# Happy Patriot Day, Everyone!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-patriot-day-everyone/463091>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 11, 2008, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-patriot-day-everyone/463091 "2008-09-11T12:51:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-patriot-day-everyone/463091/61 "2008-09-12T16:41:09Z")

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Two thousand and seventh, I think. Wasn’t this one of the days we lost when we switched from the Julian to the Gregorian calendar?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-patriot-day-everyone/463091/62 "2008-09-12T16:43:24Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> Two thousand and seventh, I think. Wasn’t this one of the days we lost when we switched from the Julian to the Gregorian calendar?

Then it’d be the 2006th (anniversary). There was no September 11th, 0000.

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**Author:** ![NinjaChick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@NinjaChick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinjaChick)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-patriot-day-everyone/463091/63 "2008-09-12T17:31:20Z")

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> [@matt\_mcl](#):
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> ( **Hamish** responded: “Don’t you know they retired the number? Like in hockey?”)

This quite literally made me laugh out loud.

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**Author:** ![Gukumatz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/74df32/32.png) [@Gukumatz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gukumatz)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-patriot-day-everyone/463091/64 "2008-09-12T18:17:48Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> Patriot Day is perfect.
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> It’s the day when every one is on your side, giving you good thoughts, even joining you when you go out and beat the Giants of terror. It’s a sure win, you’re about to go into the record books and then. . you are totally sidetracked by an Iraqui cheerleader with a beard and no weapons of mass destruction. You are now 18-1.

I dunn geddit? ☹

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-patriot-day-everyone/463091/65 "2008-09-12T18:26:41Z")

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> [@Gukumatz](#):
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> I dunn geddit? ☹

The New England Patriots (American Football team) managed to lose the Superbowl despite beating every other team they faced last season. Their final record was 18 wins and 1 loss, and it’s become _de rigeur_ to taunt New England fans by saying “18-1!”

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-patriot-day-everyone/463091/66 "2008-09-12T18:53:08Z")

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> [@The\_Tooth](#):
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> Blowback Day.

I forgot to mention - this made me laugh out loud (possibly because I would have had my ass handed to me on other message boards for even hinting the US was anything but 100 % completely blameless innocent victims).

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-patriot-day-everyone/463091/67 "2008-09-12T19:14:40Z")

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> [@featherlou](#):
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> I forgot to mention - this made me laugh out loud (possibly because I would have had my ass handed to me on other message boards for even hinting the US was anything but 100 % completely blameless innocent victims).

I had to look it up, but after that, yeah, it was worth a chuckle.

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-patriot-day-everyone/463091/68 "2008-09-12T21:33:53Z")

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All Patriot Days must begin with a Minute of Silence and conclude with a [Two Minutes Hate](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_Minutes_Hate').

In between…barbecue!

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-patriot-day-everyone/463091/69 "2008-09-12T22:14:33Z")

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> [@Rodd\_Hill](#):
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> **Act Like a Patriot Day.**  
> Problem solved.
> 
> Just don’t be upset in 5 or 10 years when it becomes an excuse for Deep-Cut Discount Mattress Sales and the like, with local businessmen doing their own commercials dressed as FDNY. And you _know_ someone, somewhere would.

20% off all merchandise in the gift shop at the NCED\* in Norman, OK.

I’m serious. I bought a ballcap, a retractable lanyard, a potting tool and a combination miniature screwdriver/DIP switch operator.

\*USPS training facility.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-patriot-day-everyone/463091/70 "2008-09-12T22:25:32Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> I had to look it up, but after that, yeah, it was worth a chuckle.

Now I’m confused - I just thought he was talking about the reasons for Muslims flying planes into the WTC in the first place (in a tongue-in-cheek way).😕

I mean, yeah, yeah, that’s what I was talking about.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-patriot-day-everyone/463091/71 "2008-09-12T23:03:52Z")

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Pearl Harbor Day II: Electric Boogaloo.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-patriot-day-everyone/463091/72 "2008-09-12T23:06:00Z")

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> [@featherlou](#):
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> Now I’m confused - I just thought he was talking about the reasons for Muslims flying planes into the WTC in the first place (in a tongue-in-cheek way).😕
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> I mean, yeah, yeah, that’s what I was talking about.

He was. I had to look up “blowback”. I thought it was something to do with firefighting.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Armageddon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/858c86/32.png) [@Mister\_Armageddon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Armageddon)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-patriot-day-everyone/463091/73 "2008-09-13T03:54:44Z")

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Ever since watching Charlie Wilson’s War, I’ve started calling it Unintended Consequences Day. A little wordy, but I like it.

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**Author:** ![DKW](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dkw/32/3118_2.png) [@DKW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DKW)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-patriot-day-everyone/463091/74 "2008-09-13T09:01:45Z")

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Sheesh, I don’t know what’s more pathetic…trying to milk political jingoism out of nine-eleven in 2008 (and we don’t even get a day off!), or anyone who was not a dyed-in-the-wool fan of the Giants at the beginning of the 2007 season waving that asinine “18-1” taunt like they have even a microscopic claim to it.

Big tragedy! Attack on American soil! Terrorism bad! Stay strong! _I know, dammit!!_

Big upset! Spygate! Tom Brady a celebrity! Lucky bastards! Too good! Miracle helmet catch! _I know, dammit!_

You know what, here’s a little experiment. Post the following propositions to any number of internet message boards…

1. There’s still merit in wallowing in the never-ending victim mentality of nine-eleven after it’s directly resulted in a ruinous, endless Iraq occupation and the reelection of what many consider the worst American President in history.
2. If 16-0 was rendered utterly, absolutely meaningless by losing the Super Bowl, and the Super Bowl, by extension, is the onlyonlyonly thing that matters, ever, at all, completely, then what the hell does the ‘72 Dolphins’ undefeated regular season matter? Either a perfect regular season is a noteworthy achievement or it isn’t. You say it isn’t, then Jerry Rice has five times as much reason to celebrate as those one-hit-wonder fish. Can’t have it both ways.

…and see which gets more supporters.

Might want to give it several years so one of them can reach double digits.

(Man, I love this board…it’s just so much _fun!_ And to think I got upset at my The Critic thread ending up here. :D)

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-patriot-day-everyone/463091/75 "2008-09-13T16:30:04Z")

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> [@DKW](#):
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> Sheesh, I don’t know what’s more pathetic…trying to milk political jingoism out of nine-eleven in 2008 (and we don’t even get a day off!), or anyone who was not a dyed-in-the-wool fan of the Giants at the beginning of the 2007 season waving that asinine “18-1” taunt like they have even a microscopic claim to it.

Bwuh?

If Bill Belichick was arrested tomorrow for running a harem of brainwashed sex slaves, I’d be taunting Pats fans for that too; I probably won’t be the arresting officer, so I guess I don’t have a “claim” to that taunt either. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-patriot-day-everyone/463091/76 "2008-09-13T16:41:41Z")

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> [@DKW](#):
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> Sheesh, I don’t know what’s more pathetic…trying to milk political jingoism out of nine-eleven in 2008 (and we don’t even get a day off!), or anyone who was not a dyed-in-the-wool fan of the Giants at the beginning of the 2007 season waving that asinine “18-1” taunt like they have even a microscopic claim to it.

Maybe I can give you a hint at which is worse. One plays on the fears of Americans at the expense of almost 3000 dead people. The other. . nonnie nonnie boo boo, crybaby.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-patriot-day-everyone/463091/77 "2008-09-13T18:28:52Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> He was. I had to look up “blowback”. I thought it was something to do with firefighting.

Oh. Okay. Nothing to see here. Carry on.

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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/happy-patriot-day-everyone/463091/78 "2008-09-13T18:53:24Z")

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This has to be the most failed attempt at analogy I’ve ever seen. Here’s 9/11 and there’s the Patriots 2007 season and, as the Bard of Athens said, you can’t get there from here.

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