# Harold Pinter wins Nobel Lit prize

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 13, 2005, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-pinter-wins-nobel-lit-prize/326052 "2005-10-13T12:58:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![Charlie\_Tan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/charlie_tan/32/12582_2.png) [@Charlie\_Tan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Tan)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2005, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-pinter-wins-nobel-lit-prize/326052/1 "2005-10-13T12:58:20Z")

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> [@The Swedish Academy - the full text motivation](#):
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> … who in his plays uncovers the precipice under everyday prattle and forces entry into oppression’s closed rooms.

[Link to biography and bibliography.](http://www.svenskaakademien.se/bio_en.html)  
[News story by The Indepedent.](http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/theatre/news/article319277.ece) [News story by CNN.](http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/10/13/nobel.pinter/index.html)

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**Author:** ![thwartme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@thwartme](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thwartme)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2005, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-pinter-wins-nobel-lit-prize/326052/2 "2005-10-13T13:40:36Z")

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That’s… fantastic… good… for… him.

thwartme

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**Author:** ![tagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tagos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagos)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2005, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-pinter-wins-nobel-lit-prize/326052/3 "2005-10-13T13:50:42Z")

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They’ve ignored Dan Brown again? :eek:

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**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2005, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-pinter-wins-nobel-lit-prize/326052/4 "2005-10-13T17:07:47Z")

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Hope he doesn’t get a big head and change his name to Harold Galloner.

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**Author:** ![Bob\_Loblaw\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@Bob\_Loblaw\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bob_Loblaw_1)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2005, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-pinter-wins-nobel-lit-prize/326052/5 "2005-10-13T17:15:15Z")

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> [@tagos](#):
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> They’ve ignored Dan Brown again? :eek:

Well, the critics have always loved Pinter, I’ve never been entertained by him. Dan Brown does write a page turner, but I’d have to concede that despite my enjoyment of it, The Da Vinci Code was complete crap.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2005, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-pinter-wins-nobel-lit-prize/326052/6 "2005-10-13T18:52:09Z")

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“So he did, eh?”  
‘That’s what I heard.’  
“Good for him.”  
‘You think?’  
“Must be.”

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**Author:** ![dotchan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9d8465/32.png) [@dotchan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dotchan)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2005, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-pinter-wins-nobel-lit-prize/326052/7 "2005-10-13T23:02:59Z")

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Ah, Pinter. Read him in one of my electives for college, and did one of his sketches. Fun guy. I’m fairly sure I was influenced by him in the way I write dialogue.

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2005, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-pinter-wins-nobel-lit-prize/326052/8 "2005-10-13T23:06:52Z")

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Pinter becomes the 4th Nobel Laureate who also has earned an Oscar nomination (for _Betrayal_ and _The French Lieutenant’s Woman_).

Anyone want to make a stab at the other 3?

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**Author:** ![SmackFu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/53a042/32.png) [@SmackFu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmackFu)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2005, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-pinter-wins-nobel-lit-prize/326052/9 "2005-10-13T23:47:23Z")

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I’ve actually heard of him. Shocking. Hasn’t been the case for the last few years.

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**Author:** ![jackelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@jackelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackelope)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2005, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-pinter-wins-nobel-lit-prize/326052/10 "2005-10-14T05:09:30Z")

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Good. He deserves it. Though I haven’t heard much from him lately; the last time I recall hearing about him was when he had a part in _Gosford park_.

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**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2005, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-pinter-wins-nobel-lit-prize/326052/11 "2005-10-14T06:24:35Z")

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He’s been so good for so long that I’m always surprised to learn that he’s still living and not Irish.

**ArchiveGuy** , Steinbeck? Faulkner? Hemingway?

(Just biased guessing)

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**Author:** ![tagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tagos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagos)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2005, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-pinter-wins-nobel-lit-prize/326052/12 "2005-10-14T09:32:31Z")

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> [@Bob Loblaw](#):
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> Well, the critics have always loved Pinter, I’ve never been entertained by him. Dan Brown does write a page turner, but I’d have to concede that despite my enjoyment of it, The Da Vinci Code was complete crap.

Whoosh. Sorry.

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**Author:** ![Oswald\_Bastable](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oswald_bastable/32/214_2.png) [@Oswald\_Bastable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oswald_Bastable)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2005, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-pinter-wins-nobel-lit-prize/326052/13 "2005-10-14T10:45:40Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> “So he did, eh?”  
> ‘That’s what I heard.’  
> “Good for him.”  
> ‘You think?’  
> “Must be.”

Surely that’s:

“So he did, eh?”  
(Pause)  
‘That’s what I heard.’  
(Pause)  
“Good for him.”  
(Pause)  
‘You think?’  
(Pause)  
“Must be.”  
(Long Pause)

OB

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2005, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-pinter-wins-nobel-lit-prize/326052/14 "2005-10-14T13:31:45Z")

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> [@ArchiveGuy](#):
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> Pinter becomes the 4th Nobel Laureate who also has earned an Oscar nomination (for _Betrayal_ and _The French Lieutenant’s Woman_).
> 
> Anyone want to make a stab at the other 3?

Well, George Bernard Shaw actually WON as Oscar for adapting his own “Pygmalion” for the screen.

After that… William Faulkner seems like a good guess. But only a guess.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2005, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-pinter-wins-nobel-lit-prize/326052/15 "2005-10-14T13:57:58Z")

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Him?

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**Author:** ![Labdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/439d5e/32.png) [@Labdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labdad)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2005, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-pinter-wins-nobel-lit-prize/326052/16 "2005-10-14T17:53:53Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> Well, George Bernard Shaw actually WON as Oscar for adapting his own “Pygmalion” for the screen.
> 
> After that… William Faulkner seems like a good guess. But only a guess.

I’d guess Faulkner and Hemingway.

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**Author:** ![Celyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9dc877/32.png) [@Celyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Celyn)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2005, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-pinter-wins-nobel-lit-prize/326052/17 "2005-10-14T18:59:01Z")

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> [@Zoe](#):
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> He’s been so good for so long that I’m always surprised to learn that he’s still living and not Irish.
> 
> …

😃 good one!

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2005, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harold-pinter-wins-nobel-lit-prize/326052/18 "2005-10-14T20:09:22Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> Well, George Bernard Shaw actually WON as Oscar for adapting his own “Pygmalion” for the screen.

Yes, Shaw was the first, and **Zoe** ’s correct with Steinbeck as the second (he had 3 nominations but never won).

As for the third, it’s a rather unlikely candidate (think non-English speaking for starters). He was nominated in quite possibly the most bizarre and eclectic year the Academy has ever had in the writing branch
