# Hamas attacks Israel, October 2023 **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** breaking-news, israel-hamas-war\ **Created:** [October 7, 2023, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234 "2023-10-07T10:17:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 425
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2023, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234/425 "2023-10-14T07:49:49Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > I guess _technically_ that’s giving notice. A million people in 24 hours. I understand Israel’s need to destroy Hamas, but I’m also seeing why Biden csutioned them follow the rules. A million people, most of whom will have to move on foot due to lack of fuel, through rubble-filled streets and around collapsed buildings. Who will also need to take food and water with them or have none when they arrive wherever they’re going. While bombs are falling from overhead. Some, many, will make an attempt - see pictures below. Also, keep in mind that with no power Gaza is _dark_ at night in a way we’re no longer accustomed to (not) see. People are only going to make progress in moving in daylight, and there’s only about 12 hours of that a day right now. No, not possible. Also, people already in the south of Gaza are reporting they’re getting bombed, too, so… yeah, big improvement there. That’s leaving aside the sealed borders and Hamas telling people to stay put. “Ugly” doesn’t cover what’s about to happen. > [@puzzlegal](#): > > Also, isn’t the median age in Gaza something like 18? A lot literally have no choice, as they are children. Yep, half of Gaza is under 18. The news last night was showing truck loads of kids being moved south but I only see a few adults other than drivers. I wonder if some Gazans are opting to move their kids in hopes they’ll survive? [![](https://i.dawn.com/primary/2023/10/1318061751e473e.jpg) ](https://i.dawn.com/primary/2023/10/1318061751e473e.jpg) [![](https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/e890141019996b1f586c882b38814d6aaeaaecbd/0_332_7901_4740/master/7901.jpg?width=465&dpr=1&s=none) ](https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/e890141019996b1f586c882b38814d6aaeaaecbd/0_332_7901_4740/master/7901.jpg?width=465&dpr=1&s=none) Clearly people are using every form of transport they can find. This is 21st Century war: people riding a donkey cart with one of them talking on a cell phone: [![](https://cst.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/132f9d9/2147483647/strip/true/crop/4460x2973+0+0/resize/840x560!/format/webp/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.vox-cdn.com%2Fthumbor%2FntbUzPBXEJh-5UbTntS_lQsO0Lk%3D%2F0x0%3A4460x3046%2F4460x3046%2Ffilters%3Afocal%281815x1342%3A1816x1343%29%2Fcdn.vox-cdn.com%2Fuploads%2Fchorus_asset%2Ffile%2F25000803%2FAFP_33Y64D9.jpg) ](https://cst.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/132f9d9/2147483647/strip/true/crop/4460x2973+0+0/resize/840x560!/format/webp/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.vox-cdn.com%2Fthumbor%2FntbUzPBXEJh-5UbTntS_lQsO0Lk%3D%2F0x0%3A4460x3046%2F4460x3046%2Ffilters%3Afocal%281815x1342%3A1816x1343%29%2Fcdn.vox-cdn.com%2Fuploads%2Fchorus_asset%2Ffile%2F25000803%2FAFP_33Y64D9.jpg) Including on foot [![](https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/rockcms/2023-10/231013-gaza-israel-mb-0733-10fd83.jpg) ](https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/rockcms/2023-10/231013-gaza-israel-mb-0733-10fd83.jpg) > [@Al128](#): > > that phrase makes it sound like whatever happened was completely out of their decision space … Lets not forget that the Hamas was elected in Gaza as government … > > People could have pushed for a more moderate course of action …over the past 2 decades There have not, however, been any elections in the ensuing years. Hamas has a history of either expelling or outright killing any whiff of opposition. And for damn sure Hamas never tolerated civilians being armed. Yes, Hamas was a elected but they are not a democracy. If Gazans had wanted a change they were never allowed it. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamas-attacks-israel-october-2023/991234)._