# Harold and Kumar Go to White Castle **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 8, 2007, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-and-kumar-go-to-white-castle/425723 "2007-11-08T22:36:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![jackelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@jackelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackelope)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2007, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-and-kumar-go-to-white-castle/425723/41 "2007-11-09T06:41:47Z")
Not a fan of the genre, but loved _Harold & Kumar_. The interaction of subcultures (the two Jewish guys they keep running into, the EXTREME morons) was great, and, I thought, gave some nice insight into the filmmakers’ view of modern-day America. I note that the Guantanamo Bay sequel will be written by the same guys who wrote the first one, but this time those two will be directing as well; last time they had a different director. And it was hilarious. My favorite line was from Tarik, the black guy in the jail who was reading _Civil Disobedience_ or some such: > [@](#): > > Look at me. I’m fat, black, can’t dance, and I have two gay fathers. People have been messing with me my whole life. I learned a long time ago there’s no sense getting all riled up every time a bunch of idiots give you a hard time. In the end, the universe tends to unfold as it should. Plus I have a really large penis. That keeps me happy. ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2007, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-and-kumar-go-to-white-castle/425723/42 "2007-11-09T07:08:50Z")
I’m middle of the road on that one, parts I thought were lame, parts were fuckin’ funny ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2007, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-and-kumar-go-to-white-castle/425723/43 "2007-11-09T07:28:16Z")
Bullets! My only weakness! How did you know? Also hate pot movies, also loved Harold and Kumar. ---
**Author:** ![ArizonaTeach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/45deac/32.png) [@ArizonaTeach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArizonaTeach)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2007, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-and-kumar-go-to-white-castle/425723/44 "2007-11-09T11:53:49Z")
[QUOTE=neutron star] Half Baked was good, H&K was better, but “Dude, Where’s My Car?” Seriously? Wow. I got blitzed after renting that abomination, and I still had to force myself to sit through half of it before I was finally one hundred percent sure that it had no redeeming qualities and turned it off. [/QUOTE] Well, if I needed any proof that drugs are bad and cloud one’s judgement, I have it now. ---
**Author:** ![Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a88e4f/32.png) [@Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleanor_of_Aquitaine)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2007, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-and-kumar-go-to-white-castle/425723/45 "2007-11-09T14:14:47Z")
This isn’t my kind of movie at all - but I love Harold & Kumar. Gets funnier every time I watch it. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2007, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-and-kumar-go-to-white-castle/425723/46 "2007-11-09T14:36:40Z")
I loved the movie. I thought it was a breakthrough of sorts with Asian kids not being sterotypes, just being horny little dopers like everyone else. The bathroom scene was hilarious and the sounds of the girls taking a dump as the guys got more and nauseous had me on the floor. BTW, White Castles are great. If you don’t have a restaurant nearby, check the frozen food section of your grocery. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2007, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-and-kumar-go-to-white-castle/425723/47 "2007-11-09T15:10:26Z")
[QUOTE=Anaamika] Heh. I think it’s the movie Van Wilder in which the silly Indian boy is trying to have sex with a girl, uses too much lube, lights candles, and ends up setting his chest hair on fire. [/QUOTE] Did you know that the silly Indian boy in Van Wilder and Kumar are the [same person](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0671980/)? Another vote for hilarious BTW. Assuming you ignore the fact that there is a White Castle in Hoboken, making their entire trip unnecessary. Actually, that makes it funnier. ---
**Author:** ![Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a88e4f/32.png) [@Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleanor_of_Aquitaine)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2007, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-and-kumar-go-to-white-castle/425723/48 "2007-11-09T15:13:04Z")
I’ve never eaten at White Castle - we don’t have them around here. We have Krystals, though, and the burgers look similar. ---
**Author:** ![Hello\_Again](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hello\_Again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hello_Again)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2007, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-and-kumar-go-to-white-castle/425723/49 "2007-11-09T15:17:09Z")
There’s also a White Castle in Brooklyn – a hell of a lot closer than Cherry Hill, which is practically in Philadelphia! But then, “Harold and Kumar Go to Bushwick” would have been a rather different movie. 😃 My favorite part is where they see the two guys exactly like them get their asses kicked in Newark. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2007, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-and-kumar-go-to-white-castle/425723/50 "2007-11-09T15:25:17Z")
[QUOTE=Eleanor of Aquitaine] I’ve never eaten at White Castle - we don’t have them around here. We have Krystals, though, and the burgers look similar. [/QUOTE] They are. I think the southernmost White Castle is somewhere in the vicinity of Nashville and I ate there once 'cause my mom’s from New York and has fond memories of them, saying they taste much better than Krystal’s, but I can’t tell the difference. ---
**Author:** ![Dante](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dante/32/9673_2.png) [@Dante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dante)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2007, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-and-kumar-go-to-white-castle/425723/51 "2007-11-09T15:51:04Z")
Count me in as not a big fan of stoner movies, but loved it. Especially Ryan Reynolds’ cameo. ---
**Author:** ![slortar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@slortar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slortar)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2007, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-and-kumar-go-to-white-castle/425723/52 "2007-11-09T16:10:01Z")
[QUOTE=neutron star] Half Baked was good, H&K was better, but “Dude, Where’s My Car?” Seriously? Wow. I got blitzed after renting that abomination, and I still had to force myself to sit through half of it before I was finally one hundred percent sure that it had no redeeming qualities and turned it off. [/QUOTE] Ditto. I sorta enjoyed Half baked, but Dude…wow…I made it about 15 minutes in and couldn’t take it any more. I’ve sat through funnier episodes of Frontline. Favorite H&K scene: “Dude, those two look like lame versions of us!” _horrified looks as the two guys get jumped and beaten by thugs_ And then they run into them again later in the waiting room. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2007, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-and-kumar-go-to-white-castle/425723/53 "2007-11-09T16:43:47Z")
Forgot to mention Chris Meloni as Freakshow. Genius! Maybe even better than his insane camp chef role in Wet Hot American Summer. And while I haven’t verified this myself, friends of mine who like to imbibe say the increasingly ridiculous tone of H&K (from realistic teen comedy to cartoons and a cheetah ride) actually matches their high perfectly. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2007, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-and-kumar-go-to-white-castle/425723/54 "2007-11-09T16:56:19Z")
Is there a gender issue here? I loved H&K; even watched the final trailer at the end that went on for about 15 minutes of nothing. Mrs. Piper got up to do the dishes and couldn’t believe I watched it. Best line was when they got the car back from Doogie and he gave them some cash, explaining: “You’ll want to have the seats cleaned - I got a little love juice on them.” It was that the line was from Doogie that got me giggling. ---
**Author:** ![Cerowyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/82dd89/32.png) [@Cerowyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cerowyn)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2007, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-and-kumar-go-to-white-castle/425723/55 "2007-11-09T17:08:02Z")
[QUOTE=NinjaChick] I do grant that part of why I liked it is probably that I grew up in Cherry Hill, NJ (which not only looks nothing like it does in the movie, but is and has always been entirely without a White Castle). [/QUOTE] Well, one reason it doesn’t look like the movie could be revealed by the fact that when they pull up to the hot dog place (the name of which I forget), the closed store next door is a Shoppers Drug Mart. Which is a Canadian drug store chain. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2007, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-and-kumar-go-to-white-castle/425723/56 "2007-11-09T17:17:36Z")
[QUOTE=Cat Fight] Forgot to mention Chris Meloni as Freakshow. Genius! Maybe even better than his insane camp chef role in Wet Hot American Summer. [/QUOTE] I’ve always thought he was one of the sexiest actors on television, and I totally did not recognize him the first time I saw the movie. And knowing him from OZ and cop shows I wasn’t expecting his comic timing and delivery- DAMN! PITCH-PERFECT! “Goin’ down to Georgia gonna git m’self baptized…!” And his funniest scene was mostly cut from the movie (and mostly improvised by Meloni)- the [Hey Randy](http://youtube.com/watch?v=E0GtfT8x6d4) song that’s in the deleted scenes. (That’s not me giggling on the YouTube clip, obviously.) H&K is one of the few comedies that I’ve ever had to rewind the DVD to find out what I missed because I was laughing so hard. I wonder if Meloni’s “Grand Wizard” in the Gitmo sequel is going to be Freakshow as well, and if Neil Patrick Harris (who’s in the [teaser trailer](http://youtube.com/watch?v=EKuUMY6URXQ) for part 2 as well) is going to be gay this time. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2007, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-and-kumar-go-to-white-castle/425723/57 "2007-11-09T17:24:16Z")
PS- Since John Cho is going to be playing Sulu and Zachary Quinto is Spock, I’m hoping the new STAR TREK movie will be called _Harold and Sylar Go to Where No Man Has Gone Before_, but I doubt they will. Pity. I think a stoner comedy could do wonders for the franchise, with Tommy Chong as the villain and a tribble plotline called “The Trouble With Fur Burgers”). I’m not gay or anything but John Cho is totally yummy. ---
**Author:** ![Millit\_the\_Frail](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/51bf81/32.png) [@Millit\_the\_Frail](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Millit_the_Frail)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2007, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-and-kumar-go-to-white-castle/425723/58 "2007-11-09T17:35:59Z")
Add me to the chorus of “I’m not a stoner, nor do I like stoner movies, but H&K is awesome.” The Land of Burgers scene cracks me up so much…and NPH licking the leather seat. I must see the sequel! ---
**Author:** ![Rube\_E.Tewesday](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f0a364/32.png) [@Rube\_E.Tewesday](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rube_E.Tewesday)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2007, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-and-kumar-go-to-white-castle/425723/59 "2007-11-09T18:07:49Z")
[QUOTE=Northern Piper] Is there a gender issue here? I loved H&K; even watched the final trailer at the end that went on for about 15 minutes of nothing. Mrs. Piper got up to do the dishes and couldn’t believe I watched it. [/QUOTE] FWIW, Mrs Tewesday liked it as much as I did, and neither of us have ever been big on drugs in general, and stoner movies in particular. ---
**Author:** ![ArizonaTeach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/45deac/32.png) [@ArizonaTeach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArizonaTeach)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2007, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-and-kumar-go-to-white-castle/425723/60 "2007-11-09T18:09:19Z")
[QUOTE=Northern Piper] Is there a gender issue here? I loved H&K; even watched the final trailer at the end that went on for about 15 minutes of nothing. Mrs. Piper got up to do the dishes and couldn’t believe I watched it. Best line was when they got the car back from Doogie and he gave them some cash, explaining: “You’ll want to have the seats cleaned - I got a little love juice on them.” It was that the line was from Doogie that got me giggling. [/QUOTE] Actually, my favorite lines are the ones directly following, where one of the boys says something along the lines of, “You came on the seats?” And Doogie gives him a totally Barney dismissal look, “That’s what the extra twenty is for. A\*\*hole.” Man, I need to rent that…been too long. And I’m sorry, but \*\*Dude, Where’s My Car \*\* is damn funny. I remain convinced to this day that it was the script to Bill & Ted 3 that got some hardcore tweaking. “And den?” “No and den!” Gets me. Every time. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-and-kumar-go-to-white-castle/425723.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-and-kumar-go-to-white-castle/425723.md?page=4)