# Harriet Tubman to Replace Andrew Jackson on $20 Bill **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 20, 2016, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harriet-tubman-to-replace-andrew-jackson-on-20-bill/752739 "2016-04-20T16:59:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Iggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iggy/32/3364_2.png) [@Iggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iggy)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2017, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harriet-tubman-to-replace-andrew-jackson-on-20-bill/752739/101 "2017-09-10T19:37:49Z")
Well, security in this context was referring to anti-counterfeiting measures. But that doesn’t explain why, if you are going to go through a currency redesign for anti-counterfeiting reasons, would you need to necessarily feature the same person on the bill. No real difference putting Tubman on the redesigned bill (or anyone else for that matter) than putting a redesigned Jackson back on it. One comment on the WaPo article (forgot to link it, sorry) was a suggestion to cycle through many different notable American persons and/or things on an ongoing basis. If each of the 6 major denominations (sorry $2 bill aficionados) is going to be revamped every 10 years then by staggering releases you could feature a new design on some denomination every couple years thus honoring many different people/things/ideas/institutions. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2017, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harriet-tubman-to-replace-andrew-jackson-on-20-bill/752739/102 "2017-09-10T20:08:37Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > In general, I’m not keen about erasing historical figures from places of honor based on 21st century sensibilities. I wouldn’t want to rename those towns, for example, or nearby Nathan Bedford Forrest State Park (aka “Forrest forest”). NBF, a mediocre general (but good raider) is only recognized so much due to his founding of the KKK. It’s a dog whistle if there ever was one. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harriet-tubman-to-replace-andrew-jackson-on-20-bill/752739/103 "2019-05-23T02:44:50Z")
I am sure you will be surprised to hear: > [@](#): > > Remember the planned redesign of the $20 bill that was going to include the first African American woman to appear on U.S. currency? > > Well, don’t expect to see Harriett Tubman on your $20 any time soon. > > Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin confirmed Wednesday what had been apparent for some time: The currency redesign pursued by his Obama administration predecessor Jacob Lew not is going to happen during the Trump administration. > **[Harriet Tubman On The $20 Bill? Not During The Trump Administration](https://www.npr.org/2019/05/22/725801691/harriet-tubman-on-the-20-bill-not-during-the-trump-administration)** > > Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin ruled out any changes to the U.S. currency imagery before 2028. ---
**Author:** ![Lancia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lancia/32/17174_2.png) [@Lancia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lancia)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harriet-tubman-to-replace-andrew-jackson-on-20-bill/752739/104 "2019-05-23T05:02:58Z")
Of course he did. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harriet-tubman-to-replace-andrew-jackson-on-20-bill/752739/105 "2019-05-23T06:36:18Z")
Bastard, as predicted. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harriet-tubman-to-replace-andrew-jackson-on-20-bill/752739/106 "2019-05-23T14:24:29Z")
The Administration maintains it cannot redesign the twenty until 2028 and that it will have Americans on the moon by 2024 ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harriet-tubman-to-replace-andrew-jackson-on-20-bill/752739/107 "2019-05-23T18:01:53Z")
As I posted in another thread, a delay of 8 years is complete and utter bullshit. In Canada: November 2013 - Historian and author Merna Forster launched a petition that asked the central bank to recognize the achievements of women by placing noted Canadians on bank notes. November 2014 - The petition has garnered more than 50,000 signatures. March - April 2016 - nominations for notable women leads to a long list of 461 Iconic Canadian Women. August 2016 - shortlist down to 12 names December 2016 - Noted Canadian civil rights defender Viola Desmond chosen to be on the new $10 banknote. Design process begins November 2018 - Viola Desmond $10 note enters circulation. April 2019 - Canada’s Viola Desmond banknote wins international banknote of the year design. TWO YEARS from choice of person on the banknote to entering circulation. SIX YEARS from initial petition to international award. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harriet-tubman-to-replace-andrew-jackson-on-20-bill/752739/108 "2019-05-23T18:12:00Z")
The change will eventually take place. We’ll all be stuck with that ugly bill for the rest of our lives. I’m all for honoring a new historical figure. Somehow I doubt Tubman would appreciate seeing that photo in wide circulation. The other bills used paintings intended to flatter the subject. [https://images.app.goo.gl/TEZypGmnaKB5SHm59](https://images.app.goo.gl/TEZypGmnaKB5SHm59) ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harriet-tubman-to-replace-andrew-jackson-on-20-bill/752739/109 "2019-05-23T18:29:17Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > The change will eventually take place. We’ll all be stuck with that ugly bill for the rest of our lives. > > I’m all for honoring a new historical figure. Somehow I doubt Tubman would appreciate seeing that photo in wide circulation. > > The other bills used paintings intended to flatter the subject. > [https://images.app.goo.gl/TEZypGmnaKB5SHm59](https://images.app.goo.gl/TEZypGmnaKB5SHm59) I don’t think she’s being honored as a sex symbol. Nor do I think she’d care that you’re not attracted to her. Abe Lincoln isn’t considered attractive either, have you called the $5 bill ugly? ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harriet-tubman-to-replace-andrew-jackson-on-20-bill/752739/110 "2019-05-23T18:34:51Z")
Never said or implied that any photo had to be sexy. Geez. Sex has nothing to do with a flattering photograph. Half the ones taken of me and my wife are deleted in the camera. Never to be seen by anybody. The early paintings were not exact depictions of the people. The artist naturally tried to show them in the best possible way. Washington probably looked very different from his bill. The photo of Tubman isn’t very flattering. It could be retouched. I haven’t heard if they will or not. This is a kinder depiction of her. [https://images.app.goo.gl/UfkskSvgpmLSNfVDA](https://images.app.goo.gl/UfkskSvgpmLSNfVDA) ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harriet-tubman-to-replace-andrew-jackson-on-20-bill/752739/111 "2019-05-23T20:51:51Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Never said or implied that any photo had to be sexy. Geez. Sex has nothing to do with a flattering photograph. Half the ones taken of me and my wife are deleted in the camera. Never to be seen by anybody. > > The early paintings were not exact depictions of the people. The artist naturally tried to show them in the best possible way. Washington probably looked very different from his bill. > > The photo of Tubman isn’t very flattering. It could be retouched. I haven’t heard if they will or not. > > This is a kinder depiction of her. > [https://images.app.goo.gl/UfkskSvgpmLSNfVDA](https://images.app.goo.gl/UfkskSvgpmLSNfVDA) Are you fucking kidding me? Do you know anything about Tubman’s life? Does a photo of her smiling in her best evening gown sound logical to you? ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harriet-tubman-to-replace-andrew-jackson-on-20-bill/752739/112 "2019-05-23T21:03:36Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Half the ones taken of me and my wife are deleted in the camera. But wouldn’t you need Photoshop to put a wife there in the first place? ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harriet-tubman-to-replace-andrew-jackson-on-20-bill/752739/113 "2019-05-23T21:05:39Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > The photo of Tubman isn’t very flattering. It could be retouched. I haven’t heard if they will or not. You mean like [this handsome devil](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/89/Lincoln_on_5_USD_bill.jpg)? How about this [cutie-pie](https://www.thoughtco.com/thmb/M6xfd0PIUWwRvG42H_uFK0_AgN4=/1919x807/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc()/hundred-59f61856aad52b001088bad3.jpg)? [This feller](https://www.thoughtco.com/thmb/d55r9PuHQnoZ_qNNr15tXp7hQ7M=/1149x493/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc()/fifty-59f6182322fa3a0011382b5e.jpg) is a real looker too. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harriet-tubman-to-replace-andrew-jackson-on-20-bill/752739/114 "2019-05-23T21:05:53Z")
I think all the portraits on the bills could use some sexying up. I’m tired of looking at those dumpy mugs. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harriet-tubman-to-replace-andrew-jackson-on-20-bill/752739/115 "2019-05-23T21:07:10Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > You mean like [this handsome devil](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/89/Lincoln_on_5_USD_bill.jpg)? How about this [cutie-pie](https://www.thoughtco.com/thmb/M6xfd0PIUWwRvG42H_uFK0_AgN4=/1919x807/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc()/hundred-59f61856aad52b001088bad3.jpg)? [This feller](https://www.thoughtco.com/thmb/d55r9PuHQnoZ_qNNr15tXp7hQ7M=/1149x493/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc()/fifty-59f6182322fa3a0011382b5e.jpg) is a real looker too. Hey, Grant looks good! ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harriet-tubman-to-replace-andrew-jackson-on-20-bill/752739/116 "2019-05-23T21:11:20Z")
Why are you putting words in mouth? I don’t expect anything except a respectful photo. A flattering photo is lighting, angles and other stuff. Anyone who has reviewed a stack of proofs knows what I’m talking about. Usually several are rejected just by looking through the pile. People are very sensitive about how they look in a photo. Tubman is an important historical figure. I just want her portrayed in a tasteful way that won’t be the subject of crude jokes. I hope they use the edited photo that I linked earlier. That one is more respectful of her and her work. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harriet-tubman-to-replace-andrew-jackson-on-20-bill/752739/117 "2019-05-23T21:32:01Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Hey, Grant looks good! Maybe, aside from the wart. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harriet-tubman-to-replace-andrew-jackson-on-20-bill/752739/118 "2019-05-23T21:35:14Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Maybe, aside from the wart. Beauty mark ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harriet-tubman-to-replace-andrew-jackson-on-20-bill/752739/119 "2019-05-24T02:48:50Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Hey, Grant looks good! I will go as far as avuncular but no further. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harriet-tubman-to-replace-andrew-jackson-on-20-bill/752739.md?page=5)