# Hard or Soft Shells are equally valid for Tacos, Fuck your "Only soft shells are Authentic" bullshit **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 26, 2022, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hard-or-soft-shells-are-equally-valid-for-tacos-fuck-your-only-soft-shells-are-authentic-bullshit/972249 "2022-09-26T10:49:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hard-or-soft-shells-are-equally-valid-for-tacos-fuck-your-only-soft-shells-are-authentic-bullshit/972249/261 "2024-06-12T14:46:59Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > “Animal” comes from the Latin word _animalis_, which means “having breath.” (_Anima_ being the word for “breath”). So, there’s a pretty strong argument right there that “animal” shouldn’t cover fish, and potentially, not insects, depending on how lung-centric you want to define “breathing.” I read the start of this is and thought you were going to conclude that therefore, fish and insects are animals, as they breath. Fish with gills and insects with spiracles. And anyway, they are both animate. When i say “meat” i usually mean the muscles of a vertebrate. I like liver, and I’ve enjoyed roast grasshoppers, but don’t think of either as “meat”. But the word has a lot of different meanings. When a friend tells me they don’t eat meat, i ask them to clarify, especially if i plan to cook dinner for them. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hard-or-soft-shells-are-equally-valid-for-tacos-fuck-your-only-soft-shells-are-authentic-bullshit/972249/262 "2024-06-14T02:10:42Z")
Also with Capybaras. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hard-or-soft-shells-are-equally-valid-for-tacos-fuck-your-only-soft-shells-are-authentic-bullshit/972249/263 "2024-07-14T23:58:39Z")
That seems a little narrow to me. I’d consider organ meats meat. At least, I know I’d be really disappointed if I told you I didn’t eat meat, and you served me liver. 😝 ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hard-or-soft-shells-are-equally-valid-for-tacos-fuck-your-only-soft-shells-are-authentic-bullshit/972249/264 "2024-07-15T00:27:08Z")
Yes, but if i asked what you wanted for supper, if you said “meat” and i served liver, you might be disappointed, too. Anyway: > [@puzzlegal](#): > > When a friend tells me they don’t eat meat, i ask them to clarify, especially if i plan to cook dinner for them. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hard-or-soft-shells-are-equally-valid-for-tacos-fuck-your-only-soft-shells-are-authentic-bullshit/972249/265 "2024-07-15T01:16:54Z")
I’ve been going with semi hard lately. Brush corn tortillas with oil and bake on a sheet pan for 10-15 min at 350. Still pliable with a slight crispness on the pan side. There’s a pretty narrow window to get them out at exactly the right time before they become too crispy. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hard-or-soft-shells-are-equally-valid-for-tacos-fuck-your-only-soft-shells-are-authentic-bullshit/972249/266 "2024-07-15T01:23:55Z")
Heh, I don’t think I’d ever anwer just “meat.” So. I guess I’m safe? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hard-or-soft-shells-are-equally-valid-for-tacos-fuck-your-only-soft-shells-are-authentic-bullshit/972249/267 "2024-07-15T01:27:24Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > Yes, but if i asked what you wanted for supper, if you said “meat” and i served liver, you might be disappointed, too. I’m always disappointed if someone wants to serve me liver no matter the circumstances. Unless it’s braunschweiger. Then HELL YEAH. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hard-or-soft-shells-are-equally-valid-for-tacos-fuck-your-only-soft-shells-are-authentic-bullshit/972249/268 "2024-07-15T01:46:19Z")
[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/SHnTocdD7sk/maxresdefault.jpg ""Weird Al" Yankovic - Trapped In The Drive-Thru (Official 4K Video)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHnTocdD7sk) Liver joke here. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hard-or-soft-shells-are-equally-valid-for-tacos-fuck-your-only-soft-shells-are-authentic-bullshit/972249/269 "2024-07-15T05:32:09Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > Yes, but if i asked what you wanted for supper, if you said “meat” and i served liver, you might be disappointed, too. Anyway: Not if you served me sautéed chicken livers with onions, because that’s one of my favorite home foods. Yum. ---
**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hard-or-soft-shells-are-equally-valid-for-tacos-fuck-your-only-soft-shells-are-authentic-bullshit/972249/270 "2024-07-15T05:42:52Z")
> [@dougrb](#): > > I’ve been going with semi hard lately. This thread drifted so far off topic I genuinely didn’t know WTF you were talking about for a second there. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hard-or-soft-shells-are-equally-valid-for-tacos-fuck-your-only-soft-shells-are-authentic-bullshit/972249/271 "2024-07-15T11:05:49Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > sautéed chicken livers with onions, Add some grated hard boiled egg and I’m good. My gf likes liver, but not chopped liver. So I occasionally make it for myself. I cook up a bunch of chicken livers, with the majority going to the dogs as treats. The few I use are then mashed with one hard boiled egg and some grated onion. Mmmmm. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hard-or-soft-shells-are-equally-valid-for-tacos-fuck-your-only-soft-shells-are-authentic-bullshit/972249/272 "2024-07-15T11:57:38Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Add some grated hard boiled egg and I’m good. My gf likes liver, but not chopped liver. So I occasionally make it for myself. I cook up a bunch of chicken livers, with the majority going to the dogs as treats. The few I use are then mashed with one hard boiled egg and some grated onion. Mmmmm. I don’t mash it - I love the supple texture of chicken liver and I would hate to lose that. Chop up some onions into strips, fry them until they’re golden brown and caramelized, then take them out, gently sauté whole chicken livers while stirring them in a wok until the inside is barely pink, mix with the onions, add salt and pepper, and serve on rice or some other carb. It should look something like [this](https://healthyrecipesblogs.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/sauteed-chicken-livers-1-2021.jpg) (warning: livers). Of course, chicken liver and onions is just Offal for Beginners. You want to go hardcore, try [Jerusalem Mixed Grill](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem_mixed_grill): Chicken livers, hearts and gizzards, grilled and spiced and served in a pita. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hard-or-soft-shells-are-equally-valid-for-tacos-fuck-your-only-soft-shells-are-authentic-bullshit/972249/273 "2024-07-15T12:06:55Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > It should look something like [this](https://healthyrecipesblogs.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/sauteed-chicken-livers-1-2021.jpg) (warning: livers). Looks delicious! I would do this with turkey livers. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hard-or-soft-shells-are-equally-valid-for-tacos-fuck-your-only-soft-shells-are-authentic-bullshit/972249/274 "2024-07-15T14:42:07Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > I don’t mash it - I love the supple texture of chicken liver and I would hate to lose that. Chop up some onions into strips, fry them until they’re golden brown and caramelized, then take them out, gently sauté whole chicken livers while stirring them in a wok until the inside is barely pink, mix with the onions, add salt and pepper, and serve on rice or some other carb. It should look something like [this](https://healthyrecipesblogs.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/sauteed-chicken-livers-1-2021.jpg) (warning: livers). We can eat chicken liver together any time. That’s exactly how i like them. (Or wrapped in bacon and broiled. That’s good, too.) But I’m not a fan of “chopped liver”. Typically the liver is over cooked, it’s cut with eggs, and i like eggs, but not with liver, and often the whole mess is studded with bits of raw onion which I’m not fond of. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hard-or-soft-shells-are-equally-valid-for-tacos-fuck-your-only-soft-shells-are-authentic-bullshit/972249/275 "2024-07-15T14:43:42Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > You want to go hardcore, try [Jerusalem Mixed Grill](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem_mixed_grill): Chicken livers, hearts and gizzards, grilled and spiced and served in a pita. That sounds good, too. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hard-or-soft-shells-are-equally-valid-for-tacos-fuck-your-only-soft-shells-are-authentic-bullshit/972249/276 "2024-07-15T15:11:18Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > But I’m not a fan of “chopped liver”. Typically the liver is over cooked, it’s cut with eggs, and i like eggs, but not with liver, and often the whole mess is studded with bits of raw onion which I’m not fond of. All the negatives (for you) are positive (for me)! Chopped liver also has nostalgia appeal. I loved it as a kid. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hard-or-soft-shells-are-equally-valid-for-tacos-fuck-your-only-soft-shells-are-authentic-bullshit/972249/277 "2024-07-15T15:16:29Z")
They are obviously positives for sometime, or it wouldn’t be made that way. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hard-or-soft-shells-are-equally-valid-for-tacos-fuck-your-only-soft-shells-are-authentic-bullshit/972249/278 "2024-07-15T18:14:01Z")
> [@purplehorseshoe](#): > > This thread drifted so far off topic I genuinely didn’t know WTF you were talking about for a second there. If you ever want to effectively derail a Pit thread, bring up food. A Pit thread **about** food has no chance. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hard-or-soft-shells-are-equally-valid-for-tacos-fuck-your-only-soft-shells-are-authentic-bullshit/972249/279 "2024-07-16T03:29:06Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > We can eat chicken liver together any time Sign me up, too! ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hard-or-soft-shells-are-equally-valid-for-tacos-fuck-your-only-soft-shells-are-authentic-bullshit/972249/280 "2024-07-16T07:17:04Z")
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