# Hahahahaha! Hungarian anti-Semite politician surprised to learn he's Jewish! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 15, 2012, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahahahaha-hungarian-anti-semite-politician-surprised-to-learn-hes-jewish/631579 "2012-08-15T16:38:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahahahaha-hungarian-anti-semite-politician-surprised-to-learn-hes-jewish/631579/1 "2012-08-15T16:38:12Z")
[Here’s the story I noticed among the headlines.](http://news.yahoo.com/hungary-far-leader-discovers-jewish-roots-155354165.html) > [@](#): > > … Csanad Szegedi was notorious for his incendiary comments on Jews: He accused them of “buying up” the country, railed about the “Jewishness” of the political elite and claimed Jews were desecrating national symbols. … > > Then came a revelation that knocked him off his perch as ultra-nationalist standard-bearer: Szegedi himself is a Jew. This clown is actually a member of the EU parliament, and it seems clear intelligence is no more a prerequisite for that job than one on Congress here. How this revelation came about is really fuzzy, but part of it is: he had a conversation with a guy that was secretly taped. The guy told him he had proof of his Jewish ancestry, and Szegedi responds by offering the guy money and a job to STFU. Seriously, you idiot, don’t you even check the legitimacy of the “documents”? Now his loony party wants him to resign his EU seat, not because he’s Jewish, on no, of course not, but because he offered a bribe. His business partners have bailed on him. His personal assistant quit. Ah schadenfreude, how I love your bittersweet taste! ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahahahaha-hungarian-anti-semite-politician-surprised-to-learn-hes-jewish/631579/2 "2012-08-15T17:25:09Z")
Oy vat a schmuck! ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahahahaha-hungarian-anti-semite-politician-surprised-to-learn-hes-jewish/631579/3 "2012-08-15T17:32:45Z")
It’s a tragedy that a survivor of Auschwitz and Dachau had a grandchild with anti-Semitic views. I’m glad she was still alive to set him straight. Maybe, just maybe he’ll change for the better. > [@](#): > > Szegedi, who was raised Presbyterian, acknowledged his Jewish origins in June interviews with Hungarian media, including news broadcaster Hir TV and Barikad, Jobbik’s weekly magazine. He said that after the meeting with Ambrus, he had a long conversation with his grandmother, who spoke about her family’s past as Orthodox Jews. > > “It was then that it dawned on me that my grandmother really is Jewish,” Szegedi told Hir TV. “I asked her how the deportations happened. She was in Auschwitz and Dachau and she was the only survivor in the extended family.” ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahahahaha-hungarian-anti-semite-politician-surprised-to-learn-hes-jewish/631579/4 "2012-08-15T18:01:38Z")
And some people – even some people on this message board – say that anti-Semitism in Europe is no longer a problem. Here we have someone elected to the European parliament who is outspoken about his dislike of Jews. Or at least, he was. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahahahaha-hungarian-anti-semite-politician-surprised-to-learn-hes-jewish/631579/5 "2012-08-15T18:10:42Z")
I know of one Jewish anti-Semite in Australia. Used to post conspiracy crap on the IMDb. ---
**Author:** ![Vita\_Beata](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@Vita\_Beata](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vita_Beata)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahahahaha-hungarian-anti-semite-politician-surprised-to-learn-hes-jewish/631579/6 "2012-08-15T18:28:50Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Ah schadenfreude, how I love your bittersweet taste! Agreed, and love this phrase also! ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahahahaha-hungarian-anti-semite-politician-surprised-to-learn-hes-jewish/631579/7 "2012-08-15T19:12:51Z")
I don’t know why, but I don’t find anything about the whole epsiode to be _remotely_ funny. ---
**Author:** ![Philster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/13edae/32.png) [@Philster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Philster)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahahahaha-hungarian-anti-semite-politician-surprised-to-learn-hes-jewish/631579/8 "2012-08-15T19:54:25Z")
Won’t be the first person to hate himself. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahahahaha-hungarian-anti-semite-politician-surprised-to-learn-hes-jewish/631579/9 "2012-08-15T20:03:37Z")
> [@Philster](#): > > Won’t be the first person to hate himself. And at least this one didn’t know he was hating himself. I’ve remembering a female PhD student who claimed that women should never be managers or teachers, prompting a post-doc’s question of “why the fuck are you working on a PhD then? You think it’ll look pretty on the bathroom wall?” ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahahahaha-hungarian-anti-semite-politician-surprised-to-learn-hes-jewish/631579/10 "2012-08-15T20:47:34Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > And at least this one didn’t know he was hating himself. I’ve remembering a female PhD student who claimed that women should never be managers or teachers, prompting a post-doc’s question of “why the fuck are you working on a PhD then? You think it’ll look pretty on the bathroom wall?” I’ve known several women who’ve refused to work for another woman. ---
**Author:** ![Valgard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/7feea3/32.png) [@Valgard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Valgard)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahahahaha-hungarian-anti-semite-politician-surprised-to-learn-hes-jewish/631579/11 "2012-08-16T14:28:54Z")
Obligatory link to Dave Chappelle routine - Clayton Bigsby, black white supremacist: http: // [www.youtube.com](http://www.youtube.com) / watch?v=2i9iTYe6tEk Broke link, possible NSFW language. ---
**Author:** ![tagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tagos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagos)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahahahaha-hungarian-anti-semite-politician-surprised-to-learn-hes-jewish/631579/12 "2012-08-16T14:35:59Z")
> [@suranyi](#): > > And some people – even some people on this message board – say that anti-Semitism in Europe is no longer a problem. Here we have someone elected to the European parliament who is outspoken about his dislike of Jews. Or at least, he was. The former Soviet Bloc countries are awash with anti-semitism and just about any other anti you care to name. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahahahaha-hungarian-anti-semite-politician-surprised-to-learn-hes-jewish/631579/13 "2012-08-16T15:26:35Z")
This is hilarious. At least now he is out of office. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahahahaha-hungarian-anti-semite-politician-surprised-to-learn-hes-jewish/631579/14 "2012-08-16T15:47:14Z")
Rails about the Jewishness of the political elite only to find his claims are so true that he himself is Jewish! It’s a conspiracy I tells ya. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahahahaha-hungarian-anti-semite-politician-surprised-to-learn-hes-jewish/631579/15 "2012-08-16T15:52:10Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > This is hilarious. At least now he is out of office. No he isn’t. He left (or maybe was kicked out of) all his positions in the party, but he still has his seat in the EU – unless you’ve seen a more recent story than I have. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahahahaha-hungarian-anti-semite-politician-surprised-to-learn-hes-jewish/631579/16 "2012-08-16T15:59:56Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Rails about the Jewishness of the political elite only to find his claims are so true that he himself is Jewish! > > It’s a conspiracy I tells ya. The Jewish conspiracy is so secret they don’t even tell the Jews! And this guy – he was a sleeper agent. Now that he’s activated, he’ll handle his reins of power on behalf of The Mensch. ---
**Author:** ![Lust4Life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecc23a/32.png) [@Lust4Life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lust4Life)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2012, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahahahaha-hungarian-anti-semite-politician-surprised-to-learn-hes-jewish/631579/17 "2012-08-17T12:16:19Z")
It might be a case of people surrounded by those who hate them, become more converted then the converted. First as an act of self preservation, then to rationalise their behaviour they become the witch hunter rather then the witch. I’ve seen the same in Ireland, in one case a family who were incredibly Irish Nationalist, supported the worst atrocities of the P.I.R.A. and absaloutley hated the English, turned out to be almost totally of English descent, and who developed their new found Republican fervour at the time of Irish independance when Protestants and Brit descendants were being ethniclly cleansed, either by expelling them with just the clothes that they stood up in, or in the other way. And I don’t think that we can judge them, when we too are in a position where we could lose everything, would you have the guts to tell the bad guys to take a hike ? And having done that, would you have the moral courage to tell yourself that you’d actually committed an act of treachery against your friends, family and co religionists. Or convince yourselves that, that is what you WANTED to do all along ? ---
**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2012, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahahahaha-hungarian-anti-semite-politician-surprised-to-learn-hes-jewish/631579/18 "2012-08-17T21:12:56Z")
> [@Lust4Life](#): > > I’ve seen the same in Ireland, in one case a family who were incredibly Irish Nationalist, supported the worst atrocities of the P.I.R.A. and absaloutley hated the English, turned out to be almost totally of English descent, and who developed their new found Republican fervour at the time of Irish independance when Protestants and Brit descendants were being ethniclly cleansed, either by expelling them with just the clothes that they stood up in, or in the other way. Cite? ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahahahaha-hungarian-anti-semite-politician-surprised-to-learn-hes-jewish/631579/19 "2012-08-18T01:18:24Z")
Makes me wonder if Szegedi defined Jewishness as being transmitted down the mother’s line of descent. If he did, fine. Perfect comeuppance for him. If he didn’t, how is applying that definition of Jewishness to him so different from [Mormons claiming Holocaust victims](http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/story/2012-03-05/mormons-proxy-baptism-holocaust-jews/53372816/1)? ---
**Author:** ![Farmer\_Jane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Farmer\_Jane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farmer_Jane)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahahahaha-hungarian-anti-semite-politician-surprised-to-learn-hes-jewish/631579/20 "2012-08-18T01:22:02Z")
He’s “Jewish” because of a ridiculous and superstitious Jewish law that says his “Jewishness” is because of his maternal grandmother. Poppycock. He’s a Presbyterian with Jewish grandparents that failed him. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahahahaha-hungarian-anti-semite-politician-surprised-to-learn-hes-jewish/631579.md?page=2)