# Hanging would be too good for these fuckers. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 6, 2002, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hanging-would-be-too-good-for-these-fuckers/112682 "2002-06-06T15:29:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2002, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hanging-would-be-too-good-for-these-fuckers/112682/21 "2002-06-07T11:50:42Z")
Look folks, I am the LAST person to be defending the ‘inalienable’ rights of bloody teenagers. I’ve seen a gut-ful of their immaturity and bullshit, enough to last me a thousand lifetimes… HOWEVER, I DON’T think that their irresponsibility necessarily deserves the death penalty… They’re fucking KIDS, OK, and as I said in my previous posts, it was just a lot of luck that many of us didn’t get nabbed for the same crimes when we were the same age. ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2002, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hanging-would-be-too-good-for-these-fuckers/112682/22 "2002-06-07T11:56:34Z")
A 30 lb weight … that’s roughly two shots (as in, the shot put). I’ve thrown the high school weight. It’s around 14 lbs, IIRC (I think I got it all of 20 feet). Having one of those things hit me when I was laying down was painful enough. But the equivalent of TWO? At highway speeds? There was an episode of some scifi show wherein the guilty of a crime had to relive the whole thing from the POV of the victim. Sounds decently fitting to me. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2002, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hanging-would-be-too-good-for-these-fuckers/112682/23 "2002-06-07T13:26:55Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by kambuckta \* > \*\*They’re fucking KIDS, \*\* You sound a little too sure of that…Nobody mentioned the perp’s ages. ---
**Author:** ![Squish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8797f3/32.png) [@Squish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squish)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2002, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hanging-would-be-too-good-for-these-fuckers/112682/24 "2002-06-07T14:53:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by kambuckta \* > **I’m a mum now of teenagers who are dabbling in the same sorts of mischief that I did when I was their age.** And you’re not preventing them?! WTF? I was **raised** by my parents; I wasn’t allowed to simply **grow**. Geezus H. Kee-rist on horseback… Gosh, you can only hope that your kids never murder anyone? :rolleyes: Wantonly and randomly murdering someone is not simply mischief; it shows a total disregard for human life and for human society. Allow this sort of thing to go unpunished or lightly punished, and more sociopathic idiots are going to murder more people. ---
**Author:** ![Mac\_Guffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Mac\_Guffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mac_Guffin)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2002, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hanging-would-be-too-good-for-these-fuckers/112682/25 "2002-06-07T19:27:25Z")
So the perps like throwing things off bridges? I say we throw them off a bridge… This bridge—\> [http://www.royalgorgebridge.com/](http://www.royalgorgebridge.com/) It’s a lllllooonnng way to the bottom… ---
**Author:** ![Squish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8797f3/32.png) [@Squish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squish)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2002, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hanging-would-be-too-good-for-these-fuckers/112682/26 "2002-06-07T22:18:04Z")
Excellent idea, **particlewill**! LOL! ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2002, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hanging-would-be-too-good-for-these-fuckers/112682/27 "2002-06-07T23:28:01Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by kambuckta \* > \*\* > They’re fucking KIDS, OK, and as I said in my previous posts, it was just a lot of luck that many of us didn’t get nabbed for the same crimes when we were the same age. \*\* Um. I think that you are **seriously** overestimating the delinquency of the average teen. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2002, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hanging-would-be-too-good-for-these-fuckers/112682/28 "2002-06-08T00:00:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by kambuckta \* > \*\*They’re fucking KIDS, OK, and as I said in my previous posts, it was just a lot of luck that many of us didn’t get nabbed for the same crimes when we were the same age. \*\* Are you fucking out of your _skull?_ I _never, never, **ever** _ did _anything_ even as remotely as dangerous and stupid as throwing a fucking _boulder_ off an overpass into speeding traffic. Neither did any of my friends. Are you saying _you **did?** _ And that the only reason you didn’t _kill_ somebody is that you were _ **lucky?** _ Jesus Scrotumsucking Christ. If you _had_ managed to kill somebody, I guarantee you’d be the subject of a similar rant, and you’d getting as much sympathy as the assgaskets in this sad little tale – and deserving of far less. Words fail me. ---
**Author:** ![Com2Kid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@Com2Kid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Com2Kid)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2002, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hanging-would-be-too-good-for-these-fuckers/112682/29 "2002-06-08T02:27:13Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by kambuckta \* > \*\* > They’re fucking KIDS, OK, and as I said in my previous posts, it was just a lot of luck that many of us didn’t get nabbed for the same crimes when we were the same age. \*\* I am all for retroactive punishment for nonrepentent offenders. I say that we take the butterfucks who DID do that kind of shit as a kid and hang THEM as well. Keep them from raising mini-sociopaths of their own. Yeesh. And I thought _I_ was a nutcase!!! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2002, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hanging-would-be-too-good-for-these-fuckers/112682/30 "2002-06-08T02:37:47Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by kambuckta \*They’re fucking KIDS, OK, and as I said in my previous posts, it was just a lot of luck that many of us didn’t get nabbed for the same crimes when we were the same age. Quick show of hands here … who, as a child/juvenile shoved a big fuckin’ rock off a bridge and killed a man? \<\\> 's what I thought… ---
**Author:** ![Com2Kid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@Com2Kid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Com2Kid)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2002, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hanging-would-be-too-good-for-these-fuckers/112682/31 "2002-06-08T02:55:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by iampunha \* > \*\* > > Quick show of hands here … who, as a child/juvenile shoved a big fuckin’ rock off a bridge and killed a man? > > \<\\> > > 's what I thought… \*\* Hell, who here shoved boulders off of bridges and DIDN’T kill anybody? (and no the throwing them into the lake/river doesn’t count, though throw them into the lake/river at people/boats or when there was a boat race going on will still win you a fucknugget award) Either way; What’s wrong tis wrong. After the age of, err, oh, say **NINE** or so, most kids; wait; fuck it. **MY THREE YEAR OLD NEPHEW KNOWS BETTER THEN TO THROW SHIT AT PEOPLE**. Yeesh. ---
**Author:** ![Com2Kid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@Com2Kid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Com2Kid)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2002, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hanging-would-be-too-good-for-these-fuckers/112682/32 "2002-06-08T02:56:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Com2Kid \* > \*\* > **MY THREE YEAR OLD NEPHEW KNOWS BETTER THEN TO THROW SHIT AT PEOPLE**. > > Yeesh. \*\* Wait, realized talking about a three year old, some might misinterpet that. shit is used as a generic explitive, not in the literal sense. 🙂 just cuz I know somebody would make the joke ---
**Author:** ![PhiloVance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e19adc/32.png) [@PhiloVance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhiloVance)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2002, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hanging-would-be-too-good-for-these-fuckers/112682/33 "2002-06-08T03:05:47Z")
We don’t know if they’re kids or not. What they did was inexcuseable, and they should be prosecuted (when caught) according to the laws of the state/province where it happened. Saying things like hanging, throwing off bridges and boiling in oil as a punishment is a little over the top, but then this is the pit and this is the place for things like that. ---
**Author:** ![Squish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8797f3/32.png) [@Squish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squish)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2002, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hanging-would-be-too-good-for-these-fuckers/112682/34 "2002-06-08T03:30:14Z")
From my earliest recollections, my parents taught me simple stuff like, “Don’t throw things,” “Don’t hit,” and “If its not yours, don’t touch it.” These teachings were backed up by appropriate punishments (usually ‘The Look’ and a lecture, but sometimes a swat if needed). ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2002, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hanging-would-be-too-good-for-these-fuckers/112682/35 "2002-06-10T01:42:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by kambuckta \* > \*\*I guess the point I’m trying to make is that teenagers DO fuck up, as much as we as adults try to prevent it, but do we want to see them DIE or be imprisoned for life because of their stupid actions? [selfish motives] I must admit there are a couple of kids I WOULD like to see behind bars for the next 20 or so years, but only because they then would not be a bad influence on MY kids![/selfish motives] > \*\* NIMBY, eh? ( **N** ot **I** n **M** y **B** ack **Y** ard) You want to screen who your kids hang out with, and imprison **those** children **before** they do a crime. But if **your** kids caused someone else’s death, you’d want them to get a slap on the wrist because “they’re just kids”? Please correct me if I have it wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2002, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hanging-would-be-too-good-for-these-fuckers/112682/36 "2002-06-10T02:52:44Z")
Forgive the double post. (Yes, I **do** think a double post is worthy of forgiveness.) ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2002, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hanging-would-be-too-good-for-these-fuckers/112682/37 "2002-06-10T03:10:07Z")
**Rilchiam** said > [@](#): > > Please correct me if I have it wrong. You have it wrong. Taking **kambuckta’s** words/sentiments as literal is probably a mistake. Did you not follow what she/he said in the thread. I doubt, seriously, that she/he wants those miscreants who influence her/his kids behind bars for the next 20 years. I have a 15 year old who has friends that I wish would go away. I have probably said things similar. They are not nice kids. Some of them will wind up in jail. Some, hopefully, won’t. > [@](#): > > But if your kids caused someone else’s death, you’d want them to get a slap on the wrist because “they’re just kids”? Please. Get over your anger. It doesn’t serve you well. ---
**Author:** ![Caffeine.addict](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f475e1/32.png) [@Caffeine.addict](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caffeine.addict)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2002, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hanging-would-be-too-good-for-these-fuckers/112682/38 "2002-06-10T04:31:14Z")
Before we start accusing Kambuckta and her children of doing anything this heinous, maybe we should hold off until she comes back and replies. I’m sure she meant the usual teenage stuff such as T-P ing a neighbor’s lawn or something to that effect. When I was a teenager, I did some minor stupid shit like that, and some other very minor pranks here and there, but I never did anything that might knowingly put someone else at risk of bodily harm. That being said, I believe that the perpetrators of this crime should be charged as adults and prosecuted for Murder. They should receive very long sentences and be kept away from the general populace. A long sentence is just the type of thing that is needed for this type of situation. They will be kept from doing worse things in the future and more importantly, this might make some other waste of breath realize that their actions do have consequences. ---
**Author:** ![Squish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8797f3/32.png) [@Squish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squish)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2002, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hanging-would-be-too-good-for-these-fuckers/112682/39 "2002-06-10T04:46:15Z")
Let’s review what she said: > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by kambuckta \* > \*\*Yep, they fucked-up, but, hey Feynn, didn’t YOU do anything completely stupid when you were a teenager? I did, and I thank god/allah/ whoever was the deity of the day that NOTHING serious happened. It could’ve. Easily. And while I feel for the family of Mr. Stanley, do you really thing that revenge against a bunch of dickhead adolescents is going to rectify things? Really? > > Sure they were dickwads. Sure they were arseholes 'cos they should have anticipated the consequences of their errant actions. But should they DIE for it? I dunno mate, sounds a bit dodgy to me! \*\* She’s admitting that she did things as a teenager that could have easily caused “something serious.” She is, IMO, shrugging off an intentionally malicious act that resulted in murder, and saying that the perpertrators should not face the death penalty for murder. > [@](#): > > **I’m a mum now of teenagers who are dabbling in the same sorts of mischief that I did when I was their age. THAT’S why I hope that the death sentence isn’t invoked for sheer adolescent stupidity.** Apparently her teenagers are “dabbling” in some SERIOUS “mischief” if she’s hoping the death sentence isn’t invoked. :rolleyes: > [@](#): > > **They’re fucking KIDS, OK, and as I said in my previous posts, it was just a lot of luck that many of us didn’t get nabbed for the same crimes when we were the same age.** For the same crimes? For intentionally throwing a 30-pound boulder off a freeway overpass/bridge into traffic and causing a man’s death?! The point most of us are trying to make is NO, WE DID NOT DO ANYTHING LIKE THIS. It sounds as if she, and her children, did. I’d really like some clarification before we hang her, but she is being hoist on her own petard, here. ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2002, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hanging-would-be-too-good-for-these-fuckers/112682/40 "2002-06-10T05:05:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by brujo \* > \*\*Before we start accusing Kambuckta and her children of doing anything this heinous, maybe we should hold off until she comes back and replies. I’m sure she meant the usual teenage stuff such as T-P ing a neighbor’s lawn or something to that effect. \*\* For the record, I never did anything like that, either. I think I may have drawn a smiley-face in the dust on someone’s windshield at some point, but that’s about it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hanging-would-be-too-good-for-these-fuckers/112682.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hanging-would-be-too-good-for-these-fuckers/112682.md?page=3)