# Happy now Clothahump?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 4, 2006, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312 "2006-01-04T00:50:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/301 "2006-01-06T21:51:52Z")

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CBEscapee: You have proven over and over again in this thread that you are a liar, a racist. Now you are proving that you are quite foolish. I’m done with you as I have much better things to do with my time than coddle those who delight in sheer ignorance.

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**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/302 "2006-01-06T21:53:00Z")

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> [@CBEscapee](#):
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> No it’s not a tie. YR started the racist comments here.

He was being facetious, not actually calling anybody a racist.

> [@Yeticus Rex](#):
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> Because he’s not “racist” like the BP officer, not “racist” like **Clothahump** , not “racist” like me…and certainly not “racist”…like you… :rolleyes:

That’s why he put " " around the term and even threw in a :rolleyes: for good measure, so anybody, no matter HOW stupid, would get his point.

I see he underestimated the stupidity he was up against.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/303 "2006-01-06T21:54:44Z")

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> [@Lord Ashtar](#):
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> Because you’re an ignorant gringo, **Clothahump**.
> 
> Duh.

:smack:

Thanks for pointing that out, **Ashtar**. I wrote that post forgetting that it was being addressed to **CBEscapee**. I thought I was writing to someone rational.

My bad.

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**Author:** ![CBEscapee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@CBEscapee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CBEscapee)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/304 "2006-01-06T21:56:37Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> CBEscapee: You have proven over and over again in this thread that you are a liar, a racist. Now you are proving that you are quite foolish. I’m done with you as I have much better things to do with my time than coddle those who delight in sheer ignorance.

You wouldn’t recognize truth if it bit you in the ass. And in case you got lucky, you still wouldn’t accept it.

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**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/305 "2006-01-06T21:58:39Z")

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And by the way, thanks for never giving me an answer. That just confirmed that you were talking out of your ass and are not really interested in anything except spewing out your drivel.

Nice tactic. Makes you a target from Mexico, just a different kind than your compadre. jajajaja

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**Author:** ![CBEscapee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@CBEscapee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CBEscapee)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/306 "2006-01-06T22:01:19Z")

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> [@Duke of Rat](#):
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> He was being facetious, not actually calling anybody a racist.
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> That’s why he put " " around the term and even threw in a :rolleyes: for good measure, so anybody, no matter HOW stupid, would get his point.
> 
> I see he underestimated the stupidity he was up against.

Hell duke I think my English comprehension is far better than yours. I asked who first used the word racist. I didn’t ask who first called someone a racist.

Want me to send you a Dick and Jane reading primer for your birthday?

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**Author:** ![Man\_With\_a\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@Man\_With\_a\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Man_With_a_Cat)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/307 "2006-01-06T22:05:22Z")

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> [@CBEscapee](#):
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> Hell duke I think my English comprehension is far better than yours. I asked who first used the word racist. I didn’t ask who first called someone a racist.
> 
> Want me to send you a Dick and Jane reading primer for your birthday?

You mean a **CBEscapee** and Jane primer?

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**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/308 "2006-01-06T22:12:07Z")

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See, you only respond when you think you’ve made a point. It’s like you calling people “gringo”, but then saying that’s not racist. **YR** brought the term into the thread, but he didn’t call anybody a racist. You, on the other hand, replied AS a racist.

Why don’t you respond when the only 2 choices are to be wrong?

I’ve asked you numerous times to answer a question, pointed it out numerous times, and you just ignore that.

Then when you think you’ve made a piddling little point, you respond in a minute with your cutesy little Dick and Jane remark. But your reading comprehension isn’t anything to crow about, either that or you’re too stupid to comprehend “hypothetically”. Another post you conveniently decided to ignore since it made you look like an idiot yet again.

I think the word is coward, in any language. You fit the bill well, wear it with pride.

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**Author:** ![CBEscapee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@CBEscapee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CBEscapee)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/309 "2006-01-06T22:16:38Z")

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> [@Duke of Rat](#):
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> See, you only respond when you think you’ve made a point. It’s like you calling people “gringo”, but then saying that’s not racist. **YR** brought the term into the thread, but he didn’t call anybody a racist. You, on the other hand, replied AS a racist.
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> Why don’t you respond when the only 2 choices are to be wrong?
> 
> I’ve asked you numerous times to answer a question, pointed it out numerous times, and you just ignore that.
> 
> Then when you think you’ve made a piddling little point, you respond in a minute with your cutesy little Dick and Jane remark. But your reading comprehension isn’t anything to crow about, either that or you’re too stupid to comprehend “hypothetically”. Another post you conveniently decided to ignore since it made you look like an idiot yet again.
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> I think the word is coward, in any language. You fit the bill well, wear it with pride.

Coward? I’ve been taking abuse from a bunch of close-minded assholes for 2 days now. I knew any criticism of the US or its citizens would open me up to flames.

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**Author:** ![Man\_With\_a\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@Man\_With\_a\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Man_With_a_Cat)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/310 "2006-01-06T22:23:35Z")

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> [@CBEscapee](#):
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> Coward? I’ve been taking abuse from a bunch of close-minded assholes for 2 days now. I knew any criticism of the US or its citizens would open me up to flames.

Time out.

Dude you are so seriously clueless if you think this board is populated by a bunch of blind mice following a government “right or wrong”. Take a look around, the US and it’s policies take boatloads of abuse from people right here. Some of them are the very ones calling you out in this thread.

You came to the wrong place to generalize like that. You’re being flamed because you’ve lied, misdirected, dodged direct questions, ignored other direct questions and generally shown yourself to be a Grade A :wally

There’s plenty of attacking the US and the actions of it’s citizens and government here. When the government deserves flaming, they get it here. Just like you’re getting.

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**Author:** ![CBEscapee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@CBEscapee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CBEscapee)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/311 "2006-01-06T22:27:46Z")

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> [@Mr Bus Guy](#):
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> Time out.
> 
> Dude you are so seriously clueless if you think this board is populated by a bunch of blind mice following a government “right or wrong”. Take a look around, the US and it’s policies take boatloads of abuse from people right here. Some of them are the very ones calling you out in this thread.
> 
> You came to the wrong place to generalize like that. You’re being flamed because you’ve lied, misdirected, dodged direct questions, ignored other direct questions and generally shown yourself to be a Grade A :wally
> 
> There’s plenty of attacking the US and the actions of it’s citizens and government here. When the government deserves flaming, they get it here. Just like you’re getting.

The difference here is someone other than an American is doing the criticizing. Kinda like blacks can call each other nigger but whites can’t. Non-americans catch all kinds of shit for criticizing the US. It really brings out the worst in you.

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**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/312 "2006-01-06T22:30:07Z")

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Ok, since **CB** is hurling rocks at the United Dopers of Earth, I’m gonna fire a shotgun load of cites as a response:

[U.S. official: Mexican shot after illegally crossing American border was known migrant smuggler](http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/mexico/tijuana/20060104-0936-mexico-us-immigration.html)  
[Man killed near border called ‘smuggler’](http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/mexico/tijuana/20060105-9999-2m5bpshoot.html)  
[Chronological Listing of US Border Patrol Agents Killed in Line of Duty](http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/border_security/border_patrol/border_patrol_officer_memorial/chron_listing_agents/)  
[Mexico acknowledges poor treatment of migrants in its own territory](http://www.freenewmexican.com/news/36790.html)  
[Zogby poll: Americans fed up on illegal aliens](http://www.calborderpolice.com/news/read/?id=14529) (note “illegal aliens”, not “Mexicans”)  
[The Costs of Illegal Immigration to Californians: Executive Summary](http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iic_immigrationissuecentersffec)  
[ICE Most Wanted Fugitives](http://www.ice.gov/graphics/investigations/wanted/fugitives.htm)  
[Bear-Stearns Asset Management - The Underground Labor Force Is Rising To The Surface (.pdf file)](http://www.firecoalition.com/docs/bear%20stearns%20study.pdf)  
[Homeland security chief set to visit Laredo today](http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA010606.08B.chertoff-border.1c9975f0.html)  
[Former Mexican drug agent gets 6 years](http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA010506.02B.mexico_narc.17529ada.html) - Yeah, let’s talk about “corruption”  
[MS-13 gang growing extremely dangerous, FBI says](http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-01-05-gang-grows_x.htm)  
[More stuff to take up your time this weekend](http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/mexico/tijuana/index.html)

Happy now, **CBEscapee**?

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**Author:** ![Scruloose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@Scruloose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scruloose)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/313 "2006-01-06T22:33:00Z")

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> [@CBEscapee](#):
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> The difference here is someone other than an American is doing the criticizing. Kinda like blacks can call each other nigger but whites can’t. Non-americans catch all kinds of shit for criticizing the US. It really brings out the worst in you.

Bzzzt! Try again!

Many of the members here who criticize the US when warranted are from Canada, Europe and Asia, among other places.

Next?

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**Author:** ![Man\_With\_a\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@Man\_With\_a\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Man_With_a_Cat)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/314 "2006-01-06T22:35:57Z")

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> [@CBEscapee](#):
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> The difference here is someone other than an American is doing the criticizing. Kinda like blacks can call each other nigger but whites can’t. Non-americans catch all kinds of shit for criticizing the US. It really brings out the worst in you.

And once again, I think for the third time in this thread, someone will point out to **CBE** that not everyone 'attacking" him here is American.

Do you ever read these boards, or just come here once in a while to take a dump? because you’d know how wrong that statement was if you did.

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**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/315 "2006-01-06T22:39:13Z")

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> [@CBEscapee](#):
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> Coward? I’ve been taking abuse from a bunch of close-minded assholes for 2 days now. I knew any criticism of the US or its citizens would open me up to flames.

You ain’t seen flames.

I promise you, you could have had 99% of this board on your side if all you wanted to do was criticize the the US Government or the Border Patrol in the handling of this situation.

But you didn’t do that.

You came in with a supposed pitting of **Clothahump** and ended up insulting the very posters who normally would have flocked to your side in droves.

Your mind was the only one closed when you started this thread, since all gringos must think just like Clothahump.

And you know what? That makes you a racist. When you unilaterally decide that all people must think like the one person you were pitting, that’s racist.

You cry foul that **YR** first uttered the term, but from the very start, YOU are the one who behaved AS a racist. The use of the word “gringo” had little to do with it, your ATTITUDE is racist.

And that is why, for 2 days, people have not flocked to your corner.

The majority of people on this board certainly don’t condone this shooting, have no qualms about questioning the Goverment or the military. You would have thought that this would have been a blowout in your favor.

But you exhibited the only thing that people here despise more…racism.

So now you have your just desert.

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**Author:** ![CBEscapee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@CBEscapee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CBEscapee)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/316 "2006-01-06T22:46:14Z")

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> [@Duke of Rat](#):
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> And you know what? That makes you a racist. When you unilaterally decide that all people must think like the one person you were pitting, that’s racist.

I tell duke, you really need to work on your English. Assigning a certain attribute to a certain group of people is stereotyping.

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**Author:** ![Scruloose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@Scruloose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scruloose)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/317 "2006-01-06T22:49:43Z")

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A **Gaudere** strike?

Judges?

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**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/318 "2006-01-06T22:50:29Z")

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> [@CBEscapee](#):
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> I tell duke, you really need to work on your English. Assigning a certain attribute to a certain group of people is stereotyping.

Yeah, but when you stereotype all gringos, it’s still racist.

And this response is so typical of what you have done all thread. You get your ass handed to you time and again, and your best comeback is some pedantic piddle.

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**Author:** ![CBEscapee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@CBEscapee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CBEscapee)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/319 "2006-01-06T23:29:49Z")

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> [@Yeticus Rex](#):
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> Ok, since **CB** is hurling rocks at the United Dopers of Earth, I’m gonna fire a shotgun load of cites as a response:
> 
> [U.S. official: Mexican shot after illegally crossing American border was known migrant smuggler](http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/mexico/tijuana/20060104-0936-mexico-us-immigration.html)  
> [Man killed near border called ‘smuggler’](http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/mexico/tijuana/20060105-9999-2m5bpshoot.html)  
> [Chronological Listing of US Border Patrol Agents Killed in Line of Duty](http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/border_security/border_patrol/border_patrol_officer_memorial/chron_listing_agents/)  
> [Mexico acknowledges poor treatment of migrants in its own territory](http://www.freenewmexican.com/news/36790.html)  
> [Zogby poll: Americans fed up on illegal aliens](http://www.calborderpolice.com/news/read/?id=14529) (note “illegal aliens”, not “Mexicans”)  
> [The Costs of Illegal Immigration to Californians: Executive Summary](http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iic_immigrationissuecentersffec)  
> [ICE Most Wanted Fugitives](http://www.ice.gov/graphics/investigations/wanted/fugitives.htm)  
> [Bear-Stearns Asset Management - The Underground Labor Force Is Rising To The Surface (.pdf file)](http://www.firecoalition.com/docs/bear%20stearns%20study.pdf)  
> [Homeland security chief set to visit Laredo today](http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA010606.08B.chertoff-border.1c9975f0.html)  
> [Former Mexican drug agent gets 6 years](http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA010506.02B.mexico_narc.17529ada.html) - Yeah, let’s talk about “corruption”  
> [MS-13 gang growing extremely dangerous, FBI says](http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-01-05-gang-grows_x.htm)  
> [More stuff to take up your time this weekend](http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/mexico/tijuana/index.html)
> 
> Happy now, **CBEscapee**?

Right back at ya!

[New Orleans cops beat black man](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9645260/)  
[Amadou Diallo](http://www.aaregistry.com/african_american_history/2400/New_York_City_settles_police_brutality_case)  
[Haitian Sodomized with broomstick](http://www.aaregistry.com/african_american_history/2400/New_York_City_settles_police_brutality_case)  
[American citizen gunned down by US Mrines](http://www.dpft.org/articles/subpoena.htm)  
[US Customs Corruption](http://www.npr.org/programs/atc/features/2002/sept/border_corruption/) Sure let’s talk. Wait till  
[11 year old arrested, charged with felony](http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/08/02/BAG2EE1BNU1.DTL)  
[U.S. Execution of Mentally Retarded Condemned](U.S. Execution of Mentally Retarded Condemned)  
[Traficant expelled sentenced](http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/weekly/aa072502a.htm)  
[A History of CIA Atrocities](http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/history-cia-atrocities.htm)  
[History of U.S. Interventions in Latin America](http://www2.truman.edu/~marc/resources/interventions.html)  
[GOP Superlobbyist Jack Abramoff and His Closest Allies](http://www.jackinthehouse.org/) Stay tuned on this one

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**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-now-clothahump/338312/320 "2006-01-06T23:55:38Z")

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> [@CBEscapee](#):
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> No it’s not a tie. YR started the racist comments here.

Actually, **CB** , you need go back to another time when you went to the racist card in [this thread.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=343241&page=1)

On [post #114](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6774496&postcount=114), I mentioned a term paper I did a long time ago when I was in college which was provacative (required by my teacher) and I chose to write about Annexing Mexico. **CB** replied with [post #118](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6775695&postcount=118), pretty much calling me a racist, and then it went downhill from there with post #120, #122, #129, and so on until post #148.

I could have sworn that **CB** has called me a racist in that thread, but now I do not see that post…I did report it (since it was in Great Debates and I referenced it on [post #144](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6783597&postcount=144) ), so did it get deleted? I can’t tell. Anyways, that’s why my first post here in this thread was that all of us Americans are “racist” (in the eyes of **CB** )because we want illegal immigration reform.

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