# Hahhaah...Ohio St **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 14, 2008, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahhaah-ohio-st/463526 "2008-09-14T02:48:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahhaah-ohio-st/463526/41 "2008-09-15T12:21:25Z")
Of course they’re good. My point is that every thread about college football gets turned into an SEC dick-sucking contest to the exclusion of all else. It’s been going on for years and I’m soooo tired of hearing it. Conference fanboy-ism is annoying as hell, in part because it’s directed at one, and only one, conference, year after year after year. ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahhaah-ohio-st/463526/42 "2008-09-15T12:24:31Z")
> [@neutron\_star](#): > > No, I just hate hearing about how wonderful the SEC is all the goddamn time. It gets old. See, now you know how we in the SEC have felt for years (nay, DECADES) at hearing about how great the Big 10 was. Now that their champion is no longer locked into the Rose Bowl, the Big 10 is just getting a well-deserved come-uppance. Maybe someday, somehow, the SEC will get a similar come-uppance. Just not right now. ---
**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahhaah-ohio-st/463526/43 "2008-09-15T12:32:12Z")
Am I really the only one who likes my favorite team (Penn State, so Big Ten), but doesn’t give a damn about the rest of the conference (filled with teams I hate), or how it stacks up against other conferences? ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahhaah-ohio-st/463526/44 "2008-09-15T13:32:47Z")
> [@dgrdfd](#): > > Getting blown out again. This really has to hurt their confidence. Losing back to back title games in blowouts to SEC teams and then getting exposed by USC tonight 35 - 3 as of the time of me writing this. > > I am kind of surprised though. They looked good against Southeast Youngstown State Technological Polytechnic Institute State University. LMAO. > > At least we can remove them from the National Championship picture. :D:D > > ETA::D:D Funny, people said that about them last year when they lost to IL. and yet… there they were and ended the year ranked #2. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahhaah-ohio-st/463526/45 "2008-09-15T14:01:53Z")
This is without doubt the greatest collection of stupid I’ve ever seen in any SDMB thread. Mostly from **Spartydog**. For a moment or two I thought I was reading YouTube user comments. Look, the SEC is just really, really good. There are swings and roundabouts, though. SEC schools hire people like Bobby Petrino and Nick Saban, who will end up fucking over Arkansas and Alabama just as surely as they fucked over Miami and Atlanta. They turn out more than their share of thugs- though not as many as West Virginia. Their fans are annoying as fuck. What’s really impressive is that the SEC turns out so many good teams despite the fact that they have to share their recruiting hotbeds- Florida, Georgia, the Carolinas and so on- with the ACC and Big East. The Big Twelve, PAC-10 and Big Ten don’t have to share their recruits with any other BCS conferences. ---
**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahhaah-ohio-st/463526/46 "2008-09-15T14:35:51Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > I don’t like the Buckeyes and I live in Ohio, so I have to hear about them all the time. > > The really annoying thing is that I hear about them when they win and I hear about them just as much when they lose. If everyone who hated them would just shut up about them, there’d be blessed silence. If only. Thank you. Thank you, thank you. This state is just lousy with [del]fuck[/del]buckheads who couldn’t find Columbus on a bet, who’ve never been to a game, who have never set foot on the OSU campus, but who wear their scarlet and gray jerseys like they’re chain mail. You can’t even name a player! SHUT UP! ---
**Author:** ![5-HT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/f19dbf/32.png) [@5-HT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5-HT)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahhaah-ohio-st/463526/47 "2008-09-15T16:18:34Z")
OSU has plenty of recent experience with being a loser. Just because you wait until the last game of the year to embarrass yourself in front of a nationwide audience, that doesn’t make it any less of a loss. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahhaah-ohio-st/463526/48 "2008-09-15T17:50:19Z")
> [@neutron\_star](#): > > Am I really the only one who likes my favorite team (Penn State, so Big Ten), but doesn’t give a damn about the rest of the conference (filled with teams I hate), or how it stacks up against other conferences? I’m with you here. I root for Penn State because I hate the Big Ten. They’re looking like they’re on track for not choking and dying until maybe the fifth week this season, at least. ---
**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahhaah-ohio-st/463526/49 "2008-09-15T17:58:43Z")
> [@Euthanasiast](#): > > Would you be willing to allow for the possibility that perhaps the SEC is consistently, overall, the best conference in the nation, given the historical perspective? Considering that, at this moment, The SEC has _ **five** _ teams in the AP’s top ten? If you mean “the last 5 years” by consistently, then yeah, sure the SEC has been consistently the best conference in the nation. The truth of the matter is that it swings around from conference to conference. The Big 12 was the best for a while, and the Big 10 has had several years as the best conference in the last 15 years. The SECs dominance is only recent, and relatively short lived so far. ---
**Author:** ![Cyberhwk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7993a0/32.png) [@Cyberhwk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyberhwk)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahhaah-ohio-st/463526/50 "2008-09-16T07:15:10Z")
> [@Euthanasiast](#): > > Considering that, at this moment, The SEC has _ **five** _ teams in the AP’s top ten? **USC wins against teams in the Top 25:** 1 **Combined wins of #3 Georgia + #4 Florida + #5 Missouri + #6 LSU + #9 Alabama + #10 Auburn vs. Top 25:** 2 😉 ---
**Author:** ![T\_SQUARE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de053/32.png) [@T\_SQUARE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/T_SQUARE)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahhaah-ohio-st/463526/51 "2008-09-16T07:39:14Z")
Look, I like college football, but I don’t really care who wins the title. I did not go to an SEC school, and I have never lived in SEC country. But…it’s impossible for a rational person to deny that the SEC is the best conference this year. The following is a list of schools outside the SEC that have a realistic chance of winning the title: 1. USC 2. Oklahoma The SEC has 3 schools that could do it. I don’t know why it’s “getting old” the SEC is really good this season. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahhaah-ohio-st/463526/52 "2008-09-16T08:08:44Z")
> [@T\_SQUARE](#): > > Look, I like college football, but I don’t really care who wins the title. I did not go to an SEC school, and I have never lived in SEC country. > > But…it’s impossible for a rational person to deny that the SEC is the best conference this year. The following is a list of schools outside the SEC that have a realistic chance of winning the title: > > 1. USC > 2. Oklahoma > > The SEC has 3 schools that could do it. > > I don’t know why it’s “getting old” the SEC is really good this season. Missouri belongs up there with whoever you’re throwing in with Georgia and Florida, and given that the SEC will self shred the chance of themselves, I’ll throw in UT too. Whoever comes out of the Big XII south has a damn good shot at it. (Anyways, OU is gonna get their ass kicked during the last week of the regular season :D) ---
**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 9:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahhaah-ohio-st/463526/53 "2008-09-16T09:15:17Z")
> [@T\_SQUARE](#): > > Look, I like college football, but I don’t really care who wins the title. I did not go to an SEC school, and I have never lived in SEC country. > > But…it’s impossible for a rational person to deny that the SEC is the best conference this year. The following is a list of schools outside the SEC that have a realistic chance of winning the title: > > 1. USC > 2. Oklahoma > > The SEC has 3 schools that could do it. > > I don’t know why it’s “getting old” the SEC is really good this season. For the six thousandth fucking time, I didn’t say that they weren’t good. I did say that for the past few years, we haven’t had a college football thread that hasn’t devolved into SEC wanking. Jesus fucking broken record Christ. ---
**Author:** ![T\_SQUARE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de053/32.png) [@T\_SQUARE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/T_SQUARE)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahhaah-ohio-st/463526/54 "2008-09-16T09:21:31Z")
> [@neutron\_star](#): > > For the six thousandth fucking time, I didn’t say that they weren’t good. I did say that for the past few years, we haven’t had a college football thread that hasn’t devolved into SEC wanking. Jesus fucking broken record Christ. Well, on the rare occasions when I talk about sports, I like to talk about teams and individuals who are good at said sports. Feel free to go down to your local sports bar and talk about the Kansas City Royals, Algeria’s quest for the World Cup or about how mediocre I am at shooting baskets. ---
**Author:** ![Euthanasiast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Euthanasiast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euthanasiast)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahhaah-ohio-st/463526/55 "2008-09-16T23:26:13Z")
> [@Cyberhwk](#): > > **USC wins against teams in the Top 25:** 1 > **Combined wins of #3 Georgia + #4 Florida + #5 Missouri + #6 LSU + #9 Alabama + #10 Auburn vs. Top 25:** 2 > > 😉 You have to admit that your jab is a lot misleading in that the season is just getting started. Try taking that same little poll at the end of the year. I’d be willing to bet that USC doesn’t play or win against as many top 20 teams as ANY of the SEC teams you mentioned, much less collectively. 😉 indeed. ---
**Author:** ![Euthanasiast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Euthanasiast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euthanasiast)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahhaah-ohio-st/463526/56 "2008-09-16T23:48:02Z")
And at least where Georgia is concerned, I am _way_ right: USC’s current schedule toughness: **2** top 25 teams; **3** at preseason UGA’s current schedule toughness: **4** top 25 teams; **6** at preseason That translates roughly into a schedule at least twice as difficult as USC’s, and this is a consistent, year after year thing. I think you’ll find similar comparisons for USC’s schedule against Florida, LSU, Alabama and Auburn. It’s not that difficult to look like the best in the country, if you rarely play anybody worth a damn. ---
**Author:** ![Carmady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@Carmady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carmady)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahhaah-ohio-st/463526/57 "2008-09-17T00:40:52Z")
> [@Euthanasiast](#): > > It’s not that difficult to look like the best in the country, if you rarely play anybody worth a damn. Last 17 games, Pac 10 vs SEC. Pac 10 leads 11-6. That isn’t just USC owning the SEC (though USC crushes the top SEC teams when they play). Take out USC and LSU, and the Pac 10 still leads. The SEC East champion just lost to a Pac 10 team who just got annihilated by a MWC team. The SEC is the best conference, but there is a lot of parity in college football. If you schedule quality teams OOC (in general, the SEC doesn’t do this) you will pick up losses due to parity. Bragging about number of ranked teams is also silly considering what rankings are based on. ---
**Author:** ![Cyberhwk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7993a0/32.png) [@Cyberhwk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyberhwk)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahhaah-ohio-st/463526/58 "2008-09-17T08:39:54Z")
> [@Euthanasiast](#): > > You have to admit that your jab is a lot misleading in that the season is just getting started. Try taking that same little poll at the end of the year. Hey, you submitted that there are 5 SEC teams in the Top 10. I submitted that was because they haven’t PLAYED anybody yet. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Euthanasiast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Euthanasiast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euthanasiast)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahhaah-ohio-st/463526/59 "2008-09-26T12:25:13Z")
[Good lord, nobody saw that coming.](http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/allthingstrojan/2008/09/usc-oregon-st-2.html) I did. It’s for the best, really. This saves them from really being humiliated by an SEC at the end of the season. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahhaah-ohio-st/463526/60 "2008-09-26T13:18:31Z")
So now Georgia/Florida is the de facto National Championship game. College football is silly, sometimes. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahhaah-ohio-st/463526.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hahhaah-ohio-st/463526.md?page=4)