# Halifax? Toronto? Calgary?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/halifax-toronto-calgary/378912>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [November 3, 2006, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/halifax-toronto-calgary/378912 "2006-11-03T00:20:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2006, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/halifax-toronto-calgary/378912/61 "2006-11-04T06:40:45Z")

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[QUOTE=Kythereia]  
No, no! Get one of [these](http://www.carleton.ca/cares/raisetheroof.html).  
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:eek:

I pulled a knitted cap\* out of the back of my closet this week as the cool weather arrived, and it had that logo on it, and I’ve been wondering what it was. As a potential designer of houses, it was quite appropriate for me.

Thanks!

[sub]\*IMHO, it’s only a toque if it has a pompom (the hangier-down the better).

I _must_ get a nice long Dr Who scarf this year, as my replacement #2 winter coat has no hood. (I still have the #1 coat, Grampa Sokalski’s Parka, the one that makes me look like a giant moose turd. But boy is it warm…)[/sub]

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2006, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/halifax-toronto-calgary/378912/62 "2006-11-04T12:06:46Z")

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[QUOTE=Poysyn]  
A blue and orange DOMO one with a pom-pom on top 🙂  
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OK, I’m willing to learn to spell again, I’m willing to say “in hospital” instead of “in the hospital”, I’m willing to say “eh” (Where y’all goin’, eh?), but I am NOT willing to wear something like that.

Perhaps I should rethink my plan. 😛

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**Author:** ![Lissla\_Lissar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@Lissla\_Lissar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lissla_Lissar)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2006, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/halifax-toronto-calgary/378912/63 "2006-11-04T14:28:56Z")

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Naahhh. When you get up here, and everyone else is wearing them, you’ll want to fit in. It’ll be easy.

[SUB]Except for me. I am NOT wearing a toque. I retain Canadian citizenship by drinking maple syrup.[/SUB]

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2006, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/halifax-toronto-calgary/378912/64 "2006-11-04T19:12:22Z")

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[QUOTE=Lissla Lissar]  
Naahhh. When you get up here, and everyone else is wearing them, you’ll want to fit in. It’ll be easy.

[SUB]Except for me. I am NOT wearing a toque. I retain Canadian citizenship by drinking maple syrup.[/SUB]  
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Well, I’m sure you know what I mean by toque hair. That’s proof that you have worn toques in the past.

“Where y’all goin’, eh?” - cute Americano. We don’t usually put “eh” on the ends of questions - we put it on the end of statements to turn them into questions, usually questions to which we’re pretty sure of the answers. The correct form would be, “You guys are going to stay for a few beers after curling, eh?” It’s somewhat of an art form. 😃

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2006, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/halifax-toronto-calgary/378912/65 "2006-11-04T19:31:31Z")

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[QUOTE=RickJay]  
I believe it’s in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms that all Canadians have the right to have a Tim Horton’s within ten minutes of their house.  
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It strikes me that this sort of thing might be the answer to resolving all the acrimony that comes with “reopening the constitutional debate.”

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**Author:** ![Raygun99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Raygun99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raygun99)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2006, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/halifax-toronto-calgary/378912/66 "2006-11-04T19:35:10Z")

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[QUOTE=featherlou]  
Well, I’m sure you know what I mean by toque hair. That’s proof that you have worn toques in the past.

“Where y’all goin’, eh?” - cute Americano. We don’t usually put “eh” on the ends of questions - we put it on the end of statements to turn them into questions, usually questions to which we’re pretty sure of the answers. The correct form would be, “You guys are going to stay for a few beers after curling, eh?” It’s somewhat of an art form. 😃  
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As The Onion once correctly translated, the Canadian meaning of “eh?” is “what I just said, is it not true?”

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2006, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/halifax-toronto-calgary/378912/67 "2006-11-04T19:58:02Z")

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[QUOTE=Raygun99]  
As The Onion once correctly translated, the Canadian meaning of “eh?” is “what I just said, is it not true?”  
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Basically. “Eh?” in Canadian usage usually means one of two things:

1. As you point out, to turn a statement into an interrogative,

2. To emphasize the significance of a subordinate or modifying clause, such as in “The flight takes five hours, eh, so bring something to read.”

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**Author:** ![Fastidiots](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@Fastidiots](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fastidiots)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2006, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/halifax-toronto-calgary/378912/68 "2006-11-04T20:24:35Z")

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I was born in Australia, raised in the countryside surrounding Calgary, and now live on campus in Calgary, I must add that I’m very fond of it. Don’t let these fools convince you **Frank** , that Calgary’s a heartless and cold machine of a city. The thing that keeps me here are the people… even **featherlou**.

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**Author:** ![Fastidiots](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@Fastidiots](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fastidiots)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2006, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/halifax-toronto-calgary/378912/69 "2006-11-04T20:25:53Z")

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bloody html hangover

_mumble_

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2006, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/halifax-toronto-calgary/378912/70 "2006-11-04T23:23:20Z")

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[QUOTE=tvvat]  
bloody html hangover

_mumble_  
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I have fixed you bolding tags, eh.

I hope that displays better use of the [eh] tag. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2006, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/halifax-toronto-calgary/378912/71 "2006-11-04T23:30:10Z")

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An update of my current feelings:

I’m leaning towards Ottawa. Toronto is my second choice. Halifax is still extremely appealling, but - damn! - it’s so far from anywhere! Calgary is, sorry, out of it. (I’ve been through the untrammelled growth thing here in Denver, and don’t care to go through it again.)

But, as I said earlier, it’s close to a year till I move, so who knows what I’ll wind up deciding. I very much appreciate all your comments and advice, even the Saskatchewananianese’s.

So, how about Thunder Bay? I got drunk there once.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2006, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/halifax-toronto-calgary/378912/72 "2006-11-04T23:50:10Z")

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[QUOTE=Frank]  
So, how about Thunder Bay? I got drunk there once.  
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Smaller than Halifax, worse weather, more isolated.

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**Author:** ![GingerOfTheNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@GingerOfTheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GingerOfTheNorth)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2006, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/halifax-toronto-calgary/378912/73 "2006-11-05T00:08:54Z")

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[QUOTE=Frank]  
I very much appreciate all your comments and advice, even the Saskatchewananianese’s.  
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That featherlou is one of them too, eh?

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**Author:** ![Lissla\_Lissar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@Lissla\_Lissar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lissla_Lissar)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2006, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/halifax-toronto-calgary/378912/74 "2006-11-05T00:17:42Z")

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Ottawa’s pretty. It has Kettleman’s bagels, too, which I sorely miss.

And the Elgin Street Diner. 24 hour poutine. Sigh.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2006, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/halifax-toronto-calgary/378912/75 "2006-11-05T00:44:58Z")

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[QUOTE=tvvat]  
I was born in Australia, raised in the countryside surrounding Calgary, and now live on campus in Calgary, I must add that I’m very fond of it. Don’t let these fools convince you **Frank** , that Calgary’s a heartless and cold machine of a city. The thing that keeps me here are the people… even **featherlou**.  
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Hey, I’m a really nice person. You’d like me if you met me. I’m just tired of Calgary and the increasing levels of crap here.

Am I a naturalized Albertan yet, **Ginger**? I’ve been here almost 16 years! Or is it like in the Maritimes - if you don’t have six generations of ancestors there, you’re from away?

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2006, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/halifax-toronto-calgary/378912/76 "2006-11-05T00:51:43Z")

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[QUOTE=RickJay]  
Smaller than Halifax, worse weather, more isolated.  
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Ah. So getting drunk was good, eh?

I was 15, hitching from Toronto west, just to scope it out. This guy picked me up in Wawa (which originally I was grateful for, as I’d heard horror stories about getting a ride there). He stopped about every half hour to top off his drink, and once in a while gave me a sip. The next day, after we had crashed somewhere along the shore, he had me drive (my first time driving!) so he could top off every ten minutes, but he didn’t give me any. After we pulled into Thunder Bay (his destination), he had me stop at a bar, and got me wasted, gave me a few bucks, and said “Thanks.” So there I was, 15, drunk, and in a strange place. I wandered to a park and slept it off, then spent two nights in a hostel before I was ready to continue my trip.

It would have been memorable if only I could remember it.

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**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2006, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/halifax-toronto-calgary/378912/77 "2006-11-05T01:03:45Z")

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If you want baseball in Canada but don’t want to be in Toronto, I’d say Ottawa is a great choice. Someone earlier posted that Ottawa was losing its AAA baseball team, but a visit to [the team’s website](http://club.minorleaguebaseball.com/app/index.jsp?sid=t501) doesn’t look like it’s moving.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2006, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/halifax-toronto-calgary/378912/78 "2006-11-05T02:01:36Z")

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[QUOTE=Frank]  
An update of my current feelings:

I’m leaning towards Ottawa. Toronto is my second choice.  
[/quote]  
Ottawa, sure. Do they still roll up the sidewalks by 10 p.m.?

As for Toronto, you’ll have to learn to drink a double-half-caf-cinnamon-latte-mochaccino while yakking on your Crackberry with your boss, while simultaneously driving the Evil Death Highway of Doom. Hey, it’s Toronto. You know, the city that wishes it was New York, and in which you can’t get ahead unless you try to be a New Yorker.

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> Calgary is, sorry, out of it. (I’ve been through the untrammelled growth thing here in Denver, and don’t care to go through it again.)

The growth that I see in Calgary isn’t nearly as bad as I experienced when I lived in Toronto. You can drive for miles in southern Ontario and never leave an urban area. Just think: endless roads lined with Tim Hortons, McDonald’s, Shell, Burger King, Tim Hortons, Harvey’s, Esso, Wendy’s, Tim Hortons, Petro-Can, Comfort Inn, Red Lobster…the list, like the busy roads, goes on and on, for miles and miles. And yes, the Tim Hortons really are that prevalent.

In Calgary, I can be out of town–I mean driving through farmland–in half-an-hour, tops. Or in the mountains in an hour.

Something to think about.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2006, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/halifax-toronto-calgary/378912/79 "2006-11-05T02:25:24Z")

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[QUOTE=Spoons]  
Ottawa, sure. Do they still roll up the sidewalks by 10 p.m.?  
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Heh. I’m old enough to remember that _Toronto_ used to be considered a dull city.

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> As for Toronto, you’ll have to learn to drink a double-half-caf-cinnamon-latte-mochaccino while yakking on your Crackberry with your boss, while simultaneously driving the Evil Death Highway of Doom. Hey, it’s Toronto. You know, the city that wishes it was New York, and in which you can’t get ahead unless you try to be a New Yorker.

No, I won’t. I’ll find a job (or find a place to live) within a decent walking/subway/bus commute from where I live (or work), and I’ll find a job that recognises that I have a life, or I won’t move there. It’s that simple, really.

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> In Calgary, I can be out of town–I mean driving through farmland–in half-an-hour, tops. Or in the mountains in an hour.

That’s fine, that’s good, that’s even excellent. I can do that here. But I spend five days a week in town, living, working, and driving. Frankly, Calgary sounds like Denver was a few years ago, and, as I’ve said, I don’t care for it.

I’ll be happy to visit, though! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2006, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/halifax-toronto-calgary/378912/80 "2006-11-05T03:09:37Z")

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[QUOTE=cmkeller]  
If you want baseball in Canada but don’t want to be in Toronto, I’d say Ottawa is a great choice. Someone earlier posted that Ottawa was losing its AAA baseball team, but a visit to [the team’s website](http://club.minorleaguebaseball.com/app/index.jsp?sid=t501) doesn’t look like it’s moving.  
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[The Lynx are moving.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottawa_Lynx) If you want professional baseball in Canada, Toronto’s pretty much your only hope.

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