# Hank Beecher's warnings and suspension are bullshit

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**Created:** [April 23, 2016, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hank-beechers-warnings-and-suspension-are-bullshit/752876 "2016-04-23T05:32:28Z")\
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**Post date:** [April 26, 2016, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hank-beechers-warnings-and-suspension-are-bullshit/752876/40 "2016-04-26T19:46:13Z")

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> [@bldysabba](#):
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> Still don’t see how it becomes a warnable offence, especially the way JC has called it out - as an insult to another poster.

Discussions of moderation belong in ATMB, not GD. There was no substantiation in the post whatsoever - it just criticized the moderation using highly inflammatory language in an inappropriate forum. (To be fair Beecher made 3 posts in a row - the first two had _some_ content (ATMB stuff in GD), but the last was just jerkitude.) I have no problem with curbing that sort of behavior. I could easily see it receiving a mod note in the Pit.

“You are making stuff up”, I concede is a borderline case and is context-dependent. Bone helpfully links to Jon Chance’s remarks on that. I’ll quote:

> [@Is accusing someone of "making stuff" up no longer considered an accusation of lying?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-accusing-someone-of-making-stuff-up-no-longer-considered-an-accusation-of-lying/725748/10):
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> Not necessarily. Again, context is extremely important.
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> As I have defined it for myself - and not for other mods - the lying rule may come into play when two conditions are present:
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> 1. A poster accuses another of speaking untruth.
> 2. The accusation also assumes that such is done so knowingly
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> Once again, however, I don’t feel the need to be locked into things as context is everything.
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> “You’re a liar” will almost certainly bring about sanction - though not always. Other forms, such as ‘you’re making things up’ as mentioned, may or may not depending on many factors.
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> Best practice? Don’t accuse others of intentional fabrication. This should not be difficult, I’d imagine.

Mods don’t hold posters to best practices _per se_, but it’s a bar that good posters aim for, though they may fall short.

Now if you excuse me, I have a re-education camp to run.

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