# Hamilton - The Musical

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamilton-the-musical/736119>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** music\
**Created:** [October 29, 2015, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamilton-the-musical/736119 "2015-10-29T20:00:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamilton-the-musical/736119/121 "2016-05-13T05:07:30Z")

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> [@Made\_in\_Macau](#):
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> (As a Brit, the guy playing George III’s accent is astonishingly bad. Dick Van Dyke bad)

Jonathan Groff is the actor who provided the voice of Kristoff in Disney’s _Frozen_, btw.

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> My favourite performance amongst many fine singers is the singer who plays Mrs Reynolds.

And Peggy!

(Seriously, it’s good that she got more than just Peggy Schuyler.

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**Author:** ![Made\_in\_Macau](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eada6e/32.png) [@Made\_in\_Macau](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Made_in_Macau)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamilton-the-musical/736119/122 "2016-05-13T07:58:16Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Jonathan Groff is the actor who provided the voice of Kristoff in Disney’s _Frozen_, btw.  
> And Peggy!
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> (Seriously, it’s good that she got more than just Peggy Schuyler.

I haven’t seen Frozen. In the stage show, I’m guessing Peggy is played for laughs?

MiM

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**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamilton-the-musical/736119/123 "2016-05-13T08:02:01Z")

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> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#):
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> There was a brief window of time tonight (less than an hour!) when a few face value tickets for November & December just went on sale through Ticketmaster and I managed to pick one up before they all sold out again! Woohoo! I’ll actually be seeing the show!

Wow!! Congratulations!

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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamilton-the-musical/736119/124 "2016-05-13T19:21:34Z")

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> [@Made\_in\_Macau](#):
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> I haven’t seen Frozen. In the stage show, I’m guessing Peggy is played for laughs?
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> MiM

No. Elizabeth Schuyler Hamilton & Angelica Schuyler Church appear in both acts of the play. Peggy only appears in the first half–Margarita “Peggy” Schuyler Van Rensselear died rather young.

But the same actress shows up in Act 2 as the notorious Mrs Reynolds.

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**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamilton-the-musical/736119/125 "2016-05-13T23:13:40Z")

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> [@shantih](#):
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> Wow!! Congratulations!

Thanks! Apparently in an effort to curb all the [del]scalping[/del] reselling going on, Ticketmaster cancelled a bunch of large multi-ticket purchases for November & December, which is where those surprise tickets came from on Wednesday!

[http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/14/theater/hamilton-takes-steps-to-limit-the-resale-of-its-tickets.html](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/14/theater/hamilton-takes-steps-to-limit-the-resale-of-its-tickets.html)

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**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2016, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamilton-the-musical/736119/126 "2016-05-31T22:28:45Z")

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Two things: first is this super-cool timeline of Alexander Hamilton’s life featuring annotations to the lyrics and songs from the cast album, which is presently consuming 93% of my time: [Home | Atlantic Records](http://atlanticrecords.com/hamiltontimeline/)

And the other is a funny bit that I came across somewhere online. This is a paraphrase but as close as I can remember it:

EVERYTHING: is all right  
HAMILTON: quotes ‘Macbeth’  
EVERYTHING: goes to hell

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**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2016, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamilton-the-musical/736119/127 "2016-05-31T22:46:46Z")

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I’ve only seen the clips on YouTube and a few gifs, but they blow me away even more. Especially in the closing number as Eliza sings

My love, I can’t wait to see you again. Hamilton crosses behind her with a wistful look, and she turns and just misses him disappear into the darkness.

Apparently a few of the primary performers, [including Miranda](http://www.broadway.com/buzz/185020/its-official-emily-blunt-lin-manuel-miranda-to-lead-mary-poppins-returns/), are leaving in July when their contracts are up.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamilton-the-musical/736119/128 "2016-06-03T11:53:59Z")

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On the 9th, so **Maggie** caught one of what will be an even hotter (if that were possible) ticket!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamilton-the-musical/736119/129 "2016-06-06T12:57:55Z")

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More on the cast changes, and soaring ticket prices. The last paragraph made me smile: ['Hamilton' tickets as high as $10,000 on report Lin-Manuel Miranda is leaving](http://money.cnn.com/2016/06/03/media/hamilton-tickets-lin-manuel-miranda/index.html)

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**Author:** ![Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maggie_the_Ocelot)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamilton-the-musical/736119/130 "2016-06-06T14:24:44Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> On the 9th, so **Maggie** caught one of what will be an even hotter (if that were possible) ticket!

Apparently resale value on the tix I got is at about $4k each 😮

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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamilton-the-musical/736119/131 "2016-06-13T04:25:47Z")

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_Hamilton_ only won 11 Tonys tonight. Cynthia Erivo won Best Actress in a Musical for _The Color Purple_–probably a more impressive part than the quiet strength of Phillipa Soo’s Eliza. _She Loves Me_ won for Scenic Design–the Art Nouveau shop in Old Budapest was quite charming. (Zachary Levi’s in the play? I watched for _Hamilton_ but saw bits of other plays I’d love to see.) Otherwise, _Hamilton_ won everything.

Three actors from the show were up for Featured Actor in a Musical; Daveed Diggs won. And Leslie Odom Jr won Best Actor in a Musical over LMM. The _Hamilton_ cast did the opening number & a closing number. Plus the Yorktown number from the show–without muskets, as as sign of respect for what happened in Orlando.

LMM’s “speech” for winning Best Score was [a sonnet](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/13/theater/lin-manuel-mirandas-sonnet-from-the-tony-awards.html?_r=0).

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> [@](#):
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> My wife’s the reason anything gets done  
> She nudges me towards promise by degrees  
> She is a perfect symphony of one  
> Our son is her most beautiful reprise.  
> We chase the melodies that seem to find us  
> Until they’re finished songs and start to play  
> When senseless acts of tragedy remind us  
> That nothing here is promised, not one day.
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> This show is proof that history remembers  
> We lived through times when hate and fear seemed stronger;  
> We rise and fall and light from dying embers, remembrances that hope and love last longer  
> And love is love is love is love is love is love is love is love cannot be killed or swept aside.  
> I sing Vanessa’s symphony, Eliza tells her story  
> Now fill the world with music, love and pride.

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**Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamilton-the-musical/736119/132 "2016-06-13T12:43:13Z")

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That had my wife in tears. Thanks Lin, making the rest of us guys look like uncultured, hard-hearted loser 😉

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamilton-the-musical/736119/133 "2016-06-13T13:09:13Z")

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Loved his speech.

I got an e-mail at around 10:45 that at 11:15 pm a new block of tickets were opening up last night. At 11:17 I learned the first date I picked in February 2017 was sold out. Tried two more dates after that but by then it was hopeless…

Hoping the secondary market prices drop once people realize the current cast is leaving in the coming months.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamilton-the-musical/736119/134 "2016-06-13T13:41:07Z")

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After seeing the 60 Minutes segment and the Tonys, LMM is an intelligent, likeable person who is going to go far. I noticed the cast did not have their guns in the opening number.

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**Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamilton-the-musical/736119/135 "2016-06-13T14:29:35Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> After seeing the 60 Minutes segment and the Tonys, LMM is an intelligent, likeable person who is going to go far. I noticed the cast did not have their guns in the opening number.

Indeed they made a statement on Twitter that morning they would forgo the muskets in deference to the murders in Orlando.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamilton-the-musical/736119/136 "2016-06-22T12:49:48Z")

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See pp. 4-5 here, in the official _Mount Vernon_ magazine, for coverage of the special Washington Prize given to Miranda: [Preview the Magazine&nbsp;·&nbsp;George Washington's Mount Vernon](http://www.mountvernon.org/magazine/spring-2016/preview-the-magazine/)

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamilton-the-musical/736119/137 "2016-06-22T13:15:43Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> After seeing the 60 Minutes segment and the Tonys, LMM is an intelligent, likeable person who is going to go far.

Going to go? He has two Tony awards for best musical to his credit, a MacArthur genius grant, drama desk awards, A PULITZER and productions of his plays running simultaneously on 3 continents, and has written for Disney as well. He is the biggest star in live theater at the moment. I don’t know that he can go a whole heck of a lot farther.

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamilton-the-musical/736119/138 "2016-06-22T13:24:39Z")

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Bought tickets yesterday for November in Chicago. First day they went on sale.

Wasn’t hard at all to get tix - just cost a helluva lotta $!

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamilton-the-musical/736119/139 "2016-06-22T14:27:18Z")

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> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> Bought tickets yesterday for November in Chicago. First day they went on sale.
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> Wasn’t hard at all to get tix - just cost a helluva lotta $!

[You were luckier than most.](http://chicagoist.com/2016/06/21/photos_trying_to_score_hamilton_tic.php)

I managed to “reserve” tickets on Ticketmaster, my wait time shot up to 45 minutes, and then 20 minutes later it just kicked me out. By the time I got back on all that was left was the super premium seats or obstructed view seats.

I’m just going to enter the daily lottery and wait until they extend the run. I’m definitely not buying anything on Stubhub unless the resellers realize they over bought and prices go down.

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamilton-the-musical/736119/140 "2016-06-22T15:08:18Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> [You were luckier than most.](http://chicagoist.com/2016/06/21/photos_trying_to_score_hamilton_tic.php)

Weird. My wife did the ordering, so I don’t know too many specifics. But it didn’t seem hard at all. In the a.m. she was trying to do it via Safari, but was kept waiting endlessly. In the p.m. she tried Firefox, and got right in. I think we bought them around 4:30 p.m. And at that time, we had our choice of seats on just about every date we tried.

I don’t know what super premium means, but we paid A LOT for main floor pretty close to the stage. Tho we spent a lot, we have seen shows w/ crappy, distant, obstructed seats in the past, and I’m simply not going to do that again.

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