# Hall takes out restraining order against Oates **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 23, 2023, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hall-takes-out-restraining-order-against-oates/993562 "2023-11-23T00:27:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hall-takes-out-restraining-order-against-oates/993562/1 "2023-11-23T00:27:25Z")
The '80s pop rocker is suing his former bandmate over a contract/debt issue, but the details remain sealed at this time. [https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/22/entertainment/daryl-hall-restraining-order-john-oates/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/22/entertainment/daryl-hall-restraining-order-john-oates/index.html) I guess Oates can no longer make Hall’s dreams come true, so he said “I can’t go for that”, hired some private eyes, and decided to show him what a maneater he can be. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hall-takes-out-restraining-order-against-oates/993562/2 "2023-11-23T00:32:17Z")
At their next concert there’ll be requests for the Sue Me, Sue You Blues. _You serve me And I’ll serve you Swing your partners, all get screwed Bring your lawyer And I’ll bring mine Get together, and we could have a bad time_ ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hall-takes-out-restraining-order-against-oates/993562/3 "2023-11-23T00:37:36Z")
Somebody reneged on their promise to make Sara smile. But a few bucks might do it (no offense, Sara). ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hall-takes-out-restraining-order-against-oates/993562/4 "2023-11-23T00:38:01Z")
Oates’ reply: No, I can’t go for that. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hall-takes-out-restraining-order-against-oates/993562/5 "2023-11-23T00:41:45Z")
Ohhh, man. Say it isn’t so! ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hall-takes-out-restraining-order-against-oates/993562/6 "2023-11-23T00:42:44Z")
Oates’s kiss is not on Hall’s list no more. ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hall-takes-out-restraining-order-against-oates/993562/7 "2023-11-23T00:43:29Z")
So are there any famous musical duets that don’t hate each other? Hall and Oates Simon and Garfunkel Gallagher brothers (Watermelon not Wonderwall, not that Wonderwall Gallagher brothers don’t hate each other but they aren’t a duet) ---
**Author:** ![SwissMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SwissMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SwissMan)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hall-takes-out-restraining-order-against-oates/993562/8 "2023-11-23T00:45:06Z")
Are Kenny Loggins and Jim Messina still on good terms? ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hall-takes-out-restraining-order-against-oates/993562/9 "2023-11-23T00:45:46Z")
> [@griffin1977](#): > > Simon and Garfunkel They’ve gotten together several times since their split in 1970. I’m not sure they actually still hate one another. Edit: After reading a bit more about it, I take it back. I don’t think they liked each other even considering the reunions. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hall-takes-out-restraining-order-against-oates/993562/10 "2023-11-23T00:46:22Z")
The Wilson sisters were on the outs for years because Ann’s husband beat up Nancy’s son backstage at a concert in 2016 (which I was at!), but they reunited last month so I assume they patched things up. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hall-takes-out-restraining-order-against-oates/993562/11 "2023-11-23T00:54:11Z")
> [@griffin1977](#): > > So are there any famous musical duets that don’t hate each other? The Captain and Tenille divorced in 2014, although according to Wikipedia, they “remained close friends until his death.” The Davies brothers (of The Kinks) had a love-hate relationship over the years. As far as I know, nowadays they get along okay but don’t spend much time together. Johns Linnell and Flansburgh of They Might Be Giants have been together since the early 80s, and I haven’t heard of any rancor between them. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hall-takes-out-restraining-order-against-oates/993562/12 "2023-11-23T00:54:34Z")
> [@griffin1977](#): > > So are there any famous musical duets that don’t hate each other? Jack Black and Kyle Gass seem okay. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hall-takes-out-restraining-order-against-oates/993562/13 "2023-11-23T00:55:26Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > They’ve gotten together several times since their split in 1970. I’m not sure they actually still hate one another. Based on numerous interviews I’ve read over the years, I don’t think that they ever _stopped_ hating one another; it’s just that they managed to temporarily bury the hatchet from time to time. As per the [Wikipedia article on the duo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_%26_Garfunkel): > [@](#): > > In 2014, Garfunkel told _Rolling Stone_ that he believed he and Simon would tour again, but said: “I know that audiences all over the world like Simon and Garfunkel. I’m with them. But I don’t think Paul Simon’s with them.”[[119]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_%26_Garfunkel#cite_note-Art2014-119) In a 2015 interview with _[The Daily Telegraph](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daily_Telegraph)_, Garfunkel said: “How can you walk away from this lucky place on top of the world, Paul? What’s going on with you, you idiot? How could you let that go, jerk?”[[125]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_%26_Garfunkel#cite_note-Farndale2015-125) Asked about a reunion in 2016, Simon said: “Quite honestly, we don’t get along. So it’s not like it’s fun. If it was fun, I’d say, OK, sometimes we’ll go out and sing old songs in harmony. That’s cool. But when it’s not fun, you know, and you’re going to be in a tense situation, well, then I have a lot of musical areas that I like to play in. So that’ll never happen again. That’s that.” ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hall-takes-out-restraining-order-against-oates/993562/14 "2023-11-23T00:57:10Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > I’m not sure they actually still hate one another. I’ve always considered them the canonical example of a super talented musical duet that now hates each other (despite occasionally sharing the same stage for financial purposes) That’s just the gist I got from documentaries and such. I weirdly went through a simon and Garfunkel stage as a teenager;) ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hall-takes-out-restraining-order-against-oates/993562/15 "2023-11-23T01:06:21Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > Based on numerous interviews I’ve read over the years, I don’t think that they ever _stopped_ hating one another; it’s just that they managed to temporarily bury the hatchet from time to time. If I were in my 70s, I might not want to tour regardless of how well I liked my partner. But damn, this line was cold. “In 1990, Simon and Garfunkel were inducted into the [Rock and Roll Hall of Fame](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_and_Roll_Hall_of_Fame). Garfunkel thanked Simon, calling him “the person who most enriched my life by putting those songs through me”; Simon responded, ‘Arthur and I agree about almost nothing. But it’s true, I have enriched his life quite a bit.’” ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hall-takes-out-restraining-order-against-oates/993562/16 "2023-11-23T02:08:39Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > The Captain and Tenille divorced in 2014, although according to Wikipedia, they “remained close friends until his death.” According to some sources they were a sham relationship from pretty early on, and kept it up for the money. After they divorced it was still “we’re friends” but only all about the money, not about any reality. I can’t vouch for the version I’m citing versus the version in wiki. But at their level, telling stories for money has got to be real tempting. ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Sudan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chad_sudan/32/4509_2.png) [@Chad\_Sudan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chad_Sudan)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hall-takes-out-restraining-order-against-oates/993562/17 "2023-11-23T10:16:57Z")
Devastating! Fortunately, we’ll always have [Garfunkel and Oates](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garfunkel_and_Oates). ---
**Author:** ![Author\_Balk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Author\_Balk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Author_Balk)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hall-takes-out-restraining-order-against-oates/993562/18 "2023-11-23T17:28:07Z")
> [@griffin1977](#): > > So are there any famous musical duets that don’t hate each other? I think the Carpenters got along. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hall-takes-out-restraining-order-against-oates/993562/19 "2023-11-23T17:31:50Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > According to some sources they were a sham relationship from pretty early on, and kept it up for the money. After they divorced it was still “we’re friends” but only all about the money, not about any reality. I think the divorce was kind of a sham as well. The Captain was very ill and the divorce was a way to protect their assets. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hall-takes-out-restraining-order-against-oates/993562/20 "2023-11-23T17:33:13Z")
> [@Chad\_Sudan](#): > > Devastating! Fortunately, we’ll always have [Garfunkel and Oates](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garfunkel_and_Oates). Kate Micucci has been releasing some solo songs lately and they’re petty bad. I don’t know if they’re split up or just doing their own thing for a while. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hall-takes-out-restraining-order-against-oates/993562.md?page=2)