Reuters has an article with maps and photos showing howe the attack began, and the initial Israeli response
Hamas launched a lot of missiles (2500 per Israel, 3000 per Hamas) and broke though the barriers as that was happening – the missiles were, in part, cover for the ground operation.
Sorry. A hijack that belongs in another thread.
biden and the press briefing are saying 14 us citizens dead, 20ish unaccounted.
My understanding is that Hamas doesn’t recognize Israel’s right to exist, therefore there are no citizens or civilians, only soldiers. I guess that includes the grandmother who was killed in her home and had the graphic details posted to her own Facebook account for her family to see.
Heroes are absolutely amazing. I watched NBC nightly news and they were on scene as dozens of bodies were pulled out of houses in a kibbutz.
Inbar Lieberman and her neighbors were able to defend their homes.
close the right preview pane before pasting the link …
Israel doesn’t need the finest intelligence system in the world. It needs a descent one to be part of a larger, overlapping system that includes a rapid response team. It’s a small country. They should be able to launch weapons at breaches in their border and follow that by troops backed up by layers of ground support.
Thank you for the link. Having known people who lived in kibbutzim, I knew they had armories. It is good to know some were able to mount a defence.
Careful now, a moderator asked me not to post about that.
The horrors of that first day are still being uncovered.
Reporting of 40 dead children under 2, many beheaded.
There aren’t even words…
Oh. I thought that note was for me.
I had asked the same question.
I think it’s pertinent to know who may have been able to fight back. And with what weapons.
My opinion.
What do you mean?
Carni can answer. But I thought because gun questions or thoughts were not breaking news it was not allowed in this thread.
Mod note up around 256
Huh? It was a news story about a heroic Israeli who mobilized and saved her village.
Yeh, but guns.
I don’t get it really either.
I have no idea what you’re talking about.
Moderating:
“This is how they did/didn’t defend themselves” is breaking news. Details are breaking news.
An expression of surprise that concert-goers were unarmed in a nation in which most every young adult serves in the armed forces isn’t breaking news, but it’s the kind of short commentary that always comes up in breaking news threads.
Meandering off into details of Israeli gun laws is a hijack.
Complaining about moderation is a hijack, and really doesn’t belong in this thread. There’s an ATMB thread for that.
This post
Is not appropriate for this thread.
I wasn’t complaining. Just confused. Sorry. Won’t happen again
I’m thinking how easy the job of an Israel fighter pilot must be (in the context of this war only), compared to most other nation’s. Gaza and the West Bank having no meaningful air defense, the distance that the pilot has to fly to drop bombs and go back to base is extremely short. Just take off, bomb, land, repeat.
Of course, having to go deep into Syria or Iran is a whole other story.
The field intelligence battalion (which, if I am not mistaken, also controls things like remote-control guns along the Gaza Wall) was overrun.