# Harris VP choice as she is the official presidential nominee of the Democratic Party for 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** kamala-harris\ **Created:** [July 21, 2024, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552 "2024-07-21T19:06:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 45
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/883 "2024-08-01T20:54:03Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > I am personally of the opinion that Buttigieg has the innate intelligence and demonstrated skill to be a very effective president, right now. A mayor of a moderately sized city and a medium ranked cabinet post? > [@Loach](#): > > Secretary of Transportation just isn’t visible enough to show he has experience. Right. The only big cabinet post is Sec’y of State. Maybe Defense, but … > [@Thing.Fish](#): > > I continue to be utterly baffled by JB Pritzker’s presence in this discussion. Yeah, Gov of a solid blue state does not bring much. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/884 "2024-08-01T21:00:06Z")
It would be nice to have a VP candidate that you didn’t have to be an apologist for, re-interpreting his statements to show that he’s not really hawkish on Israel. This is what’s meant by “baggage” and Harris can do without it. I agree with the _Salon_ article. Shapiro would be a target and a detriment to the campaign. ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/885 "2024-08-01T21:01:35Z")
He’s _saying_ we shouldn’t tolerate anti-Semitism, but clearly what he _means_ in that context is that we shouldn’t tolerate protests against Israeli war crimes. The clear implication is that ceasefire supporters are anti-Semitic, which is going to justifiably outrage a lot of people. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/886 "2024-08-01T21:15:47Z")
I don’t think that’s what he’s saying – I think he’s saying there have been anti-semitic elements among many of the campus protests (which is factually true), and that this is a bad thing that campuses should crack down on (the anti-semitic parts). As for Shapiro in general, he’s not my first choice, but he has positives. He has negatives too. I presume Harris and her team are very thoughtfully considering those positives and negatives, as well as those from the other possibilities. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/887 "2024-08-01T21:18:09Z")
It shouldn’t be a newsflash that all of the candidates have negatives. If there was one without any negatives, they would have been picked already. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/888 "2024-08-01T21:18:47Z")
**Blindingly obvious point (one of my talents):** Wherever they land, it will be buttressed by stats, facts, and analysis that we are not privy to. I would find it hard to believe that any of our concerns would be lost on them. IOW, don’t despair, whatever the choice. ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/889 "2024-08-01T21:24:09Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I don’t think that’s what he’s saying – I think he’s saying there have been anti-semitic elements among many of the campus protests (which is factually true), and that this is a bad thing that campuses should crack down on (the anti-semitic parts). But he didn’t just shut down the “anti-semitic parts” of the encampment, he shut down the ENTIRE encampment. This doesn’t suggest that he draws a distinction between legitimate human rights advocates and opportunistic anti-Semites. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/890 "2024-08-01T21:27:37Z")
> [@Stratocaster](#): > > **Blindingly obvious point (one of my talents):** Wherever they land, it will be buttressed by stats, facts, and analysis that we are not privy to. I would find it hard to believe that any of our concerns would be lost on them. IOW, don’t despair, whatever the choice. Within the not so distance past campaigns have had stats, facts and analysis that we are not privy to as well as a lot more time. They still picked Palin, Quayle and Kaine. I don’t quite put Kaine in the same category as the other two. He did nothing to hurt the campaign but he certainly wasn’t a good choice to help. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/891 "2024-08-01T21:27:40Z")
Pritzker is the darling of my college football-oriented message board - which is surprisingly liberal - because of his appearance(!) and his fairly straightforward demeanor (I’ll defer to our Illinois colleagues about any in depth analysis). ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/892 "2024-08-01T21:29:35Z")
Well…I guess one man’s “mob boss” is another’s “football coach”. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/893 "2024-08-01T21:37:32Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > It would be nice to have a VP candidate that you didn’t have to be an apologist for Unfortunately we don’t live in that world. Whoever is the VP pick, someone will come up with something that will need explanations. The difference is that we’re pretty sure we know what Shapiro’s biggest issue will probably be already if he’s picked. All that being said, I see Walz as having the most upside and least downside, so he’s who I hope for at this moment. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/894 "2024-08-01T21:45:59Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Unfortunately we don’t live in that world. Whoever is the VP pick, someone will come up with something that will need explanations. Of course, it’s just that ISTM that Shapiro comes with more built-in liabilities than the others. If Jesus Christ himself was the VP nominee, Trump’s handlers would tell him to cite the “Cleansing of the Temple” incident where Jesus drives out merchants and money-changers from the Temple as evidence that Jesus was anti-business. And as we all know by now, even if there’s no dirt to be found on an opposition candidate, Trump will just make something up. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/895 "2024-08-01T21:51:08Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Of course, it’s just that ISTM that Shapiro comes with more built-in liabilities than the others. That might very well be true, and for that reason I am wary. > [@wolfpup](#): > > If Jesus Christ himself was the VP nominee, Trump’s handlers would tell him to cite the “Cleansing of the Temple” incident where Jesus drives out merchants and money-changers from the Temple as evidence that Jesus was anti-business. I can even picture it in my head. 😖 ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/896 "2024-08-01T21:53:22Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > I see Walz as having the most upside and least downside Have you seen his eyebrows, though? Someone get that guy a trimmer, stat! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/897 "2024-08-01T21:53:58Z")
I was a big believer that it would be Kelly but now I’m leaning Walz ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/898 "2024-08-01T21:55:40Z")
Beshear was just in a single car crash > **[Former Gov. Steve Beshear expected to make full recovery after crash](https://www.wlky.com/article/former-governor-steve-beshear-crash-kentucky/61763778)** > > Former Kentucky Gov. Steve Beshear is recovering after being involved in a crash on Wednesday. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/899 "2024-08-01T21:56:48Z")
Never mind. It’s the candidate’s father ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/900 "2024-08-01T21:57:48Z")
> [@ShadowFacts](#): > > Have you seen his eyebrows, though? I think his eyebrows are fine, it’s just that they seem bushy compared to what little is on his head. Anyway, he gives off a vibe like a sports coach from a made-for-TV movie who will take the time to sit down and find out why a kid is bummed out, then give some folksy inspirational anecdote. That’s not a bad thing for a VP. ETA: I see him in this video and he balances likeability with the ability to be serious about a subject. He’s good. > **[This Democratic governor started calling Trump, Vance ‘weird.’ Hear why | CNN...](https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/28/politics/video/walz-calls-trump-vance-weird-sotu-digvid)** > > Potential vice presidential pick Gov. Tim Walz (D-MN) joins CNN’s Jake Tapper on “State of the Union” to discuss his viral use of the word ‘weird’ to describe former President Donald Trump and his running mate, Ohio Sen. JD Vance. (There is a video on that page just 1 minutes and 23 seconds long.) ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/901 "2024-08-01T22:06:08Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > > [@eschrodinger](#): > > > > Apparently Walz started the whole “they’re weird” thing. > > Yes he did. Being funny _and_ smart (something Pete has in spades) makes for effective campaigning. Definitely. And Walz does deserve credit for making GOP weirdness a focus, now. But Kamala deserves some credit, too: > [@](#): > > The dig appeared to be a callback to what Harris once said she would do, according to CNN, if Trump followed her around the debate stage like he did to Hillary Clinton in 2016. > > Harris reportedly said she would turn around and ask him, **“Why are you being so weird?”** She’s clearly been on top of this idea for a long time. (My bolding in the quote.) > **[Democrats' new line of attack on Republicans? 'You’re being weird'](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/democrats-new-line-attack-republicans-youre-weird/story?id=112281846)** > > Democrats have recently begun adopting a fresh new line of attack on Republicans: quite simply, calling them weird. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/902 "2024-08-01T22:13:06Z")
Has the sexual harassment in Shapiro’s office been mentioned? > **[Women’s Group to Harris: Dump Shapiro Over Sex Case Cover-up](https://www.thedailybeast.com/womens-group-to-harris-dump-shapiro-over-sex-case-cover-up)** > > Pennsylvania Gov. Shapiro’s involvement in covering up a sexual harassment claim against a longtime aide may doom his VP chances. Seems like yet another attack point that I hope Harris doesn’t give the Republicans. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552.md?page=44) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552.md?page=46)