# Handicapping Federal gun control legislation

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handicapping-federal-gun-control-legislation/647366>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 16, 2013, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handicapping-federal-gun-control-legislation/647366 "2013-01-16T06:42:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handicapping-federal-gun-control-legislation/647366/141 "2013-01-18T03:16:32Z")

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There will be no significant restrictions on guns by the government. So long as nothing like this ever happens again.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handicapping-federal-gun-control-legislation/647366/142 "2013-01-18T03:44:03Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> There will be no significant restrictions on guns by the government. So long as nothing like this ever happens again.

So, you work for the government?

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**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 8:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handicapping-federal-gun-control-legislation/647366/143 "2013-01-18T08:45:28Z")

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> [@Stealth\_Potato](#):
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> Why do you need a car capable of driving faster than 35 miles per hour?

More effective at serving its purpose (getting to work, hospital, school) the faster it goes, though this effectiveness drops in proportion to the other cars on the road or likelihood of crashing.

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> I wouldn’t call myself a single issue voter – I just support punishing legislators who try to put _any_ of our rights on the chopping block because of faulty fear-mongering. When they’re not doing that it’s business as usual.

So, would you not vote for a politician opposed to abortion given Roe vs. Wade?  
White guys are still the majority, but the community I see day-to-day is increasingly diverse.  
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> [@bump](#):
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> That’s my thought too. Cho, Holmes and Lanza would all have been caught by better background checks, better meaning that their mental health issues were reported appropriately and would disqualify them for gun ownership.

I think this is post hoc reasoning. Any background check which would have excluded all of them would be claimed to be overly broad by the NRA.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2013, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handicapping-federal-gun-control-legislation/647366/144 "2013-01-19T02:08:39Z")

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Christie slams NRA add

> **[Christie: NRA ad with Obama daughters ‘reprehensible’](https://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/christie-nra-ad-obama-daughters-reprehensible-230123003--politics.html)**
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> Blunt-speaking New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, thought to be eyeing a 2016 run for the Republican presidential nomination, blasted an NRA ad that mentions President Barack Obama's daughters as "reprehensible" and warned it "demeans" the powerful...

God help me…I am starting to like this guy.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2013, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handicapping-federal-gun-control-legislation/647366/145 "2013-01-19T08:00:08Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> Christie slams NRA add
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> [Yahoo News: Latest and Breaking News, Headlines, Live Updates, and More](http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/christie-nra-ad-obama-daughters-reprehensible-230123003--politics.html)
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> God help me…I am starting to like this guy.

Yeah… he’s actually articulate and pretty straightforward. This is like 3 times now I’ve heard him talk about what he considers the right thing to do and basic human decency. I think if he’s smart he waits until 2020 to run for POTUS, tho.

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**Author:** ![Stealth\_Potato](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Stealth\_Potato](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stealth_Potato)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2013, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handicapping-federal-gun-control-legislation/647366/146 "2013-01-19T08:19:46Z")

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> [@gamerunknown](#):
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> More effective at serving its purpose (getting to work, hospital, school) the faster it goes, though this effectiveness drops in proportion to the other cars on the road or likelihood of crashing.

Nobody needs to go to school or work that fast. And if you need to go to the hospital, leave it to those professionals sanctioned by society to take you there. At any rate, affording you the ability to get yourself or another person to the hospital quickly is not worth the massive death toll that is caused by the widespread availability of assault vehicles.

Tongue very firmly in cheek. 😛

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> So, would you not vote for a politician opposed to abortion given Roe vs. Wade?

Not if I could help it. Of course, if I followed through on my threat to vote against a democrat who voted for an assault weapon ban, chances are my only option would be voting for an anti-choice republican. It kinda sucks when every available politician sets at naught a different right you hold essential.

> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> [Yahoo News: Latest and Breaking News, Headlines, Live Updates, and More](http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/christie-nra-ad-obama-daughters-reprehensible-230123003--politics.html)
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> God help me…I am starting to like this guy.

He’s absolutely right, of course. Some of the things the NRA has been spewing are just stupid, offensive, and don’t in the slightest help our cause. Sure, guys, let’s offend and alienate the people we need to be persuading. It probably comes from having chuckleheads like Ted Nugent on the board of directors.

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**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2013, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handicapping-federal-gun-control-legislation/647366/147 "2013-01-19T10:41:15Z")

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> [@Stealth\_Potato](#):
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> Nobody needs to go to school or work that fast. And if you need to go to the hospital, leave it to those professionals sanctioned by society to take you there. At any rate, affording you the ability to get yourself or another person to the hospital quickly is not worth the massive death toll that is caused by the widespread availability of assault vehicles.
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> Tongue very firmly in cheek. 😛

I see what you did there, but I don’t think the analogy holds in terms of travelling to work. There is an immense cost to productivity in limiting speeds in such a way, yet no observed effect on the populace in terms of quality of life outcomes in England (well, perhaps one could argue the high rate of violent crime comes from a lack of fear of armed retaliation).

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