# Hard and annoying "ID this Book" request.

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**Created:** [August 12, 2016, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hard-and-annoying-id-this-book-request/762516 "2016-08-12T01:16:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2016, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hard-and-annoying-id-this-book-request/762516/1 "2016-08-12T01:16:00Z")

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I only remember a tiny fragment of this book. And it wasn’t a particularly important one. I hang my head in shame for this request. ☹

1. Fantasy book. Absolutely no earlier than 2000, probably more like 2005-2009ish.
2. Might be someone like Sanderson.
3. The tiny fragment of a plot I remember:  
a) Vaguely Roman-ish world (legions, olive trees, marble statues, etc)  
b) Young girl (8? 12?) is on her parent’s somewhat run-down estate, alone, maybe in an olive grove or something. She’s maybe sitting on a bench reading a book or something.  
c) Her grandfather? great-uncle? Much older male relative in any case is in charge of a large group of Legionaires…anyway, he comes riding up, Legions behind him.  
d) Something’s happened–invasion? revolt? uprising? I dunno, but he tells the girl to come with him  
e) she does.

I told you this would be annoying. I remember nothing else about the book, but that scene was just so vivid.

Any ideas? Guesses?

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2016, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hard-and-annoying-id-this-book-request/762516/2 "2016-08-12T01:27:48Z")

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Desperate longshot: Robert Silverberg’s “Roma Eterna.”

Way beyond desperate Hail Mary longshot: Edgar Rice Burroughs’, “I Am a Barbarian.”

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2016, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hard-and-annoying-id-this-book-request/762516/3 "2016-08-12T02:54:45Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
>
> I only remember a tiny fragment of this book. And it wasn’t a particularly important one. I hang my head in shame for this request. ☹
> 
> 1. Fantasy book. Absolutely no earlier than 2000, probably more like 2005-2009ish.
> 2. Might be someone like Sanderson.
> 3. The tiny fragment of a plot I remember:  
> a) Vaguely Roman-ish world (legions, olive trees, marble statues, etc)  
> b) Young girl (8? 12?) is on her parent’s somewhat run-down estate, alone, maybe in an olive grove or something. She’s maybe sitting on a bench reading a book or something.  
> c) Her grandfather? great-uncle? Much older male relative in any case is in charge of a large group of Legionaires…anyway, he comes riding up, Legions behind him.  
> d) Something’s happened–invasion? revolt? uprising? I dunno, but he tells the girl to come with him  
> e) she does.
> 
> I told you this would be annoying. I remember nothing else about the book, but that scene was just so vivid.
> 
> Any ideas? Guesses?

I think this is Stephen Baxter’s Coalescent ([Coalescent - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalescent)): a big part of the book is the story of a girl born in Roman Britain just as Rome is losing its grip on Britain; she lives on her parent’s estate initially which is falling into disrepair (tiled floors unrepaired, etc.) - and after the estate becomes not safe for her to live in, her grandfather, a Centurion, eventually takes her to the Roman encampments south of Hadrian’s wall. The book is from 2003.

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2016, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hard-and-annoying-id-this-book-request/762516/4 "2016-08-12T12:41:53Z")

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> [@Andy\_L](#):
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> I think this is Stephen Baxter’s Coalescent ([Coalescent - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalescent)): a big part of the book is the story of a girl born in Roman Britain just as Rome is losing its grip on Britain; she lives on her parent’s estate initially which is falling into disrepair (tiled floors unrepaired, etc.) - and after the estate becomes not safe for her to live in, her grandfather, a Centurion, eventually takes her to the Roman encampments south of Hadrian’s wall. The book is from 2003.

You are a god among men. That _has_ to be it.

Seriously, I’m pretty good with book IDs, but you’re freakin’ amazing. How _do_ you do it, Holmes? 🙂

Thanks!

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2016, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hard-and-annoying-id-this-book-request/762516/5 "2016-08-12T13:27:39Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
>
> You are a god among men. That _has_ to be it.
> 
> Seriously, I’m pretty good with book IDs, but you’re freakin’ amazing. How _do_ you do it, Holmes? 🙂
> 
> Thanks!

No problem. I don’t know how I do it - something about your description just reminded me of the Baxter book, and as I thought about it, more and more details fit.
