# Happy Canada Day! Canadian trivia test **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [July 1, 2003, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-canada-day-canadian-trivia-test/185624 "2003-07-01T18:18:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2003, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-canada-day-canadian-trivia-test/185624/21 "2003-07-02T03:33:33Z")
I am totally humiliated by the quiz. I should have known at least what the best-selling book was. (I know where it is set. Does that count?) And I knew one other answer. That’s it. ☹ Slumping in my chair… ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2003, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-canada-day-canadian-trivia-test/185624/22 "2003-07-02T04:10:15Z")
Remaining questions not correctly answered: 16) What are Kim Campbell’s real given names? 1. Which major cities are located at either end of the Saint Lawrence Seaway? (Remember, “seaway” does not mean “river”; the seaway is a civil engineering work, not a natural feature. Some people take the word “seaway” to be the translation of “fleuve”; it’s not. French for seaway is “voie maritime”.) 2. What is the English title of the novel _Bonheur d’occasion_? (I have to say I’m impressed by the number of Anglophones who didn’t get this one because they read it in French.) 3. In which province or territory are Kuujjuaq, Inukjuaq, and Kangiqsualujjuaq located? 4. What was Canada’s first international bestselling book? 5. What is Quebec’s provincial flower? (The heraldic fleur-de-lis is the provincial _symbol_, but not being a flower, it’s not the provincial flower.) 6. Which province’s motto is Splendor sine occasu (splendour without diminishment)? ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2003, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-canada-day-canadian-trivia-test/185624/23 "2003-07-02T04:40:43Z")
Sorry, **Rick** , I still disagree. Army unit organization doesn’t mean that there’s a separate country. That’s just an internal administrative matter of army structure. Canada did not have international recognition as a country at that time, as the automatic entry into the war showed. It was not a separate belligerant. Nor did it have independent status in the war planning (Borden sat on the Imperial War Cabinet, but that was at the decision of the British government.) The Canadian Army units fought as a unit, yes, but under the control of General Byng (who became [Baron Byng of Vimy](http://www.gg.ca/governor_general/history/bios/byng_e.asp) as a result). Nor did Canada sign the Versailles Treaty as a separate country, but as a consituent part of the British Empire. After all, there were Canadian units in the Boer War, like the Lord Strathcona’s Horse, but they fought under the control of the British. The only difference on this point was in the scale: much larger units in WWI, but still listed as Imperial troops, under British control. ---
**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2003, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-canada-day-canadian-trivia-test/185624/24 "2003-07-02T12:23:58Z")
Toronto was once called York. I did not know that. Thanks **NP**! ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2003, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-canada-day-canadian-trivia-test/185624/25 "2003-07-02T14:21:44Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Northern Piper \* > **Canada did not have international recognition as a country at that time, as the automatic entry into the war showed. It was not a separate belligerant. Nor did it have independent status in the war planning (Borden sat on the Imperial War Cabinet, but that was at the decision of the British government.) The Canadian Army units fought as a unit, yes, but under the control of General Byng (who became [Baron Byng of Vimy](http://www.gg.ca/governor_general/history/bios/byng_e.asp) as a result). Nor did Canada sign the Versailles Treaty as a separate country, but as a consituent part of the British Empire.** Canada also deferred in war planning during WWII, its units were all under British groups and were ultimately commanded by an American - I mean, you can make every argument all over again. The RCAF didn’t operate independently in WWII. The only distinction is the Constitutional convention by which war was declared. The fact remains that Canadian troops were fighting as part of the Canadian army. Canada very consciously, on its own, determined its level of involvement - it would have been very easy for Canada to send only a nominal force had the government and populace so desired. The country had its own independently managed home war effort. Making a constitutional distinction doesn’t change the fact that **Canada took part in the war as a country.** As to Canada’s lack of international recognition as a country, I guess it again depends how you distinguish “recognition” from the legalities. Had you asked someone in the United States or Germany, I have no illusions they would have considered Canada a country. A COUNTRY isn’t the same concept as a STATE. ---
**Author:** ![Wearia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/13edae/32.png) [@Wearia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wearia)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2003, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-canada-day-canadian-trivia-test/185624/26 "2003-07-02T19:18:02Z")
32 still hasn’t been answered correctly.😛 ---
**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2003, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-canada-day-canadian-trivia-test/185624/27 "2003-07-02T20:16:22Z")
On the radio here in Las Vegas on Canada Day, a taxi driver called in and said, “What is the difference between a Canadian and a Canoe?” A canoe tips. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2003, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-canada-day-canadian-trivia-test/185624/28 "2003-07-02T20:42:37Z")
Canoes only tip if you’re a stand-up sort of guy. I’m not sure I see the difference. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Flamsterette\_X](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/41988e/32.png) [@Flamsterette\_X](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flamsterette_X)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2003, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-canada-day-canadian-trivia-test/185624/29 "2003-07-02T23:27:41Z")
1. I think one of Kim Campbell’s given names is Avril… not sure about the rest of it, though. F\_X ---
**Author:** ![Hamish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a5b964/32.png) [@Hamish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamish)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2003, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-canada-day-canadian-trivia-test/185624/30 "2003-07-02T23:37:32Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by DMark \* > \*\*On the radio here in Las Vegas on Canada Day, a taxi driver called in and said, “What is the difference between a Canadian and a Canoe?” > > A canoe tips. \*\* Well, **I** usually give 20-25%. ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2003, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-canada-day-canadian-trivia-test/185624/31 "2003-07-02T23:49:05Z")
That was me. But **Hamish** tips well too. ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-canada-day-canadian-trivia-test/185624/32 "2003-07-03T03:28:08Z")
Here are another few: 1. What are Cape Spear, Newfoundland; Middle Island, Ontario; Cape Columbia, Nunavut; and Mount Saint Elias, Yukon? (think carefully…) 2. What interesting geographical item is located near Arviat, Nunavut? 3. …and Casba Lake, Northwest Territories? ---
**Author:** ![Nvme77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c89c15/32.png) [@Nvme77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nvme77)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-canada-day-canadian-trivia-test/185624/33 "2003-07-03T04:11:55Z")
umm, cheese? ---
**Author:** ![Ms\_Macphisto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b487fb/32.png) [@Ms\_Macphisto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ms_Macphisto)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-canada-day-canadian-trivia-test/185624/34 "2003-07-03T04:29:00Z")
Wow, all of these questions are hard. 1. Avril rings a bell here too, but I can’t think of the rest. Do I get bonus points for having been in the school band that played O Canada for Kim Campbell when she came to visit my high school during the '93 election campaign? Guessing for 38: respectively, the furthest east, south, north and west points in the country? As for the rest, I think this shows I’m insufficiently Canadian, but I don’t care because we got the Olympics! You can all come join the party in 7 years. ---
**Author:** ![Drabble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8491ac/32.png) [@Drabble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drabble)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-canada-day-canadian-trivia-test/185624/35 "2003-07-03T05:52:01Z")
I’m canadian, and too tired from watching fireworks last night to even attempt all but one of the questions, but that one was answered early on! I don’t feel very Canadian when I can’t answer hardly a single one of those questions :eek: ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-canada-day-canadian-trivia-test/185624/36 "2003-07-03T06:00:42Z")
JulKatBo: re 38, not quite! ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2003, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-canada-day-canadian-trivia-test/185624/37 "2003-07-04T03:11:19Z")
39 Magnetic North Pole? ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2003, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-canada-day-canadian-trivia-test/185624/38 "2003-07-04T03:16:55Z")
39 Magnetic North Pole? ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2003, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-canada-day-canadian-trivia-test/185624/39 "2003-07-04T04:01:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by RickJay \* > \*\*The fact remains that Canadian troops were fighting as part of the Canadian army. Canada very consciously, on its own, determined its level of involvement - it would have been very easy for Canada to send only a nominal force had the government and populace so desired. The country had its own independently managed home war effort. Making a constitutional distinction doesn’t change the fact that **Canada took part in the war as a country.** > > As to Canada’s lack of international recognition as a country, I guess it again depends how you distinguish “recognition” from the legalities. Had you asked someone in the United States or Germany, I have no illusions they would have considered Canada a country. A COUNTRY isn’t the same concept as a STATE. \*\* But **Rick** , then why doesn’t the Boer War count as Canada’s first war as a country? The same comments can be made:[ul][li]automatically at war with the Boer Republics when Britain declared war;[/li] [li]no requirement that Canada actually send troops, but decision made in Canada to do so;[/li] [li]troops organised into Canadian units (e.g. - [Royal Canadian Regiment](http://www.army.dnd.ca/1RCR/1rcr/rcr_history_e.htm); [Lord Strathcona’s Horse (Royal Canadians)](http://www.strathconas.ca/History/history.html);[/li] [li] units under tactical command of Canadian officers (Sir Sam Steele for the [Strathconas](http://www.strathconas.ca/History/history.html); Lt. Col. Otter for the [Royal Canadian](http://www.fortsteele.bc.ca/exhibits/boar/main/index.asp)), but under the overall command of the British Army;[/li] [li] significant number of Canadians served in the war (around [8300, with 242 killed](http://www.carleton.ca/Capital_News/26031999/n5.htm)).[/ul][/li]I don’t see much difference between Canada’s involvement in the Boer War compared to the Great War. Nor, even assuming that other countries saw Canada as a country (an assumption I think needs something to back up; I’m not sure that I would agree with it, based on my reading about the late imperial age), I don’t see why Canada would be considered a country in 1914, but not in 1900. ---
**Author:** ![jovan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/0ea827/32.png) [@jovan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jovan)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2003, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-canada-day-canadian-trivia-test/185624/40 "2003-07-04T13:23:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by matt\_mcl \* > \*\*22) In which province or territory are Kuujjuaq, Inukjuaq, and Kangiqsualujjuaq located? \*\* Quebec! Kuujjuaq used to be called Fort Chimo. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-canada-day-canadian-trivia-test/185624.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-canada-day-canadian-trivia-test/185624.md?page=3)