# Haha, North Korean rocket crashes and burns within one minute of takeoff **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 13, 2012, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haha-north-korean-rocket-crashes-and-burns-within-one-minute-of-takeoff/618623 "2012-04-13T00:54:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haha-north-korean-rocket-crashes-and-burns-within-one-minute-of-takeoff/618623/81 "2012-04-14T06:04:22Z")
The thread is about North Korea, not the reporting. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haha-north-korean-rocket-crashes-and-burns-within-one-minute-of-takeoff/618623/82 "2012-04-14T06:18:33Z")
And this just in…New York responds to failed rocket launch! “Fuhgeddaboutit!” says New York. ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haha-north-korean-rocket-crashes-and-burns-within-one-minute-of-takeoff/618623/83 "2012-04-14T06:26:29Z")
I just want to state, for the record, 😉 that the story was _ **not** _ reported on the front page of _The New York Times_ [yesterday](http://www.nytimes.com/images/2012/04/13/nytfrontpage/scannat.jpg); however, the story was reported on the front page of _The New York Times_ [today](http://www.nytimes.com/images/2012/04/14/nytfrontpage/scannat.jpg). I don’t give a shit about New York Edition, Late Edition, National Edition. > [@Zebra](#): > > I wonder if the entire population has to now cry for the failed rocket? You are [right](http://www.nytimes.com/images/2012/04/14/nytfrontpage/scannat.jpg), **Zebra**! > [@Chefguy](#): > > Wow. I’m a prophet. And so also a prophet **Zebra** is. > [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > The thread is about North Korea, not the reporting. Not when there is reporting [like this](http://www.nytimes.com/images/2012/04/14/nytfrontpage/scannat.jpg). Come on, it’s a funny photo in a serious newspaper. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haha-north-korean-rocket-crashes-and-burns-within-one-minute-of-takeoff/618623/84 "2012-04-14T06:41:23Z")
The New York Times comes in print now? ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haha-north-korean-rocket-crashes-and-burns-within-one-minute-of-takeoff/618623/85 "2012-04-14T06:47:47Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > The New York Times comes in print now? [Yes](http://www.nytimes.com/images/2012/04/14/nytfrontpage/scannat.jpg). 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haha-north-korean-rocket-crashes-and-burns-within-one-minute-of-takeoff/618623/86 "2012-04-14T12:33:40Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > Turns out the North Korea rocket FAIL was not newsworthy enought to make the front page of _The New York Times_. It was reported on page A12. Unlike the _[Revolutionary People’s Times and Asswipe,](http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/after-satellite-failure-n-korea-gets-back-to-regular-business-of-kim-love/2012/04/14/gIQAk7guGT_story.html?tid=pm_world_pop)_ which didn’t report it at all: > [@](#): > > **N. Korea gets back to regular business of Kim Love** > > North Korea’s state-run Rodong Sinmun newspaper, in its 10-page Saturday edition, gave no mention of the satellite launch. Rather, it included detailed play-by-play accounts of recent political get-togethers, held Wednesday and Friday, where Kim Jong Eun received a series of new titles that give him absolute power comparable to that of his father, Kim Jong Il, who died in December. ---
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haha-north-korean-rocket-crashes-and-burns-within-one-minute-of-takeoff/618623/87 "2012-04-14T12:43:09Z")
WEll, it seems that Obama’s policy of making nice to NK has been a failure. Why not stop the food aid? If the Chinese are so concerned, let them take over. By propping up this distatorship, we are enabling it to survive, which is not a good thing. ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haha-north-korean-rocket-crashes-and-burns-within-one-minute-of-takeoff/618623/88 "2012-04-14T13:04:17Z")
> [@ralph124c](#): > > Why not stop the food aid? An emaciated population is in no position to depose a dictator. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haha-north-korean-rocket-crashes-and-burns-within-one-minute-of-takeoff/618623/89 "2012-04-14T13:14:36Z")
> [@ralph124c](#): > > WEll, it seems that Obama’s policy of making nice to NK has been a failure. > Why not stop the food aid? If the Chinese are so concerned, let them take over. > By propping up this distatorship, we are enabling it to survive, which is not a good thing. Why not read the news? [US stops food aid to NK.](http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/13/us-usa-korea-aid-idUSBRE83C0ZD20120413) ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haha-north-korean-rocket-crashes-and-burns-within-one-minute-of-takeoff/618623/90 "2012-04-14T13:51:37Z")
> [@R.P.McMurphy](#): > > Your agenda is worse than the North Korean goverment. Get a clue. Perchance you’re confusing **Kozmik** —resident nutcase harasser of old men in waiting rooms—with **Commisar** , dearly departed nutcase fanboy for the glorious people’s revolution? ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haha-north-korean-rocket-crashes-and-burns-within-one-minute-of-takeoff/618623/91 "2012-04-14T14:06:18Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Perchance you’re confusing **Kozmik** —resident nutcase harasser of old men in waiting rooms—with **Commisar** , dearly departed nutcase fanboy for the glorious people’s revolution? Perhaps **R.P. McMurphy** is just confused: > [@R.P.McMurphy](#): > > I have the “Late Edition” and it is on the front page and continued on page A7. The national edition is probably the first that goes to press. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haha-north-korean-rocket-crashes-and-burns-within-one-minute-of-takeoff/618623/92 "2012-04-14T14:24:59Z")
> [@runner pat](#): > > Why not read the news? > [US stops food aid to NK.](http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/13/us-usa-korea-aid-idUSBRE83C0ZD20120413) What’s with those silly ass over sized hats that Commies wear? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haha-north-korean-rocket-crashes-and-burns-within-one-minute-of-takeoff/618623/93 "2012-04-14T14:34:59Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > What’s with those silly ass over sized hats that Commies wear? Better hair than their Exalted Leader and it’s a capital offense for it to show. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haha-north-korean-rocket-crashes-and-burns-within-one-minute-of-takeoff/618623/94 "2012-04-14T15:26:26Z")
> [@runner pat](#): > > Better hair than their Exalted Leader and it’s a capital offense for it to show. And they can use them as tents if they have to sleep outside. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haha-north-korean-rocket-crashes-and-burns-within-one-minute-of-takeoff/618623/95 "2012-04-14T15:33:27Z")
> [@ralph124c](#): > > WEll, it seems that Obama’s policy of making nice to NK has been a failure. > Why not stop the food aid? If the Chinese are so concerned, let them take over. > By propping up this distatorship, we are enabling it to survive, which is not a good thing. How clueless can one person be? There are so many things wrong with this, it boggles the mind. It’s like peering into the mind of somebody from bizarro world railing against liberal policies of deliberately hiring crack whores for TSA airport screening positions and wondering why Democrats don’t just directly hire those crack whores to cut their lawns instead of offering amnesty to illegal immigrants. No part of that makes sense, and no part of this makes sense. “Policy of playing nice”, really? What exactly have we done that’s different than our policy over the last 10 years? The Chinese? You think they actually want North Korea? They don’t want that shithole. They just want a buffer state. They actually want a stable North Korea. Having a bunch of insane wackos threaten nuclear war actually goes against their national interests. But they figure that’s just slightly better than a North Korean collapse with subsequent US supported Korean state on its borders. Maybe you disagree, but you can take that up with the Chinese foreign policy people. Food aid? We announced resumption **only** if North Korea played nice. Well, that didn’t happen. They haven’t gotten a single grain of rice out of us. What food aid are you blathering about? ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haha-north-korean-rocket-crashes-and-burns-within-one-minute-of-takeoff/618623/96 "2012-04-14T16:10:31Z")
> [@ralph124c](#): > > WEll, it seems that Obama’s policy of making nice to NK has been a failure. > Why not stop the food aid? If the Chinese are so concerned, let them take over. > By propping up this distatorship, we are enabling it to survive, which is not a good thing. This cracks me up, because there is a difference under Obama. Under Bush and under Clinton before him, we would make a deal, give those sons o’ bitches food, and they would renege. The most famous example is the goddamn nuclear test in 2006 after Bush gave the bastards 40,000 tons of food in 2004. The difference under Obama is that we never actually gave them anything. We _promised_ them food if they behaved themselves. Obama promised it to North Korea, but wanted some more concrete evidence they were complying with international sanctions. They didn’t, so fuck 'em. _We never actually delivered anything_. From the [Los Angeles Times:](http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-us-norkor-20120414,0,3787383.story): > [@Los Angeles Times](#): > > President Obama defended the decision to cancel U.S. humanitarian aid to a country that suffers perennial food shortages. **His administration has not previously provided any aid to the country.** So you are pretty much wrong there. Obama hasn’t given them jack shit. [Bush did though](http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/row/RS21834.pdf). ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haha-north-korean-rocket-crashes-and-burns-within-one-minute-of-takeoff/618623/97 "2012-04-14T16:13:04Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > The thread is about North Korea, not the reporting. In the words of **R.P. McMurphy** , you are so wrong. _The New York Times_’ [story](http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/14/world/asia/journalists-in-pyongyang-scooped-by-north-korea-missile-launch-failure.html?_r=1&ref=todayspaper) on the reporting: > [@](#): > > “Now in bizarre situation our NKorea minders asking ME to tell THEM if rocket has launched,” Damian Grammaticas, a BBC News correspondent, wrote in a Twitter message. Richard Engel, chief foreign correspondent for NBC News, wrote in a Twitter message that the “gov’t minders seemed to have no idea about the rocket launch . . . we informed them.” ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haha-north-korean-rocket-crashes-and-burns-within-one-minute-of-takeoff/618623/98 "2012-04-14T16:19:44Z")
Really, **Kozmik**? That’s how you respond to my post citing that Obama hasn’t given North Korea food aid? You’re more stupid than **ralph**. ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haha-north-korean-rocket-crashes-and-burns-within-one-minute-of-takeoff/618623/99 "2012-04-14T16:26:51Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > Really, **Kozmik**? That’s how you respond to my post citing that Obama hasn’t given North Korea food aid? You’re more stupid than **ralph**. I was responding to [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14965063&postcount=81) post. You’re more stupid than **ralph** , and that’s saying something. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/haha-north-korean-rocket-crashes-and-burns-within-one-minute-of-takeoff/618623/100 "2012-04-14T16:28:55Z")
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