# Hamas attacks Israel, October 2023 **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** breaking-news, israel-hamas-war\ **Created:** [October 7, 2023, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234 "2023-10-07T10:17:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 29
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/613 "2024-09-18T01:37:45Z")
And in a moment of understanding and peace, a U.S. Senator publicly tells a leading Arab-American activist to hide her head in a bag, and called her a liar about supporting Hamas: [GOP senator tells Arab American witness at hate crimes hearing to 'hide your head in a bag'](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/gop-senator-repeatedly-suggests-arab-american-witness-supports-hamas-h-rcna171565) ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/616 "2024-09-18T01:43:07Z")
It should be illegal for people named Kennedy to run as Republicans. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/617 "2024-09-18T02:25:54Z")
Well we sure as hell don’t want that Kennedy running as a Democrat! – has he gone deaf? She kept saying “no” and he kept saying “you can’t say no.” ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/624 "2024-09-18T15:18:24Z")
**As this is about Hezbollah and not Hamas, I’ll move these posts to the exploding Pager thread.** ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/625 "2024-09-18T15:18:31Z")
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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/626 "2024-09-18T15:24:57Z")
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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/627 "2024-10-17T04:58:40Z")
Very good documentary just released on PBS by Frontline about the war: > **[A Year of War: Israelis and Palestinians | FRONTLINE](https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/documentary/a-year-of-war-israelis-and-palestinians/)** > > Watch FRONTLINE's documentary "A Year of War: Israelis and Palestinians," which gathers harrowing accounts from those who experienced the Oct. 7 Hamas attack and the ongoing war in Gaza. Interviews with citizens in Gaza and bordering areas in Israel about the violence they have been going thru over the last year. A tough watch, but important, IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/628 "2024-10-17T13:57:33Z")
Still unconfirmed, but more and more reports that Sinwar was killed in a strike this morning. > Thoughts and prayers 🙏 (that it’s actually him, of course). ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/629 "2024-10-17T16:05:32Z")
Confirmed: Sinwar is dead! ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/630 "2024-10-17T16:07:48Z")
Sinwar being dead is very good news. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/631 "2024-10-17T17:02:00Z")
Indeed. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/632 "2024-10-17T18:51:28Z")
> Internet translation from Hebrew: "Things a competent Israeli government would do now, assuming Sinwar was indeed assassinated: Publicly offers amnesty to anyone who turns himself in along with abductees. Offers cash rewards to anyone who provides immediate information, which turns out to be reliable, about the whereabouts of abductees. Announces that it is ready for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza, and for the rapid realization of US demands in the letter of the defense and foreign ministers. Announces that it is interested in entering immediate negotiations on the establishment of an alternative Hamas regime in Gaza. All this is done in order to take advantage of the chaos in the ranks of Hamas, to leverage the elimination vis-à-vis the population of Gaza, and to create the conditions for the release of as many abductees as possible, an end to the war and the establishment of an effective non-Hamas regime. It will also be possible – perhaps – to sever the connection between the Gaza arena and the Lebanese and Iranian arenas. Things the incompetent government will do: Celebrate the assassination and attribute it to “military pressure,” which has actually been greatly reduced. Try to intensify the fighting in Gaza, even at the expense of the lives of the abductees. It will continue its efforts to prolong and expand the war in all arenas, with an emphasis on attacking Iran and dragging the United States into war." ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/633 "2024-10-17T19:03:53Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > create the conditions for the release of as many abductees as possible, an end to the war and the establishment of an effective non-Hamas regime. I would think the release or recovery of the bodies of all the hostages before an end to the war. ---
**Author:** ![chappachula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@chappachula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappachula)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/634 "2024-10-17T19:24:33Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Things a competent Israeli government would do now: > > Publicly offers amnesty to anyone who turns himself in along with abductees. Netanyahu just announced: " Anyone who lays down his weapons and releases hostages will be spared." [https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-october-17-2024/](https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-october-17-2024/) ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/635 "2024-10-17T19:28:21Z")
> [@chappachula](#): > > Netanyahu just announced: " Anyone who lays down his weapons and releases hostages will be spared." But that’s impossible! I thought Netanyahu wanted to kill all the Palestinian children! Why would he offer such a thing? Next you’ll tell me he has been open to a ceasefire this whole time, too! ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/636 "2024-10-17T19:46:05Z")
Great news! ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/637 "2024-10-17T21:05:05Z")
I figured that going after hamas leadership was how Israel was going to _start_ their response. I award Netanyahu a Better Late Than Never ribbon. ---
**Author:** ![Dropo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce7236/32.png) [@Dropo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dropo)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/638 "2024-10-17T21:24:37Z")
Re: Sinwar It’s now seems clear that the real goal of Hamas’ 10/7 strategy was to replace their own leadership. Those incompetent dumbasses make Arafat look like a fucking genius. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/639 "2024-10-17T22:17:24Z")
> [@chappachula](#): > > Netanyahu just announced: " Anyone who lays down his weapons and releases hostages will be spared." I thought of Hamas guys killing each other over who got to surrender hostages, then I thought of them packing themselves and hostages with explosives to get close to IDF soldiers and kill everyone ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/640 "2024-10-18T02:48:29Z")
Hilarious video of Sinwar sitting in a chair in a bombed room, glaring at an Israeli drone and throwing a stick at it. (The video isn’t graphic.) > **[IDF video appears to show final moments of Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar,...](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/18/yahya-sinwar-hamas-leader-death-idf-footage-stick-drone-gaza)** > > Israeli military presents drone footage from Gaza it says shows Sinwar sitting in a chair alone in a room wrecked by shelling with a severely wounded arm [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234.md?page=28) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234.md?page=30)