# Hahahahaha! Hungarian anti-Semite politician surprised to learn he's Jewish! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 15, 2012, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahahahaha-hungarian-anti-semite-politician-surprised-to-learn-hes-jewish/631579 "2012-08-15T16:38:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahahahaha-hungarian-anti-semite-politician-surprised-to-learn-hes-jewish/631579/41 "2012-08-22T19:40:23Z")
> [@thelurkinghorror](#): > > … I wonder if his relatives weren’t strongly biting their tongues when he was going about all the antisemitism. If there was a game show called “Which of You is More Ashamed of the Other?”, this guy and his family would make ideal contestants. ---
**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahahahaha-hungarian-anti-semite-politician-surprised-to-learn-hes-jewish/631579/42 "2012-08-22T20:55:02Z")
> [@Lust4Life](#): > > Well no actually, a part of Irish history that is well known to older Irish people, and for that matter, to many Irish people of all ages. > > And was related to me by some of those very people. > > (Perhaps it would make you happier if I’d got them to post it on the internet and THEN used them as a cite rather then quoting them directly. > > (A rather absurd methodology under any circumstances) > > But you’re not actually interested in Irish history are you **An Gadai**? > > You’re not here to make any relevant point (If you are then feel free to do so) > > You’re actually here to try and stymie anyone who posts anything other then effusive flattery about Ireland and all things Irish. > Though its not surprising from a self confessed( on these very boards ) hero worshipper of Irish terrorists who have killed, maimed and tortured, so many Irish people for (for them, an unwanted, irrelevant to the 21st c,) “cause” . > > I love Ireland and the Irish. > > The murderers and torturers that you so respect and admire, do not represent them. > > Not now, not ever. > > Try making some points in your posts, might make a nice change from merely trying to dsrupt threads/posts?posters, that make you feel inadequate. > Ireland is for the Irish people, not terrorist scum. Let’s add slander to your list of sins unless you can find a post of mine where I hero worshipped terrorists? You might at least be able to give me a cite for that? I’ve been posting here for 5 years so it’s possible I posted something like that and don’t recall but it doesn’t sound like something I would have posted, unless in jest. And you do your old trick of still not providing a cite when called up on your bullshit. You can ask anyone else here if it’s my style to “disrupt” threads. You’re attacking me instead of providing an adequate cite for your claims. “Something someone once told me one time fadó fadó” doesn’t really cut it and you fucking know it. ---
**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahahahaha-hungarian-anti-semite-politician-surprised-to-learn-hes-jewish/631579/43 "2012-08-22T21:01:15Z")
And just to be clear **Lust4life** , even if I vociferously claimed to support the IRA or any other terrorist group on this board, something I don’t believe I’ve ever actually done, you’d STILL require a cite for the claims you’ve made in this (and other) threads with regard to Irish history. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahahahaha-hungarian-anti-semite-politician-surprised-to-learn-hes-jewish/631579/44 "2012-08-22T22:28:04Z")
Everyone – personal attacks on each other are completely out of line in MPSIMS. Knock all of that off _immediately_. **Lust4Life** – you’re making very strong claims about what “everyone knows” about Irish history without providing any evidence of them. The fact that one or more people you have met IRL have told you things do not make those things true – but even if true, one or more incidents do not demonstrate widespread practice, let alone organized persecution of the sort you’re claiming. Yes, you do need an objective cite to back up those claims. And, back to a general comment – the Irish situation is not directly parallel, for the reasons dealt with already, so if anyone wants to discuss it further, start a new thread, preferably in Great Debates where it belongs. **twickster** , MPSIMS moderator ---
**Author:** ![Simple\_Linctus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Simple\_Linctus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simple_Linctus)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahahahaha-hungarian-anti-semite-politician-surprised-to-learn-hes-jewish/631579/45 "2012-08-22T23:18:03Z")
Twicks, I found this thread through ATMB and - honestly - I have no issue with you not knowing these details because you are not a denizen of these sceptered isles. But I promise you that asking Lust4Life to justify these claims is a bit like asking an Italian American to justify the claim that there was prejudice against them in the 1920s. It is 100% known to anyone who knows anything about the time and place and honestly An Gadai’s requests for a cite do give a weird feeling in the back of ones throat. I’m not saying it’s on the level of holocaust denial but it’s really, really, REALLY well known. Promise. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahahahaha-hungarian-anti-semite-politician-surprised-to-learn-hes-jewish/631579/46 "2012-08-22T23:29:54Z")
Sorry, it is not. My Dad was born and raised in Ireland and used to tell me tons of stories about Irish history, and I never heard any stories about it. He died about 10 years ago at age 79, so he certainly qualified as an old folk. And to tell you the truth, he was a pretty big bullshitter, and even if he told me such a story, I wouldn’t automatically believe it. It is never inappropriate to ask for a cite for something that is not universal knowledge – and this doesn’t even come close. ---
**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahahahaha-hungarian-anti-semite-politician-surprised-to-learn-hes-jewish/631579/47 "2012-08-22T23:45:52Z")
> [@Simple\_Linctus](#): > > Twicks, > > I found this thread through ATMB and - honestly - I have no issue with you not knowing these details because you are not a denizen of these sceptered isles. But I promise you that asking Lust4Life to justify these claims is a bit like asking an Italian American to justify the claim that there was prejudice against them in the 1920s. It is 100% known to anyone who knows anything about the time and place and honestly An Gadai’s requests for a cite do give a weird feeling in the back of ones throat. I’m not saying it’s on the level of holocaust denial but it’s really, really, REALLY well known. Promise. I think bringing up the notion that my requests for a cite are in the same ball park as holocaust denial is a fucking shitty move. You’re welcome to post some cites yourself to back up lust4life’s claims (in another thread as per twickster’s request), that’s all I’ve been asking and all I’ve received is insinuations that I’m a terrorist sympathiser and akin to a holocaust denier. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahahahaha-hungarian-anti-semite-politician-surprised-to-learn-hes-jewish/631579/48 "2012-08-23T00:01:24Z")
If it’s really well known, it shouldn’t be hard to find a cite for it. **Simple Linctus** , calling **An Gadaí** practically a Holocaust denier is damned close to a personal insult. **An Gadaí** , calling **Simple Linctus** ’s comment a shitty fucking move doesn’t do much to de-escalate things. I’m trying to leave this thread open, but if y’all don’t knock it off I’m going to have to close it. If you want to talk about Irish history, _start a new thread_. If you want to insult each other, take it to the Pit. **twickster** , MPSIMS moderator ---
**Author:** ![Simple\_Linctus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Simple\_Linctus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simple_Linctus)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahahahaha-hungarian-anti-semite-politician-surprised-to-learn-hes-jewish/631579/49 "2012-08-23T00:16:19Z")
> [@twickster](#): > > **Simple Linctus** , calling **An Gadaí** practically a Holocaust denier is damned close to a personal insult. Good thing I didn’t do any such thing then, isn’t it? In fact I said precisely the opposite. You can certainly read something into the fact that he misled you like this to make you think that though. Like I said earlier: mod manipulation. ---
**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahahahaha-hungarian-anti-semite-politician-surprised-to-learn-hes-jewish/631579/50 "2012-08-23T00:22:18Z")
> [@Simple\_Linctus](#): > > Good thing I didn’t do any such thing then, isn’t it? In fact I said precisely the opposite. > > You can certainly read something into the fact that he misled you like this to make you think that though. Like I said earlier: mod manipulation. Look, I’m not going to say you’re a fucking clown who uses comparisons to make _ad hominem_ arguments against people you’re avoiding debating, but it’s akin to that. Own what you’re saying, Bozo. ---
**Author:** ![Simple\_Linctus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Simple\_Linctus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simple_Linctus)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahahahaha-hungarian-anti-semite-politician-surprised-to-learn-hes-jewish/631579/51 "2012-08-23T00:26:00Z")
> [@OtakuLoki](#): > > Look, I’m not going to say you’re a fucking clown who uses comparisons to make _ad hominem_ arguments against people you’re avoiding debating, but it’s akin to that. > Own what you’re saying, Bozo. I find it very hard to respond to this in the “good faith” that I apparently should show it (that is to say not using four letter words) but oh ffs can’t be bothered. anyone can read what I said and get it p.s. regarding “cites” I did two seconds on google and found [1969 Northern Ireland riots - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1969_Northern_Ireland_riots#Effects) - that’ll do and I could find shitloads in five minutes if I really wanted to. But I don’t because EVERYONE WHO KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT THIS KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED. ---
**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahahahaha-hungarian-anti-semite-politician-surprised-to-learn-hes-jewish/631579/52 "2012-08-23T00:29:54Z")
> [@Simple\_Linctus](#): > > p.s. regarding “cites” I did two seconds on google and found [1969 Northern Ireland riots - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1969_Northern_Ireland_riots#Effects) - that’ll do and I could find shitloads in five minutes if I really wanted to. But I don’t because EVERYONE WHO KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT THIS KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED. Which has about zero relevance to what Lust4life said, try again. ---
**Author:** ![Simple\_Linctus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Simple\_Linctus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simple_Linctus)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahahahaha-hungarian-anti-semite-politician-surprised-to-learn-hes-jewish/631579/53 "2012-08-23T00:31:11Z")
Otaku I have explained the situation in the pit here: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=15413177#post15413177](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=15413177#post15413177) ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahahahaha-hungarian-anti-semite-politician-surprised-to-learn-hes-jewish/631579/54 "2012-08-23T02:36:15Z")
> [@Simple\_Linctus](#): > > Good thing I didn’t do any such thing then, isn’t it? In fact I said precisely the opposite. > > You can certainly read something into the fact that he misled you like this to make you think that though. Like I said earlier: mod manipulation. > [@Simple\_Linctus](#): > > I find it very hard to respond to this in the “good faith” that I apparently should show it (that is to say not using four letter words) but > > oh ffs can’t be bothered. > > anyone can read what I said and get it > > p.s. regarding “cites” I did two seconds on google and found [1969 Northern Ireland riots - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1969_Northern_Ireland_riots#Effects) - that’ll do and I could find shitloads in five minutes if I really wanted to. But I don’t because EVERYONE WHO KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT THIS KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED. **Simple Linctus** , you’re new here, so apparently you’re still getting the hang of things. Given that you managed to break about three rules at once, however, I’m going to go ahead and give you an official warning, for: 1. Personal insults against **An Gadaí** , 2. Personal insults against **OtakuLoki** , and 3. Ignoring moderator instructions. I encourage you to start behaving according to community standards around here if you’re hoping to continue to post at the SDMB on any kind of ongoing basis. **twickster** , MPSIMS moderator ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahahahaha-hungarian-anti-semite-politician-surprised-to-learn-hes-jewish/631579/55 "2012-08-23T02:39:31Z")
> [@OtakuLoki](#): > > Look, I’m not going to say you’re a fucking clown who uses comparisons to make _ad hominem_ arguments against people you’re avoiding debating, but it’s akin to that. > Own what you’re saying, Bozo. I am issuing a warning for personal insults, and for failure to follow moderator instructions, which were that the Ireland hijack should be taken to its own thread. **twickster** , MPSIMS moderator ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahahahaha-hungarian-anti-semite-politician-surprised-to-learn-hes-jewish/631579/56 "2012-08-23T02:43:07Z")
I am closing this thread, since clearly it’s not going to get back on track. **twickster** , MPSIMS moderator [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahahahaha-hungarian-anti-semite-politician-surprised-to-learn-hes-jewish/631579.md?page=2)