# Harold and Kumar Go to White Castle **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 8, 2007, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-and-kumar-go-to-white-castle/425723 "2007-11-08T22:36:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Hazle\_Weatherfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Hazle\_Weatherfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hazle_Weatherfield)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2007, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-and-kumar-go-to-white-castle/425723/1 "2007-11-08T22:36:37Z")
I just watched this movie last night. It was one of the three worst movies I’ve ever seen (the other two being Toys and Drop Dead Fred!) I mean, it was horrendous! I had read some glowing reviews on IMDB and thought I was in for a treat. Did I miss something? ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2007, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-and-kumar-go-to-white-castle/425723/2 "2007-11-08T22:42:49Z")
Apparently you did. It is one of those movies I find funnier everytime I watch it. Maybe you need to give it another try? I think one of the reasons I liked it is that I really don’t like most “stoner” movies. I found 1/2 baked to be mostly just dumb. So, I went into the movie expecting to be bored or annoyed and I came out of it quite entertained. The lines are brillaint “You’re worthless.” “I am not worthwhile.” And come on, a cameo by a tweaked out Doogie Howser?!? What’s not to love? ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2007, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-and-kumar-go-to-white-castle/425723/3 "2007-11-08T22:56:36Z")
Yeah… I generally don’t like pure stoner movies, but H&K was funny as hell. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2007, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-and-kumar-go-to-white-castle/425723/4 "2007-11-08T22:58:56Z")
Married life with a huge bag of pot? All kinds of awesome that was. ---
**Author:** ![Kid\_A\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Kid\_A\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kid_A_1)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2007, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-and-kumar-go-to-white-castle/425723/5 "2007-11-08T23:02:02Z")
[QUOTE=Gangster Octopus] Married life with a huge bag of pot? All kinds of awesome that was. [/QUOTE] It was so awesome that my 4th year Hydraulics prof brought it up in the middle of a lecture while discussing the flow of water in weedy channels. OK…he was kind of weird. Harold and Kumar was amazing and I definitely need to watch it again. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2007, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-and-kumar-go-to-white-castle/425723/6 "2007-11-08T23:08:19Z")
I loved this movie! It was one of the few movies I have ever seen that portrayed young Indian and Asian men as just like anyone else. No weird accents, no setting themselves on fire when trying to have sex, just ordinary pot-smoking horny young bastards. And what is wrong with that? ---
**Author:** ![teemingONE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b4bc9f/32.png) [@teemingONE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teemingONE)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2007, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-and-kumar-go-to-white-castle/425723/7 "2007-11-08T23:08:27Z")
NPH wouldn’t do that sort of thing. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2007, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-and-kumar-go-to-white-castle/425723/8 "2007-11-08T23:22:15Z")
[QUOTE=Anaamika] …no setting themselves on fire when trying to have sex… [/QUOTE] Wait, what? Is that a common Asian stereotype? How have I missed that one? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2007, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-and-kumar-go-to-white-castle/425723/9 "2007-11-08T23:35:48Z")
I find myself wondering if it the initial concept involved “White Castle,” or left the fast-food chain in question unspecified pending a product-placement bidding war. Maybe I’m being too cynical. I mean, White Castle, as a sort of second-tier chain famous for iffy quality, has a certain funky cachet, and the machinery of the story requires it be a bit difficult even to find one. _Harold and Kumar Go to Taco Bell_ just wouldn’t have worked. ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2007, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-and-kumar-go-to-white-castle/425723/10 "2007-11-08T23:41:48Z")
I think they explain why they need White Castle, don’t they? Something about small shitty burgers and onions? Kind of like how sometimes you’re in the mood for Mexican, and sometimes Taco Bell. You are craving the shittiness. To the OP: What didn’t you like about it? ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2007, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-and-kumar-go-to-white-castle/425723/11 "2007-11-08T23:43:30Z")
Yeah, I hate most stoner movies and I love Harold and Kumar. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2007, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-and-kumar-go-to-white-castle/425723/12 "2007-11-08T23:48:04Z")
[QUOTE=Miller] Wait, what? Is that a common Asian stereotype? How have I missed that one? [/QUOTE] Heh. I think it’s the movie Van Wilder in which the silly Indian boy is trying to have sex with a girl, uses too much lube, lights candles, and ends up setting his chest hair on fire. ---
**Author:** ![Astroboy14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@Astroboy14](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astroboy14)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2007, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-and-kumar-go-to-white-castle/425723/13 "2007-11-08T23:49:42Z")
Harold and Kumar is one of my favorite movies. “Learn how to make coffee, bitch!” I can’t wait for the next installment, Harold and Kumar Escape from Gunatanamo Bay!! [Link](http://imdb.com/title/tt0481536/) How awesome will that be? ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2007, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-and-kumar-go-to-white-castle/425723/14 "2007-11-08T23:52:04Z")
From Van Wilder to Taj: \*All you need is scented candles, massage oil, and Barry White. Write that down. \* And that leads to the fire I think. But I tend to confuse those movies a bit. WHY THEY MUST GO TO WHITE CASTLE: Burger Shack Employee: Ding-dong! May I interject for a second? As a Burger Shack employee for the past three years, if there’s one thing I’ve learned, it’s that if you’re craving White Castle, the burgers here just don’t cut it. In fact, just thinking about those tender little White Castle burgers with those little, itty-bitty grilled onions that just explode in your mouth like flavor crystals every time you bite into one… just makes me want to burn this motherfucker down. Come on, Pookie, let’s burn this motherfucker down! Come on, Pookie! Let’s burn it, Pookie! Let’s burn this motherfucker down! Let’s burn it down! Let’s burn it! So you guys maybe should just suck it up and go to White Castle. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2007, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-and-kumar-go-to-white-castle/425723/15 "2007-11-08T23:56:10Z")
[QUOTE=teemingONE] NPH wouldn’t do that sort of thing. [/QUOTE] NPH wouldn’t but “NPH” would. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2007, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-and-kumar-go-to-white-castle/425723/16 "2007-11-08T23:59:52Z")
The talk of people setting themselves on fire during sex made me think of the scene in Go where one of the bridesmaids the Brit hooks up with sets a tissue she had stuffed in her nose on fire while getting high. They were all white though. On-topic, _Harold and Kumar_ is awesome and I generally hate stoner comedies or even comedies for the college demographic. ---
**Author:** ![maggenpye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecc23a/32.png) [@maggenpye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/maggenpye)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2007, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-and-kumar-go-to-white-castle/425723/17 "2007-11-09T00:00:30Z")
I think the IMDb reviews were from fans of the genre, and it’s a great example of the genre. But like the OP, it wasn’t the kind of comedy I was expecting when I sat down with the DVD remote. Luckily I realised _my mood_ was in error, switched expectations and had a great time watching it. A bit like when I watched Dark Star, thinking it was Dark Crystal. That could have been such a disappointment (but wasn’t.) ---
**Author:** ![Edward\_The\_Head](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ce73a5/32.png) [@Edward\_The\_Head](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Edward_The_Head)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2007, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-and-kumar-go-to-white-castle/425723/18 "2007-11-09T00:05:14Z")
I don’t know what you missed, but my wife and I loved this movie. Maybe we should put it on the Netflix queue. I hate the stoner movies too, but this was something different. I loved the NPH cameo as well, it was a great WTF moment. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2007, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-and-kumar-go-to-white-castle/425723/19 "2007-11-09T00:05:48Z")
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton] I find myself wondering if it the initial concept involved “White Castle,” or left the fast-food chain in question unspecified pending a product-placement bidding war. [/QUOTE] IIRC, the script was written with another fast food joint in mind (Burger King?) but the place wouldn’t sign on. However, White Castle didn’t pay a cent for the mention. They did do some cross promotion (sort of risqué for an R-rated flick), but it wasn’t required. It’s one of my favourite comedies of all time. Funnier with each viewing, sober or no. And even though it’s about two horny guys, it’s actually sort of intelligent and damn creative (Weeeeedy!). Except for the Battle Shits. That was just retarded. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2007, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-and-kumar-go-to-white-castle/425723/20 "2007-11-09T00:12:05Z")
[QUOTE=Cat Fight] IIRC, the script was written with another fast food joint in mind (Burger King?) but the place wouldn’t sign on. However, White Castle didn’t pay a cent for the mention. They did do some cross promotion (sort of risqué for an R-rated flick), but it wasn’t required. [/QUOTE] Harold and Kumar go to Burger King? Eh. Doesn’t work for me. Harold and Kumar go to McDonald’s? Too obvious? Harold and Kumar go to Wendy’s? Maybe. But Harold and Kumar go to White Castle? Brilliant! The food there may suck but the cadence, the tone…ahh. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-and-kumar-go-to-white-castle/425723.md?page=2)