# Han Solo is back in Episode VII

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/han-solo-is-back-in-episode-vii/650400>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 15, 2013, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/han-solo-is-back-in-episode-vii/650400 "2013-02-15T15:52:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/han-solo-is-back-in-episode-vii/650400/21 "2013-02-16T01:29:53Z")

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> [@drewtwo99](#):
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> Hey if they can make Jeff Bridges look like he’s 20-something in the new Tron movie, [snip]

They did? He just looked oddly CGI faced to me!

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**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/han-solo-is-back-in-episode-vii/650400/22 "2013-02-16T01:33:14Z")

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> [@TBG](#):
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> They did? He just looked oddly CGI faced to me!

In all seriousness it didn’t look 100% natural but it was pretty damn good.

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**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/han-solo-is-back-in-episode-vii/650400/23 "2013-02-16T01:40:25Z")

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> [@drewtwo99](#):
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> In all seriousness it didn’t look 100% natural but it was pretty damn good.

If you mean, “incredibly fake-looking”, then yes.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/han-solo-is-back-in-episode-vii/650400/24 "2013-02-16T01:44:37Z")

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Outside Indiana Jones 4\*, I haven’t seen Harrison Ford emote in a long time. Well, maybe a bit in that Cowboys vs. Aliens movie, but not much else.

\*Yes, I really, really liked that one and thought he was good in it.

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**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/han-solo-is-back-in-episode-vii/650400/25 "2013-02-16T01:47:39Z")

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> [@smiling\_bandit](#):
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> If you mean, “incredibly fake-looking”, then yes.

Ok, well what if they just use footage of Harrison Ford from various different movies he’s been in and splice it into the new Star Wars movie?

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/han-solo-is-back-in-episode-vii/650400/26 "2013-02-16T02:14:12Z")

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Consider that Han Solo is a gunslinger from the Wild West of the Outer Rim Territories. I could see his fate being the equivalent of a retired Sheriff for a dusty dry world.

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**Author:** ![dzeiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/46a35a/32.png) [@dzeiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dzeiger)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/han-solo-is-back-in-episode-vii/650400/27 "2013-02-16T02:26:34Z")

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> [@joebuck20](#):
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> So will he shoot first?

Only if he replaces the blue milk with the blue pills.

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**Author:** ![magnusblitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@magnusblitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magnusblitz)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/han-solo-is-back-in-episode-vii/650400/28 "2013-02-16T02:43:57Z")

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I’m excited, I was hoping they’d get back the old cast (for cameos most likely). Ford’s a good choice since he’s still in shape; I’m not sure Mark Hamill or Carrie Fisher really have “it” anymore for the big screen. Heck, I wouldn’t mind if Ford even got more than a cameo (alongside other new characters, of course).

I hope they stay away from the facial de-aging CGI stuff though, I don’t think they’ve gotten it “right” yet.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/han-solo-is-back-in-episode-vii/650400/29 "2013-02-16T02:57:56Z")

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> [@drewtwo99](#):
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> Hey if they can make Jeff Bridges look like he’s 20-something in the new Tron movie, or make Brad Pitt look like he’s 19 in that Benjamin Button movie

You mean the creepy death mask thing they put on Bridges’ face in the first scene? I didn’t think it was all that successful.

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**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/han-solo-is-back-in-episode-vii/650400/30 "2013-02-16T03:11:57Z")

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I wouldn’t mind seeing Carrie in the old slave girl bikini even now.

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/han-solo-is-back-in-episode-vii/650400/31 "2013-02-16T03:31:52Z")

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> [@BMalion](#):
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> I wouldn’t mind seeing Carrie in the old slave girl bikini even now.

Yeah, you would.

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/han-solo-is-back-in-episode-vii/650400/32 "2013-02-16T03:46:04Z")

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[For example,](http://www.bittenandbound.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Carrie-Fisher-became-Jenny-Craig-spokesperson-in-January-2011.jpg) this recent non-bikini photo should suffice to keep you off your feed for a few days.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/han-solo-is-back-in-episode-vii/650400/33 "2013-02-16T03:55:16Z")

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[Carrie Fisher](http://www.tmz.com/2012/11/07/carrie-fisher-star-wars-disney-video/) and [Mark Hamill](http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Mark+Hamill+Comic+Con+International+2012+Stan+FwUOAgbCXtEl.jpg) will have to transform themselves somewhat if they’re going to be in the films, and seems to me if Harrison is in them then they will be too. But it can be done, as multiple examples will show, one of the more recent being [Nigella Lawson](http://beaut.ie/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/nigella-lawson-skinny.jpg).

Mark has to be a Jedi, so needs to look great. Carrie has more leeway as she’ll be a 60 year old Princess, and she slimmed down [in 2011](http://www.saidaonline.com/en/newsgfx/carrie-fisher-slim.jpg) but has bounced back somewhat.

I wish I wasn’t being so superficial, but unfortunately it matters in the world of movies.

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**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/han-solo-is-back-in-episode-vii/650400/34 "2013-02-16T04:23:10Z")

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Look, I remember being impressed with Tron:Legacy, as well as the people I saw it with, and how they made Jeff Bridges young, and I also remember being impressed with Benjamin Button and how they made Brad Pitt look really young. Were the effects perfect? No. But they were impressive.

Considering that those movies are a few years old now, and this is a Star Wars movie that will have a billion dollars thrown at it, they could probably pull it off.

But I was mostly being humorous and I doubt Disney will go down that road.

I don’t think _any_ amount of CGI could get Hamill and Fischer to look like their old selves again, so, I don’t think they’ll do it with Harrison.

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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/han-solo-is-back-in-episode-vii/650400/35 "2013-02-16T04:48:38Z")

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Wow, those pictures of Fisher (and Hamill, for those who might have once found him attractive) need to carry a warning for people who would have liked to retain their old childhood fantasies. Yeesh!

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**Author:** ![Nunzio\_Tavulari](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Nunzio\_Tavulari](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nunzio_Tavulari)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/han-solo-is-back-in-episode-vii/650400/36 "2013-02-16T15:58:26Z")

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Why must we continue this fantasy that living doesn’t take it’s toll? Enough with the diets and the photoshopping. That’s what those fictional characters looked liked then, this is how they look now.

No matter how well you’ve kept your physique and despite what your vanity, you looked better when you were 20. Even if you’re 25 now.

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**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/han-solo-is-back-in-episode-vii/650400/37 "2013-02-16T16:25:16Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> You mean the creepy death mask thing they put on Bridges’ face in the first scene? I didn’t think it was all that successful.

That’s just what people looked like in the 80’s. It was a strange decade. 😃

If they do have an elderly Han Solo, I hope he throws someone off the Falcon with an obligatory “GET OFF MY SHIP!”😃

But yeah, presumably any movie taking place that far in the future will have new characters. If the younger characters in the prequels were the elder characters in the original trilogy, then the younger folks in the original trilogy would be due to be elder characters this time around.

In any case, movies where old dudes kick ass seems to be the thing lately. I think Bruce Willis has starred in more action movies in the last 3 years than he did in the ten previously.

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**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/han-solo-is-back-in-episode-vii/650400/38 "2013-02-16T16:26:50Z")

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> [@Nunzio\_Tavulari](#):
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> No matter how well you’ve kept your physique and despite what your vanity, you looked better when you were 20. Even if you’re 25 now.

Not true! When I was 20, I was overweight and perpetually in need of a haircut.

Now, I make it a point to get haircuts regularly. 😃

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**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/han-solo-is-back-in-episode-vii/650400/39 "2013-02-16T16:51:52Z")

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How does Latino Review get all these scoops? They’ve been getting them since the pre-production days of Batman Begins.

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**Author:** ![Mrs.Cake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2acd7d/32.png) [@Mrs.Cake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mrs.Cake)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/han-solo-is-back-in-episode-vii/650400/40 "2013-02-16T18:20:18Z")

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Nothing wrong with casting Hamill, especially if they go the sensible route and have him out being the old hermit on some marginal planet, which looked like a logical extension of where the character was aimed. As for Carrie Fisher, a couple months with the physical trainer and dietician, followed by the usual make-up, lighting, hair & costume stuff and she can look like 30 years of living however it is appropriate to the script. I assume she has not been living the life of a pampered princess, more of a career diplomat from a marginal government. Not a lot of time for rest or looking pretty. I would rather see her looking like Hilary Clinton than a Hollywood star.

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