# Hamas attacks Israel, October 2023 **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** breaking-news, israel-hamas-war\ **Created:** [October 7, 2023, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234 "2023-10-07T10:17:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/337 "2023-10-11T22:17:50Z")
> [@Grrr](#): > > raped women seem to be bs. I am… skeptical. Just based on humanity’s track record. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/338 "2023-10-11T22:19:10Z")
Well the Israeli government has said there is no evidence as such. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/339 "2023-10-11T22:30:54Z")
> [@Grrr](#): > > Well the Israeli government has said there is no evidence as such Do you have a cite for this claim? The TikTok you posted did not provide evidence for the claim that this story wasn’t true and certainly did not say that the Israeli government said that there was no evidence. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/340 "2023-10-11T22:34:49Z")
I’ll try, my TikTok has just started blowing up with multiple videos of this. I just saw the headline on one of the videos but do not remember the source. In any case, I’m sure it will hit the MSM in a couple of days or so. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/341 "2023-10-11T22:37:17Z")
Hold up. I just finished the tiktok in full. It denies the rapes which definitely did occur as well as the 250 dead at the desert festival. This tik tok os spme EXTREME misinformation. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/342 "2023-10-11T22:37:49Z")
I reported the post. That’s disgusting. The massacare at the festival 100 percent occurred. What the actual fuck? ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/343 "2023-10-11T22:38:21Z")
> **[At least 260 dead in Israel Supernova festival massacre](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/10/09/israel-desert-festival-massacre-hamas/)** > > Death toll expected to rise as parents desperately await news of missing children ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/344 "2023-10-11T22:41:16Z")
It’s all over Google too. [https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/despite-refutations-from-israeli-military-headlines-that-hamas-beheaded-babies-persist/3016167](https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/despite-refutations-from-israeli-military-headlines-that-hamas-beheaded-babies-persist/3016167) ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/345 "2023-10-11T22:42:03Z")
> [@Grrr](#): > > It’s all over Google too Did you watch the entire video you linked? It literally denies the massacare at the desert festival. That’s quite literal Hamas apologist propaganda. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/346 "2023-10-11T22:42:57Z")
Have you seen the dead bodies? ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/347 "2023-10-11T22:48:58Z")
Are you saying that the music festival attack didn’t happen? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/348 "2023-10-11T22:50:22Z")
(Nevermind. It’s not worth getting banned over.) ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/349 "2023-10-11T22:50:49Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Nevermind. It’s not worth getting banned over. This is where I’m at now, too. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/350 "2023-10-11T22:53:02Z")
I saw some coverage somewhere today, CBS I think, there were 3 journalists who each reported on a particular area. The first one was at the festival and there were dead bodies on the ground in the coverage. The second reporter talked about the decapitated babies and children and the 3rd was a story about a family who requested 10 people to come to the funeral of their daughter in order to satisfy a rule or law of some sort, but thousands upon thousands showed up. There is the video of the woman with the very bloody pants being drug by her hair into a vehicle. It’s possible she was sexually assaulted and or raped. From the look of her pants, it had to be very violent. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/351 "2023-10-11T22:59:54Z")
Moderating: > [@Grrr](#): > > Have you seen the dead bodies? Posting a fake video is a mistake. Arguing for it after that’s been pointed out, and aggressively challenging other posters is not. I’m banning you from this thread. Don’t post in it again. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/352 "2023-10-11T23:06:30Z")
For the record, I know two people (that I know of) who have lost friends at the festival, and several more people who have lost friends and family members in other attacks on civilians on Saturday - and I’m not a very social person. It’s a small country. Unless someone thinks I’m a liar. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/353 "2023-10-11T23:07:50Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > a family who requested 10 people to come to the funeral of their daughter in order to satisfy a rule or law of some sort A minyan. Some types of prayer service require a minyan – ten adult Jewish men; some congregations also count women, and under some circumstances a child can be counted. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/354 "2023-10-11T23:08:46Z")
To add to your correct answer, “men” in this context is at least 13 years old. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/355 "2023-10-11T23:18:35Z")
> [@Grrr](#): > > It’s all over Google too. > > [[https://www.aa.com.tr/](https://www.aa.com.tr/) Broken link by me. That’s not google. That is a repost of a disinformation article, published in Anadolu Agency, a Turkish news source rated as far right and noted that it publishes misleading reports, and omits information that may damage conservative causes. Disgusting to even try that shit here. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/356 "2023-10-11T23:21:40Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Disgusting to even try that shit here. Sir, you are far too polite. Canadian, I gather? 🍻 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234.md?page=18)