# Happy Birthday to Sir Paul! and a question... **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 18, 2014, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-birthday-to-sir-paul-and-a-question/691071 "2014-06-18T15:55:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-birthday-to-sir-paul-and-a-question/691071/21 "2014-06-20T00:48:04Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Ringo: The other one. > [@Ranger\_Jeff](#): > > Stu Sutcliff: The Dead One. John, Paul, George and Ringo: The cheeky ones. ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-birthday-to-sir-paul-and-a-question/691071/22 "2014-06-20T01:27:38Z")
> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#): > > I don’t think anyone said the man was perfect. This seems like a weirdly gratuitous response to remarks about Lennon’s sense of humor. I agree, since the OP was about how they were known, back then. It wasn’t till well after the Beatles had broken up that his viciousness became known. At least to people who referred them to the ‘cute’, ‘quiet’, etc… ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-birthday-to-sir-paul-and-a-question/691071/23 "2014-06-20T01:30:25Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > According to [TV Tropes](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BoyBand), the five types are “The Sweet one”, “The Bad Boy”, “The Clown”, “The Cute One,” “The Shy/Quiet One” and “The Older Brother.” > > So Paul is the cute one and George is the Shy one. Then, I’d probably make Ringo the Clown and John the bad boy. I could see someone arguing that John is the Clown, but then I’m not sure where to put Ringo–older brother maybe, since he’s so innocuous? > > I guess it’s hard because they predate the boy bands, and thus don’t so easily fit into the stereotypes. They weren’t designed like most boy bands. They weren’t ever a boy band. George was 'the Quiet one". The TV Tropes thing doesn’t fit them. ---
**Author:** ![Pai325](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Pai325](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pai325)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-birthday-to-sir-paul-and-a-question/691071/24 "2014-06-20T01:31:18Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > According to [TV Tropes](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BoyBand), the five types are “The Sweet one”, “The Bad Boy”, “The Clown”, “The Cute One,” “The Shy/Quiet One” and “The Older Brother.” > > So Paul is the cute one and George is the Shy one. Then, I’d probably make Ringo the Clown and John the bad boy. I could see someone arguing that John is the Clown, but then I’m not sure where to put Ringo–older brother maybe, since he’s so innocuous? > > I guess it’s hard because they predate the boy bands, and thus don’t so easily fit into the stereotypes. They weren’t designed like most boy bands. John may have been the bad boy in the Beatles, but the Beatles and the Dave Clark 5 seemed to be thought of as the nice ones compared to the rough and scruffy Rolling Stones. I can’t believe it’s been over 50 years since they were on Ed Sullivan. ---
**Author:** ![DChord568](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@DChord568](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DChord568)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-birthday-to-sir-paul-and-a-question/691071/25 "2014-06-20T02:32:12Z")
> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#): > > In examining his lyrics, I think we would all do well to remember that Lennon was often full of shit. I worship him on one level and think he was perhaps a musical genius, but he’s generally given way too much credit as a thinker. > > Also, “No one I see can be in my tree”??? Not sure if your question marks are aimed at the lyrics…or at the poster for misquoting them, but in fact, she did. The correct lyrics are in her post…in a quote from another source. John Lennon could be absolutely brilliant, but could be full of shit at times too. It’s probably good to remember that when he was, there was a lot if it about from other sources. In any case, “Strawberry Fields Forever” was not one of those times. IMHO it’s one of the most remarkable achievements in all of rock. ---
**Author:** ![Reeses\_Monkey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reeses_monkey/32/2885_2.png) [@Reeses\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeses_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-birthday-to-sir-paul-and-a-question/691071/26 "2014-06-20T02:50:21Z")
> [@Becky2844](#): > > From memory so(?): “I sat benumbly 'neath a tree, humble fat and small…” I sat belonely down a tree Humbled fat and small A little lady sing to me I couldn’t see at all Grew up reading this. My mom gave me her 1967 paperback of In His Own Write and A Spaniard in the Works for Christmas last year. My favorite is “The Fat Budgie.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-birthday-to-sir-paul-and-a-question/691071.md?page=1)