# handy's drive-by posting: just stop already! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 29, 2001, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630 "2001-08-29T00:09:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2001, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/81 "2001-11-14T17:29:17Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Duck Duck Goose \* > **I just dislike pile-ons. 😉** Would you prefer that everyone who’s been pissed off by handy start a separate Pit Thread? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2001, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/82 "2001-11-14T17:46:55Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Duck Duck Goose \* > Okay. I’m not interested in taking this to the mattresses, I just dislike pile-ons. 😉 Bah, this is hardly a pile on. It is about a specific set of behaviour in specific places. I daresay few would care if handy was handy IMHO or MPSIMS or even Cafe. > [@](#): > > I still maintain that I don’t think he’s being “wrong” or “unhelpful” on purpose. I see a difference between, “Oh, I see an OP about which I think I know something, so I’ll go ahead and post something that I think is helpful”, and, > > “Oh, I see an OP about which I know very little, but I’ll go ahead and post something off the top of my head, and if it’s wrong, so what.” > > I think Handy’s style is the first. Other people seem to think it’s the second. [shrug] The first is explanatory for a period of behaviour and makes sense **if he so clearly has ignored past corrections**. He repeats erroneous info even after he’s been corrected. Everything about his pattern over time says #2. There’s cutting slack and there’s willful blindness. > [@](#): > > And I definitely don’t think it’s a kind of trolling. He is what he is. _Yes_, he is what he is, and so were peace and others. There’s no inherent contradiction. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2001, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/83 "2001-11-14T18:26:26Z")
With respect and fondness **DDG** , please check out the link I provided. In that thread, it was **clear** that \*\* handy\*\* was aware that the cite he was quoting from had an agenda, yet he made references to the information from that cite _without providing the cite_, adding instead that the info came from the fbi, thus lending it even more legitimacy. So, I respectfully submit to you that certainly in that case, he had reason to know beforehand that there was something amiss with the information he was presenting, yet denied us the source so we could see for ourselves that it was basically coming from [racists-R-us.com](http://racists-R-us.com), **AND** compounded the problem by saying the data came from the fbi. ---
**Author:** ![Sofa\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58956e/32.png) [@Sofa\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sofa_King)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2001, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/84 "2001-11-14T21:19:04Z")
Rather than gaze upon **handy** ’s somewhat annoying past, we should all be patting this guy on the back for researching and properly citing what he says. _Right on, bro!_ Oh, I forgot that he probably isn’t going to read this. Which is an unfortunate thing. The fact of the matter is that a string of thoughtful, well-documented posts, backed by his monstrous post-count, could actually give him an air of legitimacy and authority which he regrettably does not have right now. I for one hope that **handy** will turn things around and start being a helpful contributor to these boards, rather than an occasional low-level annoyance. He’s got the time and (in this instance) the inclination to be a font of knowledge. Perhaps all he needs is our encouragement. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2001, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/85 "2001-11-15T00:14:12Z")
No, I mentioned it because sometimes it’s useless. It feels like a pile on because Handy refuses to come in, so that’s the problem. FWIW, I agree with most people-I find Handy annoying and childish. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2001, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/86 "2001-11-16T19:04:57Z")
GLYARGHGHGHGLDLGHLLLGGGGGGG! (Inarticulate howl). thank you. I needed to do that. ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2001, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/87 "2001-11-16T19:39:11Z")
**Qadgop** , if it makes you feel any better, I’m pretty sure that 99% (if not 100%) of the people who have been paying attention to this whole “handy styles himself an expert on when to prescribe antibiotics” fiasco, are well aware that handy is being an idiotic ass who doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Not that this is much different from usual. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2001, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/88 "2001-11-16T20:04:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Qadgop the Mercotan \* > \*\*GLYARGHGHGHGLDLGHLLLGGGGGGG! (Inarticulate howl). > > thank you. I needed to do that. \*\* **Qadgop** , if it’s any consolation (maybe it’s not) as far as I’ve ever seen you’re the first person to prompt **handy** to actually do some research to back up his assertions. (Though **Lynn’s** threat to ban him probably had a lot to do with it.) OK, it wasn’t very good research, but it looked like a start. I had a momentary glimmer of hope that it might have signaled a change in behavior. However, handy’s subsequent responses both in that thread and one in ATMB indicate he still hasn’t bought a clue. To tell you the truth, I don’t really know what’s worse - having handy do drive-bys, and never come back to the scene of the crime, or have him come back and argue pointlessly about something he clearly knows nothing about. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2001, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/89 "2001-11-16T21:46:04Z")
Well let’s see: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=74392](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=74392) Where he claims OCD is caused by environment. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2001, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/90 "2001-11-16T21:57:06Z")
And here: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=95359](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=95359) ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2001, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/91 "2001-11-17T02:41:19Z")
(rocking quietly in corner, muttering) “Detach with compassion, detach with compassion. Principles over personalities. There’s no point in letting someone live rent-free in my head. It takes all kinds, it’s a wonderful world that has so many unique people in it.” OK, better now. ---
**Author:** ![Rysdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7cd45c/32.png) [@Rysdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysdad)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2001, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/92 "2001-11-17T05:52:37Z")
Although the post I’m about to make is entirely handy-like in his drive by fashion, I have to state that the brilliance of the following: > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Qadgop the Mercotan \* > \*\*There’s no point in letting someone live rent-free in my head. \*\* cannot go unrecognized. ---
**Author:** ![kniz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c37758/32.png) [@kniz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kniz)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2001, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/93 "2001-11-17T07:46:45Z")
What is the saying about not criticizing someone until you’ve walked in their shoes? At least once it has been stated that being deaf is not an excuse. I disagree. I have not walked in a deaf persons shoes, but for 15 years I had at least 1 deaf person working for me at any given time and learned a few things that I wouldn’t have known about being deaf. The workers I dealt with may not have gotten as good of an education as Handy, but I think this will still apply. They have not been able to communicate the same way we have and I know that their thought processes differ from ours. I am not in any way saying it is inferior, just that it works different. I should also say that this only applies to people that have been deaf since birth. **Think** Now did your thoughts have any words floating around them? Well, deaf people don’t have words floating around their thoughts and in many cases their vocabulary is fairly limited, but if they use words in thought it must be written words. In Handy’s case he doesn’t seem to have a limited vocabulary, but he has never heard an idea expressed in words. I suspect Handy has found a way of being different on SDMB, which to me is better than his not posting because of the fear of being different. ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2001, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/94 "2001-11-17T08:16:52Z")
Being deaf does not excuse posting incorrect information, misleading information, or useless GQ posts. ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2001, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/95 "2001-11-17T14:33:19Z")
**kniz** : Please don’t tell me that you’ve bought into handy’s “oh poor me I’m deaf” line of bullshit. There are other deaf posters here and they don’t have this problem. p.s. Please read the below until you understand: > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by MsWhatsit \* > \*\*Being deaf does not excuse posting incorrect information, misleading information, or useless GQ posts. \*\* ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2001, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/96 "2001-11-17T16:07:42Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by kniz \* > **I should also say that this only applies to people that have been deaf since birth. Think. Now did your thoughts have any words floating around them? Well, deaf people don’t have words floating around their thoughts and in many cases their vocabulary is fairly limited, but if they use words in thought it must be written words. In Handy’s case he doesn’t seem to have a limited vocabulary, but he has never heard an idea expressed in words.** Ah, but in this [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=98764), **Handy** describeds himself as a “post-lingually late-deafened adult.” > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by handy \* > **The reason I write in english is because I’m a post lingually late deafened adult. That’s pretty self descriptive.** The [website](http://www.alda.org/) for the Association of Late-Deafened Adults states that: > [@](#): > > Late-deafened usually means deafness that happened post-lingually, any time _after the development of speech and language_ [emphasis added]. Often it means after the age of adolescence (13 and above). Usually a late-deafened adult (LDA) has identified with hearing society through schooling, social connections, etc…They also may have lost their hearing suddenly or gradually as a result of inherited causes, accident, illness, medication, surgery, noise or other factors. LDAs also can share in the common experience of having been raised in the hearing world and having become deaf rather than having been born deaf. Thus, **Handy** has certainly had ideas that are expressed in words. In any event, while I am sympathetic to **Handy** ’s hearing loss, I fail to see how that explains his particular posting style. ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2001, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/97 "2001-11-17T16:11:04Z")
Hmmm. This word doesn’t know what tense it wants to be in. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Montfort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Montfort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Montfort)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2001, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/98 "2001-11-17T16:36:42Z")
Okay, I officially give up, too. His latest contribution to the “Medical Advice” thread in ATMB is enough to send my head spinning, and it’s good that I married a Doper so I don’t let handy drag down my opinion of all of you. Jag älskar dej, **Anniz**. Any room in that corner, QtM? :bangs head against wall repeatedly: ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2001, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/99 "2001-11-17T16:42:49Z")
Move over, **Montfort** Wham…wham…wham…wham… ---
**Author:** ![kniz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c37758/32.png) [@kniz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kniz)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2001, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/100 "2001-11-17T17:40:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by robby \* > **Ah, but in this [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=98764), Handy describeds himself as a "post-lingually late-deafened adult."** I probably should have known this. It is why I put in the fact that what I said applied to those you were born deaf. So much for that thought. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630.md?page=6)