# handy's drive-by posting: just stop already! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 29, 2001, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630 "2001-08-29T00:09:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![kniz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c37758/32.png) [@kniz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kniz)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2001, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/101 "2001-11-17T18:05:19Z")
> [@](#): > > _from the man himself; Handy_ > \*\*Surprise Esprix, that’s how I ‘hear’ & that’s how I talk. > > Try to remember that deafness is a communication impairment & one gets quite a lot less information than hearing people do. Now, hearing people on the board get a LOT of information with their ears so it’s probably frustrating for them to not get as much information when they read my posts as they usually get when talking to someone at work. Then they may want to force me into providing a more comfortable level of information that they are used to, in order to simulate for them real life. I sometimes cannot do this for the reason mentioned above, in that I cannot give what I don’t have. My primary receiving language is sign language which has a grammar structure that leaves out a lot of words–words I often forget to add myself to my writings.\*\* ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2001, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/102 "2001-11-19T04:28:51Z")
Bullshit. Oh poor handy. Poor poor baby. :rolleyes: Give me a break. ---
**Author:** ![Primaflora](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/898d66/32.png) [@Primaflora](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Primaflora)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2001, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/103 "2001-11-19T04:51:58Z")
I think it is crapola. Total crapola. I’m willing to believe that deaf or Deaf people communicate differently, that’s an obvious truth but it does not excuse them from giving accurate information. I’ve encountered other deaf or Deaf people on-line and they don’t communicate in handy’s unique style. This isn’t a pile-on because handy communicates differently. It’s a pile-on because he gives wrong information and gives misleading or no cites. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2001, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/104 "2001-11-19T06:56:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Qadgop the Mercotan \* > \*\*GLYARGHGHGHGLDLGHLLLGGGGGGG! (Inarticulate howl). > > thank you. I needed to do that. \*\* Spouting gibberish is the first sign of meningitis. You need to get a spinal tap IMMEDIATELY! Oh, and ask your doctors for some antibiotics while you’re there. ---
**Author:** ![lucwarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e19adc/32.png) [@lucwarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lucwarm)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2001, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/105 "2001-11-20T00:53:29Z")
Egads, I’ve been **handied** [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=99886](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=99886) There’s something about his posts that is charmingly Eliza-esque. Might **handy** be somebody’s artificial intelligence program? ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2001, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/106 "2001-11-20T01:34:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by lucwarm \* > \*\*Egads, I’ve been **handied** > > There’s something about his posts that is charmingly Eliza-esque. Might **handy** be somebody’s artificial intelligence program? \*\* HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT SOMEBODY’S ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE PROGRAM? ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2001, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/107 "2001-11-20T03:32:32Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by lucwarm \* > \*\*Might **handy** be somebody’s artificial intelligence program? \*\* Well, that would explain his inexhaustible ability to post. Maybe he’s that AI program that is being taught common sense. [http://www.cyc.com/](http://www.cyc.com/) Looks like they’ve got a long way to go. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![capybara](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/capybara/32/202_2.png) [@capybara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capybara)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2001, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/108 "2001-11-20T04:53:08Z")
I just wanted to say that Fenris’ post almost made me pee myself. (WHAT MADE YOU THINK I WAS TALKING ABOUT FENRIS’ POST ALMOST?) ---
**Author:** ![Badtz\_Maru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e36b37/32.png) [@Badtz\_Maru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Badtz_Maru)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2001, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/109 "2001-11-20T05:22:26Z")
That’s a lousy excuse. Does he think hearing people speak with the same grammar as what we use in written communication? If I read aloud almost anything I post, it sounds unnatural - we too leave out words or say things in ways that don’t look right on the written page. ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2001, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/110 "2001-11-20T06:00:17Z")
First I will say handy is obviously not an idiot, he just sometimes plays one here. Agreed with Badtz. It has nothing to do with lack of hearing. Handy has a somewhat snippish manner of responding to questions, especially those that are computer related. For ex: OP asks about finding/installing obscure drivers for some piece of windows hardware, or some such. (mentions windows OS type in the OP) handy: “Well if you could tell us what operating system you have we might be able to help”, or “Why don’t you just read the (fucking) manual.” I see this over and over. Apparently he just skims the OP, fires off an answer and doesn’t even preview or think about it. Damned irritating. ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2001, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/111 "2001-11-20T11:23:37Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Klaatu \* > **First I will say handy is obviously not an idiot, he just sometimes plays one here.** And how is that obvious? ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2001, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/112 "2001-11-20T11:59:26Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by capybara \* > **I just wanted to say that Fenris’ post almost made me pee myself.** HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT FENRIS’S POST ALMOST MADE YOU PEE YOURSELF? ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2001, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/113 "2001-11-20T12:17:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Green Bean \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by Klaatu \* > > **First I will say handy is obviously not an idiot, he just sometimes plays one here.** > > And how is that obvious? \*\* Well, sometimes he shows an actual grasp of the question, and responds in a coherent way, although that is somewhat rare. ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2001, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/114 "2001-11-20T17:39:56Z")
**Klaatu** : Y’know, back in the day, I worked in retail management. We had an employee who was a heck of a nice guy, but a total doofus. One day, I said to my boss, “hey, good news! Billy was putting out some merchandise, went to help a customer, and then when he was done helping the customer _he actually remembered to go back to putting out the merchandise_!!” My boss said, “That’s great. He’s making real progress.” And then we both stopped and looked at each other, as we simultaneously realized that we were acting like this guy’s one single episode of not being a doofus was worthy of celebration. She let him go and hired someone else. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2001, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/115 "2001-11-20T23:23:16Z")
[I think my head just exploded](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?postid=1213798#post1213798). ---
**Author:** ![Xploder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/a183cd/32.png) [@Xploder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xploder)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2001, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/116 "2001-11-21T00:48:11Z")
[Mine too.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=99965) ---
**Author:** ![Badtz\_Maru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e36b37/32.png) [@Badtz\_Maru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Badtz_Maru)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2001, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/117 "2001-11-21T04:36:41Z")
I wonder if he posts at other boards as regularly as he posts here. Maybe part of the reason he hasn’t been banned yet is that the SDMB administrators are being bribed by the users at those other boards. ---
**Author:** ![Smashed\_Ice\_Cream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Smashed\_Ice\_Cream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smashed_Ice_Cream)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2001, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/118 "2001-11-21T04:58:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Badtz Maru \* > \*\*That’s a lousy excuse. Does he think hearing people speak with the same grammar as what we use in written communication? If I read aloud almost anything I post, it sounds unnatural - we too leave out words or say things in ways that don’t look right on the written page. \*\* thankyouthankyou Badtz 🙂 I’m finally gonna butt into this conversation. When I joined, about 2 months ago, I read a post from Handy, found out he’s deaf, and took an initial liking to him because, well, I’m deaf, and it’s a kinship thing, sorta. I’ve been reading this thread as it went, and have had sufficient time to read his posts, and re-evaluate my liking to him. FORGET THAT. Handy, I never in my life thought I’d get truly upset at a random-poster-on-some-message-board, but you managed to do it. My first point is that it’s probably dangerous to blame ALL deaf people’s grammar-or-lack-thereof on deafness, INCLUDING claiming “I write this way because I’m deaf.” I think I have a very good grasp of the written English language, and not only am I deaf, but I have been my whole life, and communicate primarily in ASL. Bringing me to my second point, which is- - Forgive the lack of a link, but I think it’s somewhere in ABTMB, handy states that he’s postlingually deafened adult. (Meaning he learned to speak before he lost his hearing) Without going into a long, drawn out explanation on deaf culture and why/how deafs sometimes tend to use what a speaking person considers ‘improper grammar’, that fact should be counterproductive to proving that makes a good excuse for posting style. I’m mortified to have that used as an excuse for acting like a rude buttnuggett, then announce that acting like a rude buttnuggett is part of the culture, and it should be accepted. I spend a lot of time and energy in my life trying to clear up misconceptions about what I am like because of my deafness, it INFURIATES me to _have another deaf person_ do this, thus, making me worry that I’m going to get lumped into “jerk” category, without doing anything wrong. So, handy, thanks a lot for displaying such great examples of deaf culture. The only thing I am truly glad of is that I sincerely doubt the other dopers are going to look at me as a female version of you, based on my handicap. Fortunately, they’re smarter than that. (Obviously) sic ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2001, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/119 "2001-11-21T05:19:39Z")
> [@](#): > > The only thing I am truly glad of is that I sincerely doubt the other dopers are going to look at me as a female version of you, based on my handicap Er, uh, you have a “handicap?” It must involve golf, ‘cause it sure doesn’t involve language darlin’. Ummm! Ice Cream. What flavor? ---
**Author:** ![jazzmine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jazzmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jazzmine)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2001, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630/120 "2001-11-21T15:25:18Z")
I would really like Handy to read **Ice Cream** ’s post, but I don’t think he even bothers to read these threads. Maybe, if you get the opportunity, you could post it again in a thread that’s not in the pit, where he’d be sure to read it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/handys-drive-by-posting-just-stop-already/78630.md?page=7)