# Handsome and the female beast **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 12, 2017, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handsome-and-the-female-beast/779616 "2017-02-12T02:20:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![GargoyleWB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gargoylewb/32/199_2.png) [@GargoyleWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GargoyleWB)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handsome-and-the-female-beast/779616/41 "2017-02-15T20:20:12Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > That’s not a reversal, is it? Doh, you’re right. I think I was confused by Rhonda Rousey in your post, who IMO is a beauty not a beast. Or I just confused myself independently. I’ll go sit on the group W bench now. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handsome-and-the-female-beast/779616/42 "2017-02-15T21:18:46Z")
Not quite a great fit, but Shrek works to an extent. ---
**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handsome-and-the-female-beast/779616/43 "2017-02-15T22:31:36Z")
Wasn’t that sort of the plot of “The Way We Were”? Robert Redford was arguably the top male heartthrob in movies at the time, and Barbra Streisand wasn’t considered “conventionally beautiful”. But he was attracted to her sincerity and devotion to her political causes. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handsome-and-the-female-beast/779616/44 "2017-02-16T04:25:29Z")
Interesting how in the “she-beast” examples provided, she still looks like an attractive woman who either acts crazy or is 10-15 lbs overweight. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handsome-and-the-female-beast/779616/45 "2017-02-16T04:39:46Z")
[Old SNL where there is some confusion as to who is the “Beast”](https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/beauty-and-the-beast/n12574?snl=1) ---
**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handsome-and-the-female-beast/779616/46 "2017-02-16T07:42:08Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Lois Bujold wrote a gender flipped Beauty and the Beast story as part of her ongoing Vorkosigan Saga. The series title character, interstellar super spy Miles Vorkosigan, is captured by his enemies and dumped in a pit with a failed subject from a super-soldier experiment: If we’re including SF novels, then the “loathly brides” out of Julian May’s Pleictocene Exile saga would certainly count - mutated aliens who end up taking husbands from the ranks of the sex-starved heavily-male-skewed human population, because they can trick the humans into thinking they’re actually beautiful … until they go to sleep. And while the chief “loathly bride”, Rowane, is clearly a sweet kind thing who only wants to be nice to her man, she _is_ a Firvulag, and they do have those teeth… ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handsome-and-the-female-beast/779616/47 "2017-02-16T09:09:54Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > Interesting how in the “she-beast” examples provided, she still looks like an attractive woman who either acts crazy or is 10-15 lbs overweight. I posit that even in the original tales, the male “beast” is not supposed to be sexually unattractive either. In fact, I’d say his beastliness makes him \*more \*attractive, which is part of the story’s appeal. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handsome-and-the-female-beast/779616/48 "2017-02-16T09:21:38Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > I posit that even in the original tales, the male “beast” is not supposed to be sexually unattractive either. In fact, I’d say his beastliness makes him \*more \*attractive, which is part of the story’s appeal. Dude’s bad boy cool, as opposed to Bluebeard who is bad boy totally uncool. ---
**Author:** ![LC\_Strawhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e19adc/32.png) [@LC\_Strawhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LC_Strawhouse)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handsome-and-the-female-beast/779616/49 "2017-02-16T15:43:33Z")
Sugarbaby (aka Zuckerbaby) is a 1985 German “romantic comedy” where the lead woman character is an obese mortuary worker. [Poster](http://www.amanandamouse.com/blogspot/Zuckerbaby.jpg) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handsome-and-the-female-beast/779616.md?page=2)