# Happy now Clothahump?

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [January 4, 2006, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312 "2006-01-04T00:50:35Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![CBEscapee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@CBEscapee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CBEscapee)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2006, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/181 "2006-01-06T03:09:08Z")

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> [@Q.E.D.](#):
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> Unless you feel it’s appropriate and respectful for us to call you “wetbacks”, I suggest you quit using this term. No one here has called your people racist terms; the least you could do is behave in kind. You’re not helping your case with talk like that.

You mean like this: [Operation Wetback](http://www.pbs.org/kpbs/theborder/history/timeline/20.html)

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### Author: ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2006, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/182 "2006-01-06T03:12:00Z")

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> [@CBEscapee](#):
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> And gringos wonder why they’re disliked in much of the world!

I think most people in the world would much rather get pulled over by an American cop than a Mexican cop.

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### Author: ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2006, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/183 "2006-01-06T03:15:58Z")

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> [@CBEscapee](#):
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> You mean like this: [Operation Wetback](http://www.pbs.org/kpbs/theborder/history/timeline/20.html)

That was 53 years ago. No one in _this thread_ has used any racist terms to describe your countrymen. All I’m asking is for the same level of respect we’ve demonstrated.

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### Author: ![Updike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ec9cab/32.png) [@Updike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Updike)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2006, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/184 "2006-01-06T03:20:52Z")

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> [@Q.E.D.](#):
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> That was 53 years ago. No one in _this thread_ has used any racist terms to describe your countrymen. All I’m asking is for the same level of respect we’ve demonstrated.

What he said.

You must no longer have a point, if you’ve reduced yourself to mindless name-calling.

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### Author: ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2006, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/185 "2006-01-06T03:24:23Z")

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> [@CBEscapee](#):
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> Yep that’s the spin the Border Patrol, who like law enforcement agencies everywhere have been known to lie to cover their asses, is using and of course blind people like you slop it up like the Gospel.

Newsflash! Newsflash! The United States Border Patrol is not–repeat–is not Mexican police.

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### Author: ![Updike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ec9cab/32.png) [@Updike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Updike)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2006, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/186 "2006-01-06T03:26:35Z")

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> [@Updike](#):
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> What he said.
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> You must no longer have a point, if you’ve reduced yourself to mindless name-calling.

Just to be clear, my post was directed at CBEscapee, not **Q.E.D.**.

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### Author: ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2006, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/187 "2006-01-06T03:28:47Z")

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> [@CBEscapee](#):
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> You mean like this: [Operation Wetback](http://www.pbs.org/kpbs/theborder/history/timeline/20.html)

Your Posts are getting dumber by the minute.

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### Author: ![CBEscapee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@CBEscapee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CBEscapee)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2006, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/188 "2006-01-06T03:28:50Z")

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> [@Q.E.D.](#):
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> That was 53 years ago. No one in _this thread_ has used any racist terms to describe your countrymen. All I’m asking is for the same level of respect we’ve demonstrated.

And that is exactly why I started this pit thread. Unless you call Clothalump’s statement in my OP demonstrating respect for fellow human beings.

To refresh your memories:

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> We need to go exactly the opposite direction: we need to slam the border shut, round up and run out the illegals that are here, and keep them out. That includes putting armed guards on the border and **shooting folks** until they get the message. It’s a hard line, but it needs to be done.

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### Author: ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2006, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/189 "2006-01-06T03:35:03Z")

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And how, exactly, does that negate the alleged felonious misconduct of assault with a deadly weapon on a law enforcement officer?

BTW, I asked you two questions upthread about Mexican law. Do you have an answer to them?

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### Author: ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2006, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/190 "2006-01-06T03:37:11Z")

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> [@CBEscapee](#):
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> And that is exactly why I started this pit thread. Unless you call Clothalump’s statement in my OP demonstrating respect for fellow human beings.

A tough stance, indeed, and hardly the epitome of respect. However, since he clearly didn’t say “shooting wetbacks”, I fail to see how you’ve addressed the issue of racist remarks on your part. Hmm?

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### Author: ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2006, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/191 "2006-01-06T03:42:33Z")

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> [@CBEscapee](#):
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> And that is exactly why I started this pit thread. Unless you call Clothalump’s statement in my OP demonstrating respect for fellow human beings.
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> To refresh your memories:

That was not in this thread. I also don’t see where \*\*Cloth \*\* resort to racial slurs.

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### Author: ![CBEscapee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@CBEscapee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CBEscapee)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2006, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/192 "2006-01-06T03:47:57Z")

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> [@Q.E.D.](#):
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> A tough stance, indeed, and hardly the epitome of respect. However, since he clearly didn’t say “shooting wetbacks”, I fail to see how you’ve addressed the issue of racist remarks on your part. Hmm?

Calling for the cold blooded murder of people from certain ethnic groups isn’t enough? He needed to have added a spoken insult?

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### Author: ![CBEscapee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@CBEscapee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CBEscapee)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2006, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/193 "2006-01-06T03:49:34Z")

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> [@jrfranchi](#):
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> That was not in this thread. I also don’t see where \*\*Cloth \*\* resort to racial slurs.

It’s in my first post.

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### Author: ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2006, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/194 "2006-01-06T03:55:20Z")

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> [@CBEscapee](#):
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> Calling for the cold blooded murder of people from certain ethnic groups isn’t enough? He needed to have added a spoken insult?

I’m talking about YOU, idiot. HE never called anybody a racist name, regardless of what you think of his post. YOU did. Several times. And thus far, you’re the ONLY one.

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### Author: ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2006, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/195 "2006-01-06T03:57:38Z")

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> [@CBEscapee](#):
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> It’s in my first post.

You started with a problem with one poster, you seem to be trying to expand it to many posters. You are insulting many of us.

If you had presented a better argument, many of us would have sided with you. Instead you use one foolish young man.  
I can tell you from past experience that very many people in this thread giving you a hard time have jump on \*\*Clothahump \*\* for making statements that were seen as outrageous. It has happen many times, just ask him.

Good Night and Good Luck  
Jim

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### Author: ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2006, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/196 "2006-01-06T03:58:09Z")

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> [@CBEscapee](#):
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> It’s in my first post.

No, it is not. Unless you consider “folks” to be racist?

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### Author: ![CBEscapee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@CBEscapee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CBEscapee)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2006, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/197 "2006-01-06T04:04:17Z")

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> [@Q.E.D.](#):
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> No, it is not. Unless you consider “folks” to be racist?

Listen moron, he was talking about shooting Mexicans. I give a flying fuck how what term he chooses to use.

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### Author: ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2006, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/198 "2006-01-06T04:10:20Z")

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> [@CBEscapee](#):
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> Listen moron, he was talking about shooting Mexicans. I give a flying fuck how what term he chooses to use.

Actually, he was talking about ANYONE trying to enter the countery illegally. This includes Mexicans, Canadians, Puerto Ricans, Germans, Chinese, Indians and anyone else you can think of. You’re the only one being racist in this thread, and until you address this, I see no reason to continue this discussion with you.

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### Author: ![CBEscapee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@CBEscapee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CBEscapee)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2006, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/199 "2006-01-06T04:11:44Z")

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> [@Q.E.D.](#):
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> Actually, he was talking about ANYONE trying to enter the countery illegally. This includes Mexicans, Canadians, Puerto Ricans, Germans, Chinese, Indians and anyone else you can think of. You’re the only one being racist in this thread, and until you address this, I see no reason to continue this discussion with you.

You’re fucking lame.

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### Author: ![CBEscapee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@CBEscapee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CBEscapee)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2006, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/200 "2006-01-06T04:24:18Z")

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I don’t know how to link to a specific post in another thread or I’d show you Clothalump’s post. But here is his post #71 on the Annex Mexico thread:

> [@](#):
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> **All those impoverished Mexicans coming here would bankrupt the US!**

"Absolutely correct. They are doing it now.

Your assumption that elimination of the border would somehow magically stop this from happening is seriously flawed. We need to go exactly the opposite direction: we need to slam the border shut, round up and run out the illegals that are here, and keep them out. That includes putting armed guards on the border and shooting folks until they get the message. It’s a hard line, but it needs to be done."

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