# handy's drive-by posting: just stop already! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 29, 2001, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630 "2001-08-29T00:09:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Francesca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9fc348/32.png) [@Francesca](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Francesca)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2001, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/41 "2001-08-30T10:48:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by IzzyR \* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by Francesca \* > > The misinformation and rubbish that Handy posts are nothing to do with this communication barrier. It’s perfectly possible to not be able to hear and yet think coherantly and sensibly before you say something, neither of which Handy seems to do. His drive-by postings fuck me off and I don’t think it’s too much to ask that he stops and thinks before spouting the same old shit, particularly in sex threads and computer threads. It’s tiresome to have to keep rolling my eyes so damn hard every time I see his posts. > > I’ve not seen anyone suggest that handy posts the way he does because of a communication barrier. Rather, that his standards on what to post are not as high as another person’s might be. And this because he is more motivated to post than most people, because posting is the major interaction that he has with people. Of course, with some people - e.g. many of the participants in this thread - this interaction is a negative one, and is probably not worth having. But fortunately there are other, more forgiving and tolerant people out there. \*\* So you’re saying he doesn’t hold himself to as high standards as everyone else, and that means we should let him off and say “Okay, you’re a special case”. That doesn’t work for me, and it I don’t think Handy should be given concessions to post drivel. If this board is indeed his major method of interacting with people (and it should be noted that we have no idea whether it is or not), then he can go ahead and post and interact all he wants. It’s not the amount that he posts that I’m complaining about, it’s the content. It doesn’t take much to think “Is what I’m saying relevant/coherent/funny/whatever”. It’s not about forgiveness and tolerance either - I have the exact same expectations of Handy as of any other poster. IMO, anything else is patronising. Handy’s not stupid, why should we pat him on the head and say “It’s okay, you run along with your little posts now”. Bad grammar? Fine and understandable. Excessive posting? Not a problem. Consistently posting misinformation on a message board dedicated to fighting ignorance (to quote **beatle** )? Not something I find endearing. I’m well aware Handy neither posts to pit threads nor changes his behaviour in response to them. But he pisses me off and this is my chance to gripe. Sue me. Fran ---
**Author:** ![Wicked\_Blue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/2acd7d/32.png) [@Wicked\_Blue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wicked_Blue)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2001, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/42 "2001-08-30T11:15:12Z")
The only thing that bugs me about handy is his constant misspelling of the word ‘herpes’. It’s H-E-R-P-E-S, not ‘herphes.’ Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2001, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/43 "2001-08-30T13:16:40Z")
It would be kindof funny if he posted here with a non sequiter or something. ---
**Author:** ![Montfort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Montfort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Montfort)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2001, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/44 "2001-08-30T16:07:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by IzzyR \* > I am not excusing his being self centered and rude, if indeed he is. But the title of this thread is about his being a drive-by poster, as are the posts to this point, and I think that is somewhat excusable. And why is it excusable? It’s not like he hasn’t had it brought to his attention before. He reminds me of a child who is reprimanded for doing something wrong, but continues to do it. I don’t know how many formal warnings he’s gotten from moderators, actually I think he got one in the “posting links to naked breasts” thread. Anyway, he’s been told what he is doing is not appreciated. He had been corrected and reminded numerous times. Yet he still continues, with no regard for the facts, or for what he’s been told is wrong. Deafness is not an excuse. > [@](#): > > Do you really take this seriously? To me its like saying “we’ve told you you’re an idiot three times already, SO STOP BEING SUCH AN IDIOT!!!” Alas, it’s hard to take anything seriously when it comes to handy. > [@](#): > > I would also note that handy does tend to receive some dissenting support in these threads, and he likely concurs with those opinions. Cite? > [@](#): > > Of course, with some people - e.g. many of the participants in this thread - this interaction is a negative one, and is probably not worth having. But fortunately there are other, more forgiving and tolerant people out there. Are you singling me out? I’d be more than willing to forgive handy, if he’d show any sign of contriteness, or even, Cecil forbid, apologise. Not gonna happen. ---
**Author:** ![IzzyR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/2acd7d/32.png) [@IzzyR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IzzyR)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2001, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/45 "2001-08-30T17:51:27Z")
OK, I think we’re at an impasse here. But I will adress two comments: > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Montfort \* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by IzzyR \* > > I would also note that handy does tend to receive some dissenting support in these threads, and he likely concurs with those opinions. > > Cite? I don’t know why you wouldn’t just read the threads - they’re linked right here. In the **demo** thread he was supported by Starbury, Whammo, &T Bill. In yours, he was backed by Caliban, casdave, Homer, dropzone, Lux Fiat & SPOOFE (on the first page - I didn’t read past there). > [@](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > Of course, with some people - e.g. many of the participants in this thread - this interaction is a negative one, and is probably not worth having. But fortunately there are other, more forgiving and tolerant people out there. > > Are you singling me out? I’m not sure what you mean by this. I would think it is self evident that someone looking to interact with people on a message board is not looking to do so with people who find his style annoying. If I’ve missed part of your question fill me in. ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2001, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/46 "2001-08-30T18:04:47Z")
But why do you (and others) assume that this message board is his primary means of human interaction? Has he said anything to suggest this? I hope you are not thinking that he is not able to communicate with others because he is deaf. Deaf people can communicate just fine. Being deaf or hearing impaired is a handicap in that it limits the ease with which deaf people can communicate with the average hearing person–and the hearing are the vast majority. But that does not mean that the deaf are incapable of communicating with the hearing. And the deaf communicate easily amongst themselves. Frankly, if this board is his primary means of human interaction, than being deaf is the least of his problems. ---
**Author:** ![jab1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee7513/32.png) [@jab1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jab1)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2001, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/47 "2001-08-30T19:20:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Redboss \* > **So if you can’t beat them…** …hire someone to beat them. 😃 But seriously, is **handy** bedridden or something? Is there a legitimate reason he cannot interact with anyone IRL? ---
**Author:** ![IzzyR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/2acd7d/32.png) [@IzzyR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IzzyR)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2001, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/48 "2001-08-30T19:29:42Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Green Bean \* > \*\*But why do you (and others) assume that this message board is his primary means of human interaction? It has been suggested earlier in this thread that he is not proficient in sign language. > [@](#): > > Frankly, if this board is his primary means of human interaction, than being deaf is the least of his problems. Quite true. All the more reason not to add to them. ---
**Author:** ![Montfort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Montfort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Montfort)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2001, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/49 "2001-08-30T20:49:35Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by IzzyR \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by Green Bean \* > > But why do you (and others) assume that this message board is his primary means of human interaction? > > It has been suggested earlier in this thread that he is not proficient in sign language. Okay, let’s settle this. Could you please drag handy into this thread, or get him to post elsewhere, pertaining to his ASL proficiency and with whom and how he communicates other than on the SDMB. For example, I believe that he runs a MB on one of his web sites (a surfing site?). ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2001, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/50 "2001-08-30T21:23:01Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jab1 \* > But seriously, is **handy** bedridden or something? Is there a legitimate reason he cannot interact with anyone IRL? To my recollection **handy** has mentioned going out to parties and such. His SDPP picture was, at one point (I don’t know if it still is) a picture of him in a tuxedo at a party, though I also remember (again, can’t give you a thread where he said it) him saying that it was from about a decade ago. Wish I could give relevant cites, but given the volume of threads to which handy’s posted and the likelihood that he would be posting this information in a thread about that subject . . . 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![magdalene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df788c/32.png) [@magdalene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magdalene)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2001, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/51 "2001-08-30T22:17:08Z")
**Wicked Blue** …yes, YES! I HATE that. handy has an unparalleled ability to make any thread turn into a discussion of breasts. Sometimes his answers to questions are so off-base and incorrect they seem like trolling. I do my best to ignore him. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2001, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/52 "2001-08-30T22:49:58Z")
I’d seen the other handy threads before, and shrugged it off. in [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=69162) I became a believer. In it, the OP was asking if there was any factual basis for the idea that low income minorities commit more crimes than others. handy posted a piece of racist drivel, claimed it was from “[fbi.gov](http://fbi.gov)” that he got from a ‘website I can’t mention’. and when called on it (by a couple posters, and a mod) some one else identified the site as a white power site. IOW, he apparently **knew** where the data came from, and specifically posted the data but not the source, attempting to give it legitimacy by saying it was ‘fbi’ numbers. and on a controversial subject that had already attracted a noted troll. way to go. From that point on, I haven’t bothered reading what he has to say. And I don’t say that often. ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2001, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/53 "2001-08-30T23:46:55Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by bibliophage \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by Enderw24 \* > > \*\*BTW, I believe **tracer** is in second place. \*\* > > Used to be, I think, but not any more. I think the correct order is: > > handy 10297 > Coldfire 8136 > Tracer 7400 > David B 6395\*\* I’m second after handy? Honestly? Fuck, that’s almost… _sad_, isn’t it? Props to **MysterEcks** for implying I actually “go for content”, though. 🙂 And while **beatle** said it best with his car-paint-spot analogy, he also said: > [@](#): > > **And, while he has PO’d various mods at times, he doesn’t appear to be in any imminent danger of being banned.** The danger is as imminent as he wants it to be. He’d better not be posting a titty link or some racist drivel anytime soon, if you catch my drift. ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2001, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/54 "2001-08-31T00:47:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by wring \* > From that point on, I haven’t bothered reading what he has to say. And I don’t say that often. So that means you read, at most, about half the posts on this MB?😉 ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2001, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/55 "2001-08-31T00:56:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by iampunha \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by wring \* > > From that point on, I haven’t bothered reading what he has to say. And I don’t say that often. > > So that means you read, at most, about half the posts on this MB?😉 \*\* eeee-yup. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Ringo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/779978/32.png) [@Ringo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ringo)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2001, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/56 "2001-08-31T02:24:22Z")
**Redboss** , that _was_ handy. Good job! ---
**Author:** ![Montfort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Montfort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Montfort)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2001, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/57 "2001-08-31T02:53:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by wring \* > in [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=69162) I became a believer. […] handy posted a piece of racist drivel, claimed it was from “[fbi.gov](http://fbi.gov)” that he got from a ‘website I can’t mention’. and when called on it (by a couple posters, and a mod) some one else identified the site as a white power site. > > IOW, he apparently **knew** where the data came from, and specifically posted the data but not the source, attempting to give it legitimacy by saying it was ‘fbi’ numbers. and on a controversial subject that had already attracted a noted troll. \*\* Sheesh, I missed that. Now I don’t feel like I’m picking on him anymore. > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Coldfire \* > And while **beatle** said it best with his car-paint-spot analogy, he also said: > > > [@](#): > > > > **And, while he has PO’d various mods at times, he doesn’t appear to be in any imminent danger of being banned.** > > The danger is as imminent as he wants it to be. He’d better not be posting a titty link or some racist drivel anytime soon, if you catch my drift. \*\* So, if he’s goaded into doing this, would the goader be rewarded or reprimanded? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![IzzyR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/2acd7d/32.png) [@IzzyR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IzzyR)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2001, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/58 "2001-08-31T03:10:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by wring \* > IOW, he apparently **knew** where the data came from, and specifically posted the data but not the source, attempting to give it legitimacy by saying it was ‘fbi’ numbers. and on a controversial subject that had already attracted a noted troll. This is a very legitimate criticism. But enough of this. What I am really interested in is this: > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by iampunha \* > So that means you read, at most, about half the posts on this MB?😉 > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by wring \* > eeee-yup. 😉 Now I don’t think I read more than about 2 or 3% of the posts to this board, and I think I waste too much time on it. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Montfort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Montfort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Montfort)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2001, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/59 "2001-08-31T15:53:45Z")
Then why are you defending him, **Izzy**? ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2001, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/60 "2001-08-31T16:04:25Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by IzzyR \* > \*\*But enough of this. What I am really interested in is this: > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by iampunha \* > > So that means you read, at most, about half the posts on this MB?😉 > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by wring \* > > eeee-yup. 😉 > > Now I don’t think I read more than about 2 or 3% of the posts to this board, and I think I waste too much time on it. 😕 \*\* well, for my part of the exchange, I assumed that **iampunha** was making a joke, implying that handy was responsible for half the posts here, so that if I were skipping his, then there’s only half the board left to read. Applying my handy (_pardon the pun_ ) wring/english translator, : My reply was simply “cute, I got the joke” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630.md?page=4)