# Hari Seldon's warning in the Biden XO transgender sports thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hari-seldons-warning-in-the-biden-xo-transgender-sports-thread/931134>\
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**Created:** [January 21, 2021, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hari-seldons-warning-in-the-biden-xo-transgender-sports-thread/931134 "2021-01-21T20:31:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hari-seldons-warning-in-the-biden-xo-transgender-sports-thread/931134/102 "2021-01-23T06:17:50Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> For a two day old poster you seem awfully conversant with board lingo like “thread ban”

Great. It’s now ok for mods to accuse posters of being socks (whether they are or not) in ATMB.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hari-seldons-warning-in-the-biden-xo-transgender-sports-thread/931134/103 "2021-01-23T07:05:52Z")

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This is a crap decision and you will come to regret it - and sooner, rather than later. Coddling trolling didn’t help this board in the past, what the hey makes you think it’ll work now?

Did _not_ miss this kind of seagull administration.

Were you actually even reading , that you can say this:

> [@Ed\_Zotti](#):
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> the post doesn’t constitute trolling

so blithely? **They openly admit they held back on citing their one obviously bullshit source.**

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hari-seldons-warning-in-the-biden-xo-transgender-sports-thread/931134/104 "2021-01-23T07:33:55Z")

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Forget it, **MrDibble**. It’s the SDMB.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hari-seldons-warning-in-the-biden-xo-transgender-sports-thread/931134/105 "2021-01-23T07:34:32Z")

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Dibble, not Dribble. FYI.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hari-seldons-warning-in-the-biden-xo-transgender-sports-thread/931134/106 "2021-01-23T07:38:51Z")

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I have no idea what you are talking about 😊

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hari-seldons-warning-in-the-biden-xo-transgender-sports-thread/931134/107 "2021-01-23T11:07:13Z")

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Yeah, i shouldn’t have posted that.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hari-seldons-warning-in-the-biden-xo-transgender-sports-thread/931134/108 "2021-01-23T17:23:30Z")

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Well, frankly, it should have been closed on day one.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hari-seldons-warning-in-the-biden-xo-transgender-sports-thread/931134/109 "2021-01-23T17:27:49Z")

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It’s tricky to figure out how to post in that thread, given that

1. Even DemonTree has essentially conceded that the OP is false, and
2. We’re limited to debating the OP.

Maybe it’d be better off closed, with the topic reopened with a better OP?

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hari-seldons-warning-in-the-biden-xo-transgender-sports-thread/931134/110 "2021-01-23T17:33:47Z")

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Maybe we need to stay off that subject.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hari-seldons-warning-in-the-biden-xo-transgender-sports-thread/931134/111 "2021-01-23T18:07:25Z")

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**The subject is very tough to moderate.** I put extra effort into trying to keep it from rehashing past arguments and going off the rails into side issues.

The only one to get a warning was a strongly suspected troll who immediately violated the 2nd modnote very shortly after I made it.

Please note, no other warnings.

It seems like we can talk about this subject like adults, but it is hard not to get fired up about it.

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Additionally; we’ve lost some very good posters over this subject, 3 recently. I still hope they’ll return.

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**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hari-seldons-warning-in-the-biden-xo-transgender-sports-thread/931134/112 "2021-01-23T18:41:56Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> It’s tricky to figure out how to post in that thread, given that
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> 1. Even DemonTree has essentially conceded that the OP is false, and
> 2. We’re limited to debating the OP.
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> Maybe it’d be better off closed, with the topic reopened with a better OP?

I conceded one small part of it is false, and everyone else seems to agree the rest is true. At this point the debate is around what the policy should be - a debate that’ll be taking place off this board over the next 100 days and is far from settled.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hari-seldons-warning-in-the-biden-xo-transgender-sports-thread/931134/113 "2021-01-23T18:46:28Z")

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> [@DemonTree](#):
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> I conceded one small part of it is false

You conceded the title is false.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hari-seldons-warning-in-the-biden-xo-transgender-sports-thread/931134/114 "2021-01-23T18:50:53Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> Additionally; we’ve lost some very good posters over this subject, 3 recently. I still hope they’ll return.

Reversing the warning runs counter to this goal.

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**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hari-seldons-warning-in-the-biden-xo-transgender-sports-thread/931134/115 "2021-01-23T19:16:32Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> You conceded the title is false.

This is untrue.

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**Author:** ![Boudicca90](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boudicca90/32/16818_2.png) [@Boudicca90](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boudicca90)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hari-seldons-warning-in-the-biden-xo-transgender-sports-thread/931134/116 "2021-01-23T19:24:43Z")

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Seeing as how nothing seems to be changing here, I don’t think that will be any time soon. The very title of the thread, referring to us as “biological males” is transphobic and @DemonTree has a history of trolling in this way, especially her constantly bringing up how anyone who shares her bigoted views are being “cancelled”. And with @Ed_Zotti making it clear this behavior will continue unpunished, I was right to stop posting here.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hari-seldons-warning-in-the-biden-xo-transgender-sports-thread/931134/117 "2021-01-23T19:28:19Z")

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> [@DemonTree](#):
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> and everyone else seems to agree the rest is true

THIS is false.

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**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hari-seldons-warning-in-the-biden-xo-transgender-sports-thread/931134/118 "2021-01-23T19:29:18Z")

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I am disappointed to hear this, I’m assuming you’re referring to @monstro and @YWTF.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hari-seldons-warning-in-the-biden-xo-transgender-sports-thread/931134/119 "2021-01-23T19:29:48Z")

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> [@Boudicca90](#):
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> Seeing as how nothing seems to be changing here, I don’t think that will be any time soon. The very title of the thread, referring to us as “biological males” is transphobic and @DemonTree has a history of trolling in this way, especially her constantly bringing up how anyone who shares her bigoted views are being “cancelled”. And with @Ed_Zotti making it clear this behavior will continue unpunished, I was right to stop posting here.

I’m very sorry to hear that, but I definitely see why you feel this way. I hope the powers that be reconsider their decision.

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**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hari-seldons-warning-in-the-biden-xo-transgender-sports-thread/931134/120 "2021-01-23T20:11:48Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> Additionally; we’ve lost some very good posters over this subject, 3 recently

No, we didn’t lose them over the topic they were driven away by a terrible made up on the spot rule that banned one of them from a thread for posting too much.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hari-seldons-warning-in-the-biden-xo-transgender-sports-thread/931134/121 "2021-01-23T20:56:38Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> Additionally; we’ve lost some very good posters over this subject, 3 recently. I still hope they’ll return.

I can only think of 1, and you just heard from her, and she’s made it clear that troll-sustaining decisions like Ed’s are not going to fulfil that hope.

Any posters on the transphobic side we may have lost are no great loss.

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