# Hard Candy **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 29, 2007, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hard-candy/398010 "2007-03-29T18:12:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2007, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hard-candy/398010/21 "2007-03-30T12:53:39Z")
**Cellphone** We didn’t get to see anything, which made it so much the better, but Hayley discovered the evidence she wanted to find under those rocks and in the hidden safe. Yes, he was the rat bastard, hence the ending ---
**Author:** ![brownie55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f14d63/32.png) [@brownie55](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brownie55)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2007, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hard-candy/398010/22 "2007-03-30T15:44:44Z")
[QUOTE=chowder] **Cellphone** We didn’t get to see anything, which made it so much the better, but Hayley discovered the evidence she wanted to find under those rocks and in the hidden safe. Yes, he was the rat bastard, hence the ending [/QUOTE] Wait a second. I have not seen the movie, but are you saying that she found evidence that satisfied her without showing the audience? Because, if that’s the case, you still only have her take that he is a “rat bastard,” something she came in believing if I understand the plot. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2007, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hard-candy/398010/23 "2007-03-30T15:46:41Z")
[QUOTE=brownie55] Wait a second. I have not seen the movie, but are you saying that she found evidence that satisfied her without showing the audience? Because, if that’s the case, you still only have her take that he is a “rat bastard,” something she came in believing if I understand the plot. [/QUOTE] He means that we saw her find the evidence, but didn’t actually see her perform “the procedure.” ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2007, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hard-candy/398010/24 "2007-03-30T15:49:08Z")
[QUOTE=Baldwin] _Exploitative_ is the correct word; that doesn’t change because some whorish online dictionary . I’m not even sure if I want to see the movie, now. Sounds kind of dreary. [/QUOTE] It’s a dark film, for sure. ---
**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2007, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hard-candy/398010/25 "2007-03-30T15:55:17Z")
[QUOTE=brownie55] Wait a second. I have not seen the movie, but are you saying that she found evidence that satisfied her without showing the audience? Because, if that’s the case, you still only have her take that he is a “rat bastard,” something she came in believing if I understand the plot. [/QUOTE] At the end, it’s unambiguous. ---
**Author:** ![brownie55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f14d63/32.png) [@brownie55](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brownie55)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2007, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hard-candy/398010/26 "2007-03-30T16:16:47Z")
Thanks **Kalhoun** and **Trunk** for the clarification. ---
**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2007, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hard-candy/398010/27 "2007-03-30T16:18:59Z")
Without giving to much away I can’t really say anymore. I would recommend you see the film ---
**Author:** ![awldune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c77e96/32.png) [@awldune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/awldune)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2007, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hard-candy/398010/28 "2007-03-30T17:59:14Z")
[QUOTE=Baldwin] _Exploitative_ is the correct word; that doesn’t change because some whorish online dictionary . [/QUOTE] I was surprised to find _exploitive_ in my hardcopy Websters. OTOH, _orientate_ is in there, too. ---
**Author:** ![vetbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5e925/32.png) [@vetbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vetbridge)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2007, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hard-candy/398010/29 "2007-03-30T18:14:58Z")
I don’t know if I would say I _enjoyed_ the film, but I am glad I watched it. Just like _The Woodsman_, it is **disturbing**. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2007, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hard-candy/398010/30 "2007-03-30T18:20:09Z")
[QUOTE=vetbridge] I don’t know if I would say I _enjoyed_ the film, but I am glad I watched it. Just like _The Woodsman_, it is **disturbing**. [/QUOTE] A great film. And infinitely more disturbing. I recommend this film to people and they frequently don’t appreciate it, but not because it isn’t good. ---
**Author:** ![brownie55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f14d63/32.png) [@brownie55](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brownie55)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2007, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hard-candy/398010/31 "2007-03-30T19:02:57Z")
[QUOTE=Kalhoun] A great film. And infinitely more disturbing. I recommend this film to people and they frequently don’t appreciate it, but not because it isn’t good. [/QUOTE] Sort of like _Mysterious Skin?_ ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2007, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hard-candy/398010/32 "2007-03-30T19:09:18Z")
[QUOTE=brownie55] Sort of like _Mysterious Skin?_ [/QUOTE] Wow. That looks like a good flick. I hadn’t heard of it until now, but I’ll be sure to give it a look. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2007, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hard-candy/398010/33 "2007-03-30T23:15:14Z")
I don’t know if I’d go so far as to call it torture porn — I think the movie has some legitimate ambitions over and above a typically reprehensible entry in the genre like, say, _Chaos_ — but nevertheless I didn’t really care for it. More than anything, I thought it was about twenty or twenty-five minutes of interesting material, padded out to unnecessary length in order to make it into a feature. It would have been a pretty good short, I think. By stretching it the way they did, they introduced all sorts of plausibility problems that could have been avoided by skipping through the gobs and gobs of extraneous plotting and focusing on the theme. (How the heck did that tiny little woman hang that guy from the ceiling? Come on.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hard-candy/398010.md?page=1)