# Hari Seldon's warning in the Biden XO transgender sports thread **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [January 21, 2021, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hari-seldons-warning-in-the-biden-xo-transgender-sports-thread/931134 "2021-01-21T20:31:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2021, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hari-seldons-warning-in-the-biden-xo-transgender-sports-thread/931134/82 "2021-01-22T22:13:01Z")
Did you report those posts? ---
**Author:** ![MustangSal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mustangsal/32/6327_2.png) [@MustangSal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MustangSal)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2021, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hari-seldons-warning-in-the-biden-xo-transgender-sports-thread/931134/83 "2021-01-22T22:13:39Z")
Yes. He told me shut up about it. I am paraphrasing ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2021, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hari-seldons-warning-in-the-biden-xo-transgender-sports-thread/931134/84 "2021-01-22T22:17:34Z")
They are verging on trolling. They were evicted from the thread and then started reporting borderline posts. Which I did modnote later. This poster in a very short time is generating a lot of flags, a warning and probably several modnotes, not sure, no tracking. ---
**Author:** ![MustangSal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mustangsal/32/6327_2.png) [@MustangSal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MustangSal)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2021, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hari-seldons-warning-in-the-biden-xo-transgender-sports-thread/931134/85 "2021-01-22T22:27:07Z")
Two flags of posts that did not obey the mod note. The same mod note that got me a warning. ---
**Author:** ![MustangSal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mustangsal/32/6327_2.png) [@MustangSal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MustangSal)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2021, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hari-seldons-warning-in-the-biden-xo-transgender-sports-thread/931134/86 "2021-01-22T22:47:38Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > a lot of flags Two flags. Not a lot of flags. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2021, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hari-seldons-warning-in-the-biden-xo-transgender-sports-thread/931134/87 "2021-01-22T22:53:49Z")
Wildly and inaccurately “paraphrasing.” ---
**Author:** ![MustangSal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mustangsal/32/6327_2.png) [@MustangSal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MustangSal)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2021, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hari-seldons-warning-in-the-biden-xo-transgender-sports-thread/931134/88 "2021-01-22T23:01:18Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > generating a lot of flags, Yep I agree. Why does what exit attempt to accomplish by this? ---
**Author:** ![MustangSal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mustangsal/32/6327_2.png) [@MustangSal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MustangSal)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2021, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hari-seldons-warning-in-the-biden-xo-transgender-sports-thread/931134/89 "2021-01-22T23:06:15Z")
Two flags. Who is wildly paraphrasing? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2021, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hari-seldons-warning-in-the-biden-xo-transgender-sports-thread/931134/90 "2021-01-22T23:24:10Z")
When they say “generating” that doesn’t mean that you were reporting, it means you were being reported. ---
**Author:** ![Ed\_Zotti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/fbc32d/32.png) [@Ed\_Zotti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ed_Zotti)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2021, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hari-seldons-warning-in-the-biden-xo-transgender-sports-thread/931134/91 "2021-01-22T23:47:25Z")
The warning posted in this thread > [@Biden forces schools and colleges to allow biological males to compete in women's sports](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-forces-schools-and-colleges-to-allow-biological-males-to-compete-in-womens-sports/931098): > > Today he signed an executive order banning discrimination based on gender identity in any educational institution receiving federal funding; transgender students must now be allowed to play on whatever team they identify as, regardless of biology or hormone status. This is obviously unfair to women and girls - biological males have a huge advantage in sports. That’s why we have separate teams in the first place. Not only does it mean potentially losing out on medals and spots on a team, but als… … was issued in error and will be rescinded. The OP may well be jumping to conclusions or flat out wrong about what Biden’s executive order requires, but neither of those things is against our rules. In particular, the post doesn’t constitute trolling, which is purposely posting inflammatory remarks. No doubt some people disagreed with the OP’s remarks, but they weren’t purposely inflammatory. Since discussions of trans issues are often fraught, we’ll be posting guidance about this later. For now we urge all posters to remain civil and refrain from intemperate remarks. ---
**Author:** ![MustangSal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mustangsal/32/6327_2.png) [@MustangSal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MustangSal)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2021, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hari-seldons-warning-in-the-biden-xo-transgender-sports-thread/931134/92 "2021-01-22T23:48:19Z")
Why don’t we just do all sports like boxing. Heavyweights don’t fight lightweights. Take a rough approximation of each humans athletic prowess and put them in same league. This gets me a warning and a ban from the thread. For not obeying the mod note. Ok ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2021, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hari-seldons-warning-in-the-biden-xo-transgender-sports-thread/931134/93 "2021-01-22T23:52:24Z")
> [@Ed\_Zotti](#): > > The warning posted in this thread Glad to see you back. BTW, I am re-reading all the Cecil Adams books. Damn I miss that fantastic rapier like wit. And the answers are cool too… ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hari-seldons-warning-in-the-biden-xo-transgender-sports-thread/931134/94 "2021-01-23T00:11:48Z")
Thank you! I appreciate the rules based modding and the explanation. ---
**Author:** ![MustangSal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mustangsal/32/6327_2.png) [@MustangSal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MustangSal)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hari-seldons-warning-in-the-biden-xo-transgender-sports-thread/931134/95 "2021-01-23T00:28:35Z")
> [@MustangSal](#): > > Why don’t we just do all sports like boxing. Heavyweights don’t fight lightweights. Take a rough approximation of each humans athletic prowess and put them in same league. Someone explain why this post was worthy of thread ban. And numerous other posts that ignored the mod note, that all things must be focused on the Executive Order, have not. And continues. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hari-seldons-warning-in-the-biden-xo-transgender-sports-thread/931134/96 "2021-01-23T00:40:13Z")
**Modding** : OK, you’re suspended awaiting a decision on your posting privileges. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hari-seldons-warning-in-the-biden-xo-transgender-sports-thread/931134/97 "2021-01-23T00:48:44Z")
What you put in the post was never at issue. It was the way she attacked everyone who diagreed with her as hating women. You can’t make useful decision when you ignore the post that led to the Warning. And, yes, I know you, Ed, were probably not part of the decison making process. I’m replying to those who made the decision. The logic given here ignores the actual issue of disingenuous posting that is what trolling is. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hari-seldons-warning-in-the-biden-xo-transgender-sports-thread/931134/98 "2021-01-23T01:35:50Z")
> [@Ed\_Zotti](#): > > No doubt some people disagreed with the OP’s remarks, but they weren’t purposely inflammatory. Correction to my previous post. I said nothing in the post was in contention, but I was looking at the overall point and not the details. The part I quoted is indeed in contention. The strawman she created in the post she was actually Warned for was in fact in fact inflammatory. Accusing those who support trans rights as thinking women’s sports doesn’t matter is a clear attack. There are also other signs, like her use of “biological males” in the title when her argument was about trans girls. And the microaggressions @Kimstu mentioned. Even if any one of these isn’t sufficient on its own, the combination points to deliberately being inflammatory. And that’s without considering her past history, which is similar to YWTF who wound up with a topic ban on this particular subject. We have, as I said before, been able to discuss this very topic without all this contention, because people would choose to be respectful. It’s not the _topic_ that creates the issue. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hari-seldons-warning-in-the-biden-xo-transgender-sports-thread/931134/99 "2021-01-23T02:40:48Z")
Look, be happy Ed didn’t ban any words . . . yet. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hari-seldons-warning-in-the-biden-xo-transgender-sports-thread/931134/100 "2021-01-23T03:58:36Z")
> [@MustangSal](#): > > > [@MustangSal](#): > > > > Why don’t we just do all sports like boxing. Heavyweights don’t fight lightweights. Take a rough approximation of each humans athletic prowess and put them in same league. > > Someone explain why this post was worthy of thread ban. > > And numerous other posts that ignored the mod note, that all things must be focused on the Executive Order, have not. And continues. For a two day old poster you seem awfully conversant with board lingo like “thread ban”. When i join a new board i generally try to feel out the rules and stuff before i start fights with moderators. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hari-seldons-warning-in-the-biden-xo-transgender-sports-thread/931134/101 "2021-01-23T06:12:21Z")
Using this forum for it’s intended purpose isn’t really picking a fight. Interjecting personal commentary that reflects ideological bias while moderating is not a good look and the complaints are valid. If you all aren’t clear on what is and isn’t trolling I wouldn’t be so quick to jump on regular posters who aren’t privy to the fine distinctions and have to guess at what the rules are. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hari-seldons-warning-in-the-biden-xo-transgender-sports-thread/931134.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hari-seldons-warning-in-the-biden-xo-transgender-sports-thread/931134.md?page=6)