# Hamilton - The Musical

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamilton-the-musical/736119>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** music\
**Created:** [October 29, 2015, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamilton-the-musical/736119 "2015-10-29T20:00:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamilton-the-musical/736119/141 "2016-06-22T15:16:25Z")

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> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> I don’t know what super premium means, but we paid A LOT for main floor pretty close to the stage. Tho we spent a lot, we have seen shows w/ crappy, distant, obstructed seats in the past, and I’m simply not going to do that again.

Super premium meaning the $500 dollar seats. I’m guessing that’s what you bought?

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**Author:** ![Uncle\_Jocko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uncle_jocko/32/2932_2.png) [@Uncle\_Jocko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncle_Jocko)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamilton-the-musical/736119/142 "2016-06-22T15:44:53Z")

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> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> Weird. My wife did the ordering, so I don’t know too many specifics. But it didn’t seem hard at all. In the a.m. she was trying to do it via Safari, but was kept waiting endlessly. In the p.m. she tried Firefox, and got right in. I think we bought them around 4:30 p.m. And at that time, we had our choice of seats on just about every date we tried.
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> I don’t know what super premium means, but we paid A LOT for main floor pretty close to the stage. Tho we spent a lot, we have seen shows w/ crappy, distant, obstructed seats in the past, and I’m simply not going to do that again.

I’d say you were pretty lucky. My wife and I were both trying nonstop from 10 am until I had to go to work at noon, and she tried again until almost 1, and we could never get far enough for Ticketmaster to even show us any seats for the four dates we were looking at.  
But … we also ended up lucky. Later in the evening, as my wife started working backward from the March 19 final on-sale date, she stumbled upon 5 seats in the orchestra for March 16. It’s a Thursday, sure, and we’ll just have to take the end of the week off work (we’re in Iowa), but we can do that.  
I was poking around at other (mostly weekend) dates after that, and most shows are either totally sold out or have one or two single seats left. Maybe there’s more available for weekdays, but I don’t think anybody is getting their choice of seats by today, On-Sale Day plus one.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamilton-the-musical/736119/143 "2016-06-22T15:57:29Z")

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Sooner or later there will be a touring company (or companies) out in the (relative) hinterlands. I really want to see the show, but I can wait until then.

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**Author:** ![Uncle\_Jocko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uncle_jocko/32/2932_2.png) [@Uncle\_Jocko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncle_Jocko)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamilton-the-musical/736119/144 "2016-06-22T17:26:54Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Sooner or later there will be a touring company (or companies) out in the (relative) hinterlands. I really want to see the show, but I can wait until then.

My problem, you see, is my spouse (and children, but they’re out of the house now) are absolutely ga-ga nuts over this show. I think it’s incredible, just from a listen to the soundtrack, but the rest of my family is certifiable, and would no doubt lease _me_ if it got them tickets.

So not only did we subscribe to the 2016-17 Broadway season at the Des Moines Civic Center (in order to guarantee us subscriber access to the ‘Hamilton’ tour coming in the 2017-18 season), but we went through Ticketmaster purgatory for these Chicago tickets in March (and my wife is still hoping to score more).

Meanwhile my son shelled out tickets for July 9 in New York. Yes, that’s supposed to be the final performance for Lin-Manuel and Phillipa. Yes, the news broke before he bought them. Yes, they were a king’s ransom - although by now those tickets are going for twice what he paid.

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamilton-the-musical/736119/145 "2016-06-22T17:38:00Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> Super premium meaning the $500 dollar seats. I’m guessing that’s what you bought?

No comment! :smack:

My wife wanted to go - I’ve seen enough theater to last a couple of lifetimes and would have gladly passed… But what the heck, at this point we’re just pissing away our kids’ potential inheritance! 😃

The way I rationalize it, it is a heck of a lot cheaper than a weekend to NY to see a Broadway show. And, like I said, if I’m going to see a show, nothing pisses me off more than paying a high price to sit in the nosebleed section, peering through binoculars. For that reason, I’d rather splurge on good tix for fewer shows.

Once you decide to bite the bullet, the difference between - say $4-600 for balcony and $1000 seems less significant to me. Anyone want to dress up in a full body Dinsdale suit and see if we can get away with you accompanying my wife? I might pay extra for THAT!

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamilton-the-musical/736119/146 "2016-06-22T18:01:24Z")

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> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> I’ve seen enough theater to last a couple of lifetimes and would have gladly passed…

These SEEM like English words when taken in isolation, but as a sentence it just … makes no sense.

[/incredible jealousy at your tickets]

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**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamilton-the-musical/736119/147 "2016-06-22T18:44:42Z")

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> [@Uncle\_Jocko](#):
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> Meanwhile my son shelled out tickets for July 9 in New York. Yes, that’s supposed to be the final performance for Lin-Manuel and Phillipa. Yes, the news broke before he bought them. Yes, they were a king’s ransom - although by now those tickets are going for twice what he paid.

Leslie Odom too. (Possibly others, if they don’t renew their contracts, whether by their own choice or the producers.)

Damn, that performance is going to be insane.

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamilton-the-musical/736119/148 "2016-06-22T19:01:50Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> These SEEM like English words when taken in isolation, but as a sentence it just … makes no sense.
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> [/incredible jealousy at your tickets]

Ditto ditto ditto.

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**Author:** ![Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maggie_the_Ocelot)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamilton-the-musical/736119/149 "2016-06-22T23:50:20Z")

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> [@Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](#):
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> Apparently resale value on the tix I got is at about $4k each 😮

The seat right next to mine is now going for $5,707. This is for July 7, two days before Miranda/Soo/Odom leave. A week later and similar seats are going for half that.

Holy crap.

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**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamilton-the-musical/736119/150 "2016-06-23T10:21:12Z")

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Even the ‘half that’ is holy-crap-worthy! I’m still impatiently awaiting specifics about the show coming to London, and I cherish the hope that many of the original cast will be part of the show when it opens there.

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**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamilton-the-musical/736119/151 "2016-06-23T14:41:30Z")

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**Dinsdale** - Doesn’t your family do Revolutionary War reenactment?

StG

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamilton-the-musical/736119/152 "2016-06-23T14:52:10Z")

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> [@shantih](#):
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> Even the ‘half that’ is holy-crap-worthy! I’m still impatiently awaiting specifics about the show coming to London, and I cherish the hope that many of the original cast will be part of the show when it opens there.

That actually makes way more sense for the producers than renewing the stars’ contracts on Broadway. Broadway seats are sold out for the next year (maybe more). They don’t need the stars to sell tickets. They may not even need stars to sell tickets in London, but putting tony award winners on the marquee for a show that hasn’t opened yet is better money spent than upping their salary for Broadway when the seats are already all sold.

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamilton-the-musical/736119/153 "2016-06-23T17:48:35Z")

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> [@StGermain](#):
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> **Dinsdale** - Doesn’t your family do Revolutionary War reenactment?
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> StG

Yeah - not me, tho. I believe their backstory has me conveniently missing, presumed dead! 🆒

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2016, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamilton-the-musical/736119/154 "2016-07-09T20:20:47Z")

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High school U.S. history students get their beloved teacher in to see Miranda backstage: [The gift of 'Hamilton': Shaker High students make their history teacher's Broadway dream come alive - cleveland.com](http://www.cleveland.com/onstage/index.ssf/2016/07/the_gift_of_hamilton_shaker_hi.html#incart_river_home)

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamilton-the-musical/736119/155 "2016-07-10T03:49:15Z")

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And that’s it. This was the last show for a big chunk of the original cast (until they inevitably come back and reprise their roles some day). The music is so good, I don’t even care. I still want to see it.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamilton-the-musical/736119/156 "2016-07-10T12:55:29Z")

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Yes. Miranda has bowed out of the lead role - for now: [Lin-Manuel Miranda takes the 'Hamilton' stage one last time](http://money.cnn.com/2016/07/09/media/hamilton-lin-manuel-miranda-last-show/index.html?iid=SF_LN)

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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamilton-the-musical/736119/157 "2016-07-10T13:05:08Z")

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Yup. Lin-Manuel has other projects–the new \*Mary Poppins \*move? And, one hopes, a new original musical, some day.

Philippa Soo will star in a musical version of _Amelie_.

And we read that Leslie Odom Jr will concentrate on his music. But I _really_ want to _see_ him at work again He’s appeared in an assortment of TV shows & he drips charisma…

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamilton-the-musical/736119/158 "2016-07-10T13:37:34Z")

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Odom Jr. will be the biggest loss, he was, IMO, the best performer in the cast by a lot. Not that everyone wasn’t great, but he was special. Miranda, for all his genius, is an average performer. He’s good, not great. But whoever takes over Burr is going to have a hard time.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamilton-the-musical/736119/159 "2016-07-10T14:00:31Z")

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My wife bought the cast album about a month ago (around the time of the Grammy Awards), and we’ve pretty much been listening to it Non-Stop since then. I’ve never been a big musical/broadway fan, but this is simply a work of genius. What LMM has created is so powerful and clever and moving and intelligent that it’s hard to not drain my bank account to head to New York (where I can be a new man) to see it in person. I almost convinced my wife we should get Chicago tickets, but with a new baby it’s tough. Word has it that the theater it’s going to play in has a very large number of obstructed seats, so popping for the good seats would be the only way we’d go - and at ~$500, that’s not happening.

Congrats to everyone who managed to see the original cast - I’m unspeakably jealous.

And I don’t think anyone has linked to sportswriter [Joe Posnanski’s article on Hamilton](http://sportsworld.nbcsports.com/hamilton/). It’s a wonderful tribute to both the musical and his daughter.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hamilton-the-musical/736119/160 "2016-07-10T14:02:21Z")

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> [@Pabitel](#):
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> It is the ridiculous over the top nature of the production. I take one look at any of the performances available via video and all I can think is, you’ve got to be kidding.
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> I would feel the same way about a bluegrass version of Madam Butterfly or a **Zydeco version of The Godfather.** The gimmick is so silly and over the top that the substance is completely lost on me.

On the bolded, omg I would so see this. From the incredible stage hit “Laissez les bon têtes roulez”, to Sonny being gunned down at the etouffee stand, this would be genius.

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