# Hamas attacks Israel, October 2023 **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** breaking-news, israel-hamas-war\ **Created:** [October 7, 2023, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234 "2023-10-07T10:17:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/316 "2023-10-11T04:29:58Z")
The Israeli death toll from the Hamas attack is now at 1,200. Number of hostages taken to Gaza estimated at 150. > **[Death toll from Hamas onslaught passes 1,200; IDF kills terrorists in...](https://www.timesofisrael.com/death-toll-from-hamas-onslaught-passes-1000-idf-kills-terrorists-in-southern-israel/)** > > IAF launches mass airstrikes in Gaza City, hitting 70 Hamas targets; troops take out 4 gunmen near Gaza-area community, Erez Crossing ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/317 "2023-10-11T11:15:54Z")
2 posts were merged into an existing topic: [Discussion thread for the Hamas Attacks Israel thread, October 2023](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-hamas-attacks-israel-thread-october-2023/991317/74) ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/319 "2023-10-11T10:44:46Z")
Watching CNN right now (0443 MDT, Wednesday), live from Israel. Erin Burnett live on the ground. Scary stuff. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/320 "2023-10-11T10:54:32Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Inbar Lieberman and her neighbors were able to defend their homes. What a great story! Thank you. This picture made me teary-eyed: [![](https://nybr.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Israeli-woman-Inbar-Lieberman-25-is-hailed-a-hero-for.jpeg) ](https://nybr.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Israeli-woman-Inbar-Lieberman-25-is-hailed-a-hero-for.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/321 "2023-10-11T11:47:33Z")
This is good to see. > **[Biden urges Israeli leader to minimize civilian casualties in war with Hamas](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/biden-urges-israeli-leader-minimize-civilian-casualties-war-hamas-rcna119826)** > > The U.S. wants to create a corridor through which innocent Palestinians and Americans living in Gaza can escape the war zone through Egypt. Also notable that he’s urging Israel to minimise casualties, which implies US acceptance of a war on Hamas. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/322 "2023-10-11T14:49:25Z")
Breaking news that Netanyahu and Gantz have agreed to form a unity government for the duration of the conflict: [https://www.axios.com/2023/10/11/hamas-israel-war-gantz-netanyahu-unity-government](https://www.axios.com/2023/10/11/hamas-israel-war-gantz-netanyahu-unity-government) ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/323 "2023-10-11T15:07:21Z")
About time. Should not have taken this long. Hopefully Lapid joins as well. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/324 "2023-10-11T16:56:42Z")
A post was merged into an existing topic: [Discussion thread for the Hamas Attacks Israel thread, October 2023](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-hamas-attacks-israel-thread-october-2023/991317/76) ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/325 "2023-10-11T18:34:19Z")
House members were in a classified-only meeting this morning and left “[clearly shaken](https://twitter.com/heatherscope/status/1712110772141060331?s=20)”, per Punchbowl News. From a [tweet](https://twitter.com/MaeveSheehey/status/1712110009088082114?s=20) by a Hill reporter: > GOP Rep. Max Miller on the classified briefing about Israel this morning: Miller won’t divulge info shared in room on Israel because it’s classified but - “I learned something very, very new within that room that has changed the scope and how I see this developing situation.” ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/326 "2023-10-11T18:38:02Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > House members were in a classified-only meeting this morning and left “[clearly shaken](https://twitter.com/heatherscope/status/1712110772141060331?s=20)”, per Punchbowl News. That’s… ominous. Could Hamas have gotten its hands on a nuke? What else could it be? Just genuinely horrific non-public photos of atrocities? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/327 "2023-10-11T18:51:22Z")
I don’t see how Hamas could use a nuclear weapon against Israel without killing many of their coreligionists. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/328 "2023-10-11T18:53:08Z")
Rep Derrick Van Orden was belligerent during a White House security briefing today and accused the WH of not mentioning “[US hostages](https://twitter.com/maxpcohen/status/1712149621114315063)” so potentially related to that. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/329 "2023-10-11T18:58:56Z")
Never mind - probably belongs in discussion thread. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/330 "2023-10-11T19:26:51Z")
Known hostages. > **[Hamas hostages: Who are the people taken from Israel?](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67053011)** > > From elderly grandparents to young children, these are the people known to have been taken captive. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/331 "2023-10-11T19:39:05Z")
The US State Department according to CNN says there are seventeen Americans held. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/332 "2023-10-11T21:24:16Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > House members were in a classified-only meeting this morning and left “[clearly shaken](https://twitter.com/heatherscope/status/1712110772141060331?s=20)”, per Punchbowl News. > > From a [tweet](https://twitter.com/MaeveSheehey/status/1712110009088082114?s=20) by a Hill reporter: > > > GOP Rep. Max Miller on the classified briefing about Israel this morning: Miller won’t divulge info shared in room on Israel because it’s classified but - “I learned something very, very new within that room that has changed the scope and how I see this developing situation.” > [@MaxTheVool](#): > > That’s… ominous. Could Hamas have gotten its hands on a nuke? What else could it be? Just genuinely horrific non-public photos of atrocities? Meh. Doesn’t have to be a _nuke_… could be chemical or biological, too. Or something to make a dirty bomb? Or something else I can’t think of at the moment since I wasn’t at that meeting. > [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I don’t see how Hamas could use a nuclear weapon against Israel without killing many of their coreligionists. I’m not sure Hamas cares. ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/333 "2023-10-11T21:28:36Z")
I didn’t know there were that many Thai people living in Israel. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/334 "2023-10-11T21:34:15Z")
Lots of Thai and Filipino workers come to Israel to do agricultural work, take care of the elderly, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/335 "2023-10-11T22:06:08Z")
Although Iran is almost certainly funding and supplying Hamas, there is doubt about whether they had any hand in the planning or execution of the recent attack. > **[U.S. intelligence indicates Iranian officials surprised by Hamas attack on...](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/iran-israel-iranian-officials-surprised-by-hamas-attack-israel/#lnmaqwt541bb2tzyckk)** > > The intelligence preliminarily suggests that Tehran was not directly involved in the launch of Hamas' assault on Oct. 7. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/336 "2023-10-11T22:15:24Z")
Just throwing this out there. Dead babies with their heads cut off and raped women seem to be bs. [https://www.tiktok.com](https://www.tiktok.com) /t/ZPR79gBok/ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234.md?page=17)