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haha-north-korean-rocket-crashes-and-burns-within-one-minute-of-takeoff/618623.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haha-north-korean-rocket-crashes-and-burns-within-one-minute-of-takeoff/618623.md?page=5)