# Happy now Clothahump?
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [January 4, 2006, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312 "2006-01-04T00:50:35Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@AFAIKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AFAIKnow)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2006, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/201 "2006-01-06T04:27:23Z")
> [@Q.E.D.](#):
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> I’m talking about YOU, idiot. HE never called anybody a racist name, regardless of what you think of his post. YOU did. Several times. And thus far, you’re the ONLY one.
Don’t bother. I called him on it back on the first page and he has used the term twice since.
> [@CBEscapee](#):
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> Yep that’s the spin the Border Patrol, who like law enforcement agencies everywhere have been known to lie to cover their asses, is using and of course blind people like you slop it up like the Gospel.
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> His young widow was interviewed in their hovel in Tijuana, hardly the digs a well compensated pollero would be inhabiting. And please explain how law enforcement in the great US of A could arrest someone 11 times for alien smuggling and he is released everytime? Homeland Security is a fucking farce. You cry about the porous border and the threat it is for terrorism and you let someone go 11 times?? What a joke.
Hey, dipshit. 1.2 million people were apprehended crossing the border illegally last year alone. That’s almost as many people we have incarcerated in our entire country of 300 million. The joke is the Mexican government who gives lip service to mutual border security while they let anyone cross their border into ours with impunity and make the US do all of the work. Just think, criminals are your second largest source of foriegn income. Gotta be proud of that.
And I got news for you, if you don’t like the fact that we let our law enforcement protect themselves from assault, then stay the fuck out.
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### Author:  [@CBEscapee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CBEscapee)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2006, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/202 "2006-01-06T04:32:13Z")
> [@AFAIKnow](#):
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> And I got news for you, if you don’t like the fact that we let our law enforcement protect themselves from assault, then stay the fuck out.
Don’t worry about me asshole. I have no fucking desire to spend even one minute inyour fucked up country.
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### Author:  [@Updike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Updike)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2006, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/203 "2006-01-06T04:38:17Z")
> [@CBEscapee](#):
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> Don’t worry about me asshole. I have no fucking desire to spend even one minute inyour fucked up country.
Then why are you investing so much time and energy criticizing it?
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### Author:  [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2006, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/204 "2006-01-06T04:45:40Z")
And, yet, absolutely none of that has anything at all to do with (a) a felonious assault with a deadly weapon on an American law enforcement official, (b) what the equivalent law is in Mexico for assualting a law enforcement official with a deadly weapon is, © if Mexican law also considers a rock or similar projectile to be a deadly weapon, and (d) your use of a racist term in this thread.
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### Author:  [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2006, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/205 "2006-01-06T04:46:54Z")
> [@CBEscapee](#):
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> Don’t worry about me asshole. I have no fucking desire to spend even one minute inyour fucked up country.
Now, are you sure you want to be comparing countries on that particular scale?
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### Author:  [@CBEscapee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CBEscapee)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2006, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/206 "2006-01-06T04:51:17Z")
> [@Monty](#):
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> And, yet, absolutely none of that has anything at all to do with (a) a felonious assault with a deadly weapon on an American law enforcement official, (b) what the equivalent law is in Mexico for assualting a law enforcement official with a deadly weapon is, (c) if Mexican law also considers a rock or similar projectile to be a deadly weapon, and (d) your use of a racist term in this thread.
Show me the definition of gringo and how it is a racist term.
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### Author:  [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2006, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/207 "2006-01-06T04:54:34Z")
[Gringo](http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=gringo):
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> _gringo_ - Word History: In Latin America the word gringo is an offensive term for a foreigner, particularly an American or English person.
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### Author:  [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2006, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/208 "2006-01-06T05:01:22Z")
> [@CBEscapee](#):
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> And gringos wonder why they’re disliked in much of the world!
Hey, you are the one who pointed out that we just slapped him on the wrist 11 times and sent him on his way. That’s pretty fucking humane. It makes it all the more stupid on his part to confront the Border Patrol at ALL. He knew nothing would come of it, he had 11 prior experiences of it coming to nothing.
So go ahead and criticize the 11 times we let him go before, 11 chances to get a clue. He had 12 chances to go back home and chose to try a different approach.
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### Author:  [@CBEscapee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CBEscapee)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2006, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/209 "2006-01-06T05:01:49Z")
> [@Q.E.D.](#):
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> [Gringo](http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=gringo):
See, you use an English language dictionary to define a Spanish word.
Try using a Spanish definition.
Diccionario del español usual en México
gringo adj y s (Coloq) 1 Que es originario de los Estados Unidos de América, que pertenece a este país o se relaciona con él; estadounidense: tropas gringas, bancos gringos, moneda gringa, el equipo de los gringos, «Hay unos que siguen pasando la mariguana y los gringos la siguen fumando» 2 Que es rubio y habla una lengua extranjera 3 A la gringa Cada quien por su cuenta, cuando se va en grupo a un restaurante 4 Ojo de gringa (Popular) Billete de cincuenta pesos, cuando la tinta que se usaba en ellos era azul.
Or
Academia Mexicana de la Lengua
gringo, gringa. (De griego ‘extranjero; lenguaje incomprensible’.) adj., y m. y f. De los Estados Unidos de América, estadounidense. | en gringo. loc. En un lenguaje ininteligible.
Or from
Real Academia Española
gringo, ga.
(Etim. disc.).
1. adj. coloq. Extranjero, especialmente de habla inglesa, y en general hablante de una lengua que no sea la española. U. t. c. s.
2. adj. coloq. Dicho de una lengua: extranjera. U. t. c. s. m.
3. adj. Am. Mer., Cuba, El Salv., Hond. y Nic. estadounidense. Apl. a pers., u. t. c. s.
4. adj. Ur. inglés (ǁ natural de Inglaterra). U. t. c. s.
5. adj. Ur. ruso (ǁ natural de Rusia). U. t. c. s.
6. m. y f. Bol., Hond., Nic. y Perú. Persona rubia y de tez blanca.
7. m. coloq. Lenguaje ininteligible.
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### Author:  [@CBEscapee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CBEscapee)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2006, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/210 "2006-01-06T05:04:34Z")
> [@Duke of Rat](#):
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> Hey, you are the one who pointed out that we just slapped him on the wrist 11 times and sent him on his way. That’s pretty fucking humane. It makes it all the more stupid on his part to confront the Border Patrol at ALL. He knew nothing would come of it, he had 11 prior experiences of it coming to nothing.
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> So go ahead and criticize the 11 times we let him go before, 11 chances to get a clue. He had 12 chances to go back home and chose to try a different approach.
There has been no proof presented yet that this allegation is true. The Border Patrol’s spinmeisters are hard at work to portray the victim in the most unfavorable light.
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### Author:  [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2006, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/211 "2006-01-06T05:07:41Z")
> [@CBEscapee](#):
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> There has been no proof presented yet that this allegation is true. The Border Patrol’s spinmeisters are hard at work to portray the victim in the most unfavorable light.
No, but you used the statistic to make a point, I just tossed it back at you:
> [@CBEscapee](#):
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> . And please explain how law enforcement in the great US of A could arrest someone 11 times for alien smuggling and he is released everytime? Homeland Security is a fucking farce. You cry about the porous border and the threat it is for terrorism and you let someone go 11 times?? What a joke.
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### Author:  [@CBEscapee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CBEscapee)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2006, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/212 "2006-01-06T05:41:58Z")
> [@Duke of Rat](#):
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> No, but you used the statistic to make a point, I just tossed it back at you:
jajajajaja yeah right!
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### Author:  [@CBEscapee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CBEscapee)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2006, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/213 "2006-01-06T05:47:56Z")
> [@Monty](#):
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> Now, are you sure you want to be comparing countries on that particular scale?
Sure, no problem. I lived in the US and speak English fluently so I have first hand experience of both cultures. What are your qualifications for making a comparison?
Will your criticisms be quotes from American media sources or do you actually know anything about Mexico from first hand experience?
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### Author:  [@CBEscapee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CBEscapee)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2006, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/214 "2006-01-06T05:51:46Z")
The above should read “biased American media sources”
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### Author:  [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2006, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/215 "2006-01-06T06:00:19Z")
> [@CBEscapee](#):
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> See, you use an English language dictionary to define a Spanish word.
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> Try using a Spanish definition.
You know, it’s nice to see that the concept of dishonest asshole translates well. Why the FUCK would anyone—in an English-speaking thread—think that all of a sudden you’re going to drag out a _Spanish_ definition. I say you’re full of shit.
You clearly used a racist term and then you deny it. I say you are nothing but a liar.
Throught this thread you’ve made unsupportable claims, continually moved the goal posts, and now have flagrantly lied. I’d like to congratulate you though. Rarely have I seen someone wound themselves so conscientiously. It’ll take a great deal of delicate care from here if you are to ever be respected as participant on these boards—by me at any rate.
Not that you should care, me being a gringo and all.
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### Author:  [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2006, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/216 "2006-01-06T06:00:39Z")
(a) You used the offensive term in an English language posting on an English language message board. To assert that you are using that one word in its Spanish sense while the rest of the posting is used in its English sense is dishonest.
(b) I have actually been to Mexico. What I saw there did not impress me. I saw police officers in Tijuana “doing their job.” I saw them taking money from the parties to a traffic problem. I saw the blight that is Tijuana.
© I also am well-read. I enjoy reading newspapers from a number of countries. And I enjoy reading some of those papers which just so happen to be published in Spanish.
(d) I am not a racist and do not toss around racist words. I think it’s a disgusting and base action to do such a thing as it is demeaning.
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### Author:  [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2006, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/217 "2006-01-06T06:01:03Z")
(a) You used the offensive term in an English language posting on an English language message board. To assert that you are using that one word in its Spanish sense while the rest of the posting is used in its English sense is dishonest.
(b) I have actually been to Mexico. What I saw there did not impress me. I saw police officers in Tijuana “doing their job.” I saw them taking money from the parties to a traffic problem. I saw the blight that is Tijuana.
© I also am well-read. I enjoy reading newspapers from a number of countries. And I enjoy reading some of those papers which just so happen to be published in Spanish.
(d) I am not a racist and do not toss around racist words. I think it’s a disgusting and base action to do such a thing as it is demeaning.
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### Author:  [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2006, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/218 "2006-01-06T06:07:45Z")
Apologies for the double posting. If a mod feels so moved, feel free to delete one or the other. Thank you.
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### Author:  [@CBEscapee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CBEscapee)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2006, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/219 "2006-01-06T06:08:44Z")
> [@Monty](#):
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> (a) You used the offensive term in an English language posting on an English language message board. To assert that you are using that one word in its Spanish sense while the rest of the posting is used in its English sense is dishonest.
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> (b) I have actually been to Mexico. What I saw there did not impress me. I saw police officers in Tijuana “doing their job.” I saw them taking money from the parties to a traffic problem. I saw the blight that is Tijuana.
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> (c) I also am well-read. I enjoy reading newspapers from a number of countries. And I enjoy reading some of those papers which just so happen to be published in Spanish.
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> (d) I am not a racist and do not toss around racist words. I think it’s a disgusting and base action to do such a thing as it is demeaning.
It is absolutely not unfair for me to use the true definition of the word gringo. Your perception of the word is your problem. I use and hear the word daily and it is not the disparaging racial slur that you people choose to interpret.
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### Author:  [@CBEscapee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CBEscapee)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2006, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/220 "2006-01-06T06:11:48Z")
> [@magellan01](#):
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> You know, it’s nice to see that the concept of dishonest asshole translates well. Why the FUCK would anyone—in an English-speaking thread—think that all of a sudden you’re going to drag out a _Spanish_ definition. I say you’re full of shit.
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> You clearly used a racist term and then you deny it. I say you are nothing but a liar.
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> Throught this thread you’ve made unsupportable claims, continually moved the goal posts, and now have flagrantly lied. I’d like to congratulate you though. Rarely have I seen someone wound themselves so conscientiously. It’ll take a great deal of delicate care from here if you are to ever be respected as participant on these boards—by me at any rate.
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> Not that you should care, me being a gringo and all.
You’re 100% correct. I could care less what an asshole like you thinks of me.
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