# Harris VP choice as she is the official presidential nominee of the Democratic Party for 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** kamala-harris\ **Created:** [July 21, 2024, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552 "2024-07-21T19:06:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/303 "2024-07-23T16:09:52Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > (does anyone off the top of their heads recall what was Kaine supposed to bring to the HRC campaign?) To win the boring contest with Pence? I didn’t understand it at the time and I still don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/304 "2024-07-23T16:13:22Z")
He was supposed to be some kind of reasonable consensus builder whom EVERYONE loved. He was just so disappointing. What a lousy choice (not that any other choice woulda yielded a different result.) ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/305 "2024-07-23T16:34:43Z")
This Yahoo! article claims that Beshear and Buttigieg are off the list. The people being vetted are “North Carolina Gov. Roy Cooper, Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro, U.S. Sen. Mark Kelly, D-Ariz., Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz and Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker” and one dark horse, “Cedric Richmond, a former congressman from Louisiana who served as a top aide in the Biden White House and on his campaign” > **[Harris campaign vetting 7 Dems for VP, including Whitmer, Cooper, Kelly, Shapiro](https://www.yahoo.com/news/harris-campaign-vetting-least-7-144253612.html)** > > Kamala Harris' list of Democrats getting a look for VP include Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, Gov. Josh Shapiro, Sen. Mark Kelly and Gov. J.B. Pritzker. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/306 "2024-07-23T16:50:36Z")
Good lord. I can just see her picking Cedric Richmond, whom no one has heard of, and giving the potential racists extra reason to vote against her. Please _please_ PLEASE! And I thought Whitmer said she was out. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Bredin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@John\_Bredin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Bredin)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/307 "2024-07-23T16:58:38Z")
Sounds like the people of Kentucky need Beshear to counterbalance the GOP more than the nation needs him to balance the presidential ticket. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/308 "2024-07-23T17:06:00Z")
While I see the point of this argument, isn’t the Kentucky Lt Gov a Democrat? So that should still work, yes? Or is there an issue with Jaqueline Coleman I’m missing? But I do prefer Kelly. He would likely help in AZ. Beshear would be my 2nd choice but I would have zero expectations picking him would get the Ds Kentucky. ---
**Author:** ![sciurophobic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@sciurophobic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sciurophobic)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/309 "2024-07-23T17:21:38Z")
> [@Thing.Fish](#): > > I think the only way a Jewish VP makes sense is to provide political cover in the event Harris decides to be tougher on Bibi than Biden was Anybody who would be excited by a Jewish VP is already excited that we’ll have a Jewish First Gentleman. Go Doug! ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/310 "2024-07-23T17:27:57Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > And I thought Whitmer said she was out. Yes, she did say this. But sometimes people say things they don’t really mean, and sometimes people’s minds change. I wouldn’t be surprised if Whitmer sticks to her guns and continues to turn down the opportunity. I also wouldn’t be surprised with an announcement like “I wanted to continue to serve the people of Michigan, but at such a critical time in history, I have decided that it is more important to serve the country.” ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/311 "2024-07-23T17:33:56Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > I also wouldn’t be surprised with an announcement like “I wanted to continue to serve the people of Michigan, but at such a critical time in history, I have decided that it is more important to serve the country.” No, the playbook says, “I want to continue to serve the people of Michigan, and at such a critical time in history I have decided that I can best serve them, and the rest of our great nation, as VP.” ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/312 "2024-07-23T17:37:59Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker Just no. I mostly admire the job he’s done in Illinois, but (as others have pointed out) he brings nothing to the ticket. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/313 "2024-07-23T17:45:22Z")
> [@sciurophobic](#): > > > [@Thing.Fish](#): > > > > I think the only way a Jewish VP makes sense is to provide political cover in the event Harris decides to be tougher on Bibi than Biden was > > Anybody who would be excited by a Jewish VP is already excited that we’ll have a Jewish First Gentleman. Go Doug! The only thing I think of when I hear his name is the Far Side cartoon. ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/314 "2024-07-23T17:55:00Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > I love Warnock for those reasons too. We’d lose that seat in the Senate though as I’m sure the GA Gov. wouldn’t appoint another Dem He’s also won two elections in Georgia, the last one against a legend of UGa. football, Herschel Walker. Brian Kemp, the governor, wouldn’t necessarily pick a MAGA replacement, though. He got primaried by Trump in his last election, for refusing to commit election fraud on Trump’s behalf. In normal times, Kemp would be considered a deeply conservative Republican, but in the TOP (“Trump’s Own Party”), he’s one of the more reasonable voices. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/315 "2024-07-23T18:11:53Z")
There is functionally no difference between Warnock being replaced by a MAGA Republican and a more traditionally conservative Republican. Either all-but-assures that a Republican will be Majority Leader, and that leader will decide what comes to a vote in the Senate and under what conditions. ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/316 "2024-07-23T18:15:26Z")
I really, truly believe that two women is less triggering for misogynists than a man playinf secnd fiddle to a woman, just in terms of the visuals. And its that vague disconfort that will keep misogynistic Democrats and independents home. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/317 "2024-07-23T18:21:09Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > “If they do the polling and it turns out that they need a 49-year-old balding gay Jew from Boulder, Colorado, they’ve got my number,” Polis quipped, in a moment that quickly went viral on social media. “Obviously, if somebody asks, I’d take a serious look at it,” he added, “but my phone hasn’t rung yet.” NOTE - this is a quote of Jared Polis speaking, that @DavidNRockies quoted, not DNR themselves. Yeah, and as I mentioned in this or one of the other closely related threads, Polis has been very maybe-I-will-maybe-I-won’t about running in 2028 prior to Biden’s demurral. He’s young enough to wait out Harris (please FSM, let’s have 8 years of Harris to wait out 🙏 ) and in the meantime will continue to build on his existing track record and experience. Of course, Whitmer is _also_ in that exact category, but I’d love them as a joint ticket, and don’t honestly care which is Pres or VP. Back to the focus of _this_ thread though, I think Polis is better positioned to support Harris in 2024 as a Governor of a Bluish-purple state and to build enthusiasm than bringing anything special (by his own words as quoted above no less!) to the Harris ticket. I agree 99.9% that figuring out what will move voters to get out and vote, discourage RWNJ from voting, or win over a few undecided (especially in swing states!) is really the biggest target - while I’d love a closely matched ideology to mine, greater competence and experience, and a laundry list of other things, doing almost (!) anything that prevents Trump from winning is the key to me. (99.9 because I don’t want someone to pick a candidate that is nearly as bad as Trump, or a horrific individual in their own right in office, even if it appeals to some terrifying demographic) ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/318 "2024-07-23T18:21:42Z")
> [@MandaJo](#): > > I really, truly believe that two women is less triggering for misogynists than a man playinf secnd fiddle to a woman, just in terms of the visuals. And its that vague disconfort that will keep misogynistic Democrats and independents home. You may be right, but there are plenty of people who have (stupid, ignorant) trepidation about women in leadership positions, people who would take comfort thinking a man in the wings could calm down any of the “inevitable rampant emotions.” Two women on the ticket? Oh noes!!! We’re doomed! ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/319 "2024-07-23T18:23:06Z")
Yeah, that would be my psychology. I can’t see a woman-woman ticket being more popular among the misogynists than a woman-man ticket, regardless of who is first fiddle. ---
**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/320 "2024-07-23T18:37:41Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > While I see the point of this argument, isn’t the Kentucky Lt Gov a Democrat? So that should still work, yes? Or is there an issue with Jaqueline Coleman I’m missing? I read a link earlier that said there would be a special election, but that doesn’t appear to be the case; Coleman would fill out Beshear’s role until his term is up at the end of 2027/early 2028. The LG is kind of a non-entity in KY, so it’s hard to know exactly how that would go. She would probably be fine, but it would be unknown territory. It’s also apparently murky about whether she’d be able to appoint an LG. ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/321 "2024-07-23T18:39:19Z")
But I think the real concern is that whoever replaced Beshear might not have his talent for winning elections in Kentucky. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/322 "2024-07-23T18:44:49Z")
Mark Kelly. The more I’ve read, the more convinced this is the best pick. Whitmer is amazing, but I think a regular white dude, especially one with his background, would be helpful the most. Pete is great and if him joining would win Michigan, that’d be great. I don’t think most of us Michiganders even realize he set up residence here. Sadly, him being gay costs some votes, probably more than it gains. I do think that even though it is 2024. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552.md?page=17)