# Hardee's new 1420 calorie "Monster Thickburger! Waifish tree huggers need not apply! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 17, 2004, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hardees-new-1420-calorie-monster-thickburger-waifish-tree-huggers-need-not-apply/275173 "2004-11-17T01:57:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hardees-new-1420-calorie-monster-thickburger-waifish-tree-huggers-need-not-apply/275173/21 "2004-11-17T13:18:24Z")
The thickburgers at Hardee’s are pretty good, although I only get them when I’m travelling. I really don’t think I need a double one though, and I don’t care for bacon on my cheeseburgers. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hardees-new-1420-calorie-monster-thickburger-waifish-tree-huggers-need-not-apply/275173/22 "2004-11-17T13:48:47Z")
So how long before some guy starts calling his little buddy a “Monster Thickburger”? I bet it already happened during those R&D discussions. ---
**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hardees-new-1420-calorie-monster-thickburger-waifish-tree-huggers-need-not-apply/275173/23 "2004-11-17T14:14:46Z")
You know what gets me, this was a story on the local news last night, AND on the national NBC news with Tom Brokaw. And, obvioiusly, a story on MSNBC. They promo-ed it with “Hardee’s is introducing a 1400 calorie burger” and they talked to a few people who were eating it. Of course they had the _clever_ dietician who said, “that’s a heart attack between two buns.” HOW IN THE WORLD IS THAT NATIONAL NEWS? It’s hard to say it was a flat-out commercial for Hardees because they did talk about the calories and fat grams, BUT, given that anyone eating that knows it’s bad for you, this pretty much amounted to commercial for the Monster burger. We were shown many more pictures of a juicy burger and crisp bacon than we were of people saying, “you are a fat fucking pig glutton with no self control if you are eating this.” ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hardees-new-1420-calorie-monster-thickburger-waifish-tree-huggers-need-not-apply/275173/24 "2004-11-17T15:00:53Z")
If you eat enough of those I think a tree is the only thing you could safely hug. ---
**Author:** ![Missy2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@Missy2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Missy2U)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hardees-new-1420-calorie-monster-thickburger-waifish-tree-huggers-need-not-apply/275173/25 "2004-11-17T15:10:25Z")
My son and husband have heard of this. We will apparently be making a pilgrimmage to Sturtevant, Wisconsin (the closest Hardee’s) so they can try this. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Abbie\_Carmichael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/49beb7/32.png) [@Abbie\_Carmichael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abbie_Carmichael)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hardees-new-1420-calorie-monster-thickburger-waifish-tree-huggers-need-not-apply/275173/26 "2004-11-17T16:42:56Z")
> [@Trunk](#): > > We were shown many more pictures of a juicy burger and crisp bacon than we were of people saying, “you are a fat fucking pig glutton with no self control if you are eating this.” Could that be because not everyone who eats a hamburger like that is a “fat fucking pig glutton”? People with physical, outdoorsy kind of jobs (particularly men) could probably eat something like that and have it burned off by bedtime. PS: most people who are fat got that way by eating **sugar** , not meat. I eat an average of 1 hamburger a month, and I’ve never eaten a steak. Hardee’s isn’t putting a gun to anyone’s head, either. Don’t like it? Don’t eat it. ---
**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hardees-new-1420-calorie-monster-thickburger-waifish-tree-huggers-need-not-apply/275173/27 "2004-11-17T16:43:43Z")
Oh… my… dear… Lord… _runs for bathroom_ ---
**Author:** ![lno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a8b319/32.png) [@lno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lno)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hardees-new-1420-calorie-monster-thickburger-waifish-tree-huggers-need-not-apply/275173/28 "2004-11-17T16:45:47Z")
> [@Abbie Carmichael](#): > > People with physical, outdoorsy kind of jobs (particularly men) could probably eat something like that and have it burned off by bedtime. Yup. However, I suspect that the huge (heh heh) majority of people who will eat that sandwich are not the lumberjacks who burn that off by bedtime. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hardees-new-1420-calorie-monster-thickburger-waifish-tree-huggers-need-not-apply/275173/29 "2004-11-17T19:14:11Z")
Does anyone remember an episode of _The Simpsons_ that starts off with Homer drooling over a commercial for something called the Good Morning Burger? A buddy of mine and I were intrigued enough that we went down to Denny’s and attempted to recreate it. It cost us about $10.00 each (we had to buy three different entrees to get all the necessary ingredients). If I remember correctly, two patties, bacon, ham, sausage, lots of cheese, and a fried egg. I have no idea how many calories were in that burger, but damn it was good. The egg is what really made it. ---
**Author:** ![Merkwurdigliebe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/74df32/32.png) [@Merkwurdigliebe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merkwurdigliebe)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hardees-new-1420-calorie-monster-thickburger-waifish-tree-huggers-need-not-apply/275173/30 "2004-11-17T19:24:54Z")
> [@Abbie Carmichael](#): > > Could that be because not everyone who eats a hamburger like that is a “fat fucking pig glutton”? > > People with physical, outdoorsy kind of jobs (particularly men) could probably eat something like that and have it burned off by bedtime. > > PS: most people who are fat got that way by eating **sugar** , not meat. I eat an average of 1 hamburger a month, and I’ve never eaten a steak. > > Hardee’s isn’t putting a gun to anyone’s head, either. Don’t like it? Don’t eat it. I’d buy that. We’ve always had lots of meat, as human beings, but never so much sugar. ---
**Author:** ![plnnr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@plnnr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/plnnr)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hardees-new-1420-calorie-monster-thickburger-waifish-tree-huggers-need-not-apply/275173/31 "2004-11-17T19:32:18Z")
According to this site: [http://www.fitresource.com/Fitness/CalBurn.htm](http://www.fitresource.com/Fitness/CalBurn.htm) a 200# person with a “physical, outdoorsy type of job” (cutting wood, for instance) would have to do that level of activity for nearly 3 hours in order to burn off the calories from this one meal. Not to mention whatever the person also had for the other meals of the day. Given that obesity rates are skyrocketing in this country, I’d say the trend is for more people who sit around on their asses all day (burning 108 calories an hour) to be chowing down on this - I don’t happen to know many lumberjacks. I know lots of sedentary people. Let them eat as much of the crap as they want, but I’ll pass. ---
**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hardees-new-1420-calorie-monster-thickburger-waifish-tree-huggers-need-not-apply/275173/32 "2004-11-17T19:44:39Z")
No way! Self control has merit, especially after 30! Count this tree-hugg’in dirt worshipper out of that monstrosity. I love a good medium rare steak over the coals, but that thing is ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![Casey1505](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@Casey1505](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Casey1505)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hardees-new-1420-calorie-monster-thickburger-waifish-tree-huggers-need-not-apply/275173/33 "2004-11-17T19:47:28Z")
I’m having chest pains as we speak. Alas, I don’t know if my bathroom plumbing would survive the aftermath of such a feast. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hardees-new-1420-calorie-monster-thickburger-waifish-tree-huggers-need-not-apply/275173/34 "2004-11-17T20:18:30Z")
Bah! If I want a monster bacon-cheeseburger, I’ll just head down to [Five Guys](http://www.fiveguys.com/) and get one of their half-pounders. ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hardees-new-1420-calorie-monster-thickburger-waifish-tree-huggers-need-not-apply/275173/35 "2004-11-17T21:11:20Z")
Count me out of any of the monster-burgers named in this thread, although it’s entertaining and at once refreshing and disgusting to see somebody in the fast food business stand up for their beliefs. ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hardees-new-1420-calorie-monster-thickburger-waifish-tree-huggers-need-not-apply/275173/36 "2004-11-17T21:12:33Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > Bah! If I want a monster bacon-cheeseburger, I’ll just head down to [Five Guys](http://www.fiveguys.com/) and get one of their half-pounders. How long has this place been around? I lived in the DC area until about 7 years ago, and never heard of this joint. ---
**Author:** ![Tabby\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tabby\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tabby_Cat)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hardees-new-1420-calorie-monster-thickburger-waifish-tree-huggers-need-not-apply/275173/37 "2004-11-17T21:30:25Z")
Come now, y’all overreacting here. I mean, once a month shouldn’t be a problem. I mean, I can’t remember the last time I went to a MacDonald’s, and if it tastes good… Besides, I get 2500 calories a day, and if I go easy on dinner, or lunch, no problem. I mean, if you don’t have the willpower to keep yourself from eating five dozen of these, don’t deprive me of my once a month indulgence. What next, the government mandating 2 hours of gym a week, or you get fined $10,000? ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hardees-new-1420-calorie-monster-thickburger-waifish-tree-huggers-need-not-apply/275173/38 "2004-11-17T21:41:03Z")
> [@plnnr](#): > > According to this site: [http://www.fitresource.com/Fitness/CalBurn.htm](http://www.fitresource.com/Fitness/CalBurn.htm) > > a 200# person with a “physical, outdoorsy type of job” (cutting wood, for instance) would have to do that level of activity for nearly 3 hours in order to burn off the calories from this one meal. Not to mention whatever the person also had for the other meals of the day. Well, mrAru grew up in a small town just outside Fresno, and was in the Boy Sprouts there … their big fundraiser annually was selling firewood. He and his friend Curt, and a couple other guys in his troop would crank up the chain saws, get the mauls out, and crank out 10 to 15 cords of firewood a day many many weekends in a row. His mother confirms what he has told me - he and Curt used to pack away 7 to 10 THOUSAND calories a day for about the last 2 or 3 years before he left to join the Navy, and having seen before and after boot camp pictures, he lost muscle mass while going through boot. He rode his bike every where, worked in the local rod and gun club, worked in the grape fields on the Sawall farm … and Curt and his brothers were just as active. When I was working failrly heavy labor as a machinist [i would think that schlepping around 250 lb valve bodies counts as heavy labor=)] I used to eat around 5000 calories a day, and weighed between 135 and 145 depending on time of month, and am 5’7" tall. I was solid muscle. [well, then i frelled up my back and turned sedentary, so I cut my diet while in rehab, and it saved me from generalized system shock when I ended up with gestational diabetes that decided to stay … the diet modifications I went through were drastic!] To this day, I eat about 2k of calories, though it is now lower fat atkins rather than straight diabetic food pyramid [that is where I gained 150 lbs in under 3 years…] and have lost 100 of the 150 lbs [but _damn_ that last 50 is a pain in the arse to lose, but I dont want to dump it instantly, that is how yound up with flabby skin] ---
**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hardees-new-1420-calorie-monster-thickburger-waifish-tree-huggers-need-not-apply/275173/39 "2004-11-17T21:54:39Z")
> [@Jenaroph](#): > > Do they call it the Good Morning Burger? > [@Lord Ashtar in post #29](#): > > Does anyone remember an episode of _The Simpsons_ that starts off with Homer drooling over a commercial for something called the Good Morning Burger? …snip… I swear, I’m invisible sometimes. ---
**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hardees-new-1420-calorie-monster-thickburger-waifish-tree-huggers-need-not-apply/275173/40 "2004-11-17T22:05:28Z")
They lost me when I read that they put mayo on the thing. Mayonaise does not belong on a hamburger and neither does ketchup. Mustard belongs on a hamburger. When I worked in a Zesty Freeze during my college days, a burger with mayo was called a sissyburger. Ketchup is okay with fries, though, but vinegar is better and gravy is super. IMHO and YMMV. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hardees-new-1420-calorie-monster-thickburger-waifish-tree-huggers-need-not-apply/275173.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hardees-new-1420-calorie-monster-thickburger-waifish-tree-huggers-need-not-apply/275173.md?page=3)