# Harris VP choice as she is the official presidential nominee of the Democratic Party for 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** kamala-harris\ **Created:** [July 21, 2024, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552 "2024-07-21T19:06:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 56
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/1105 "2024-08-04T11:26:08Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > I want to make sure we all agree on what you’re saying here, because I don’t want to put words in your mouth. Are you saying all the VP candidates are “Zionists” to @Happy_Lendervedder’s post you were responding too? Are you saying that all the VP candidates would be _considered_ Zionists by the angry supports of Palestine? Or something else entirely? They all think Israel should exist, and should be a safe place for Jews, and has the right to defend itself. That qualifies as “Zionist” for many (including myself). IMO it’s not at all in conflict with being pro-Palestinian and pro-two-state-solution (in fact, IMO, such stances are _necessary_ for Zionism – Israel will never be a safe place for Jews unless and until long-term peace is made with Palestinians, which requires guaranteeing their human rights). My point is that substantively, there’s no real difference in views on Israel from the various VP candidates, at least AFAICT from public statements. Some will jump on Shapiro’s statements about protesters – but if a voter can support a Zionist VP candidate, then IMO that voter is gettable, even with Shapiro on the ticket. The risk that a few may fall off because of those statements may be low enough to be overcome by the positives Shapiro brings (i.e. helping in all-important PA). That’s almost certainly the kind of calculation Harris is considering. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/1106 "2024-08-04T11:55:07Z")
CNN reports that Kelly, Shapiro and Walz (at least) are getting final face to face interviews today. Also Bernie said that Walz is his top choice. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/1107 "2024-08-04T12:42:35Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Also Bernie said that Walz is his top choice. OK, so he’s out. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/1108 "2024-08-04T12:50:23Z")
Yeah, I don’t know what Beshear brings to the table that’s special. Of course, just being considered is an honor (I’m not being snarky, I’d be flattered to be on the list). ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/1109 "2024-08-04T13:00:06Z")
He won a second term in a rural red state defending reproductive rights and brought the state into Medicaid expansion. He knows how to reach voters on the other side. He focuses the conversation on two issues Harris wants the focus on. He provides demographic and geographic balance. That ain’t chopped liver. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/1110 "2024-08-04T13:06:00Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > > [@Loach](#): > > > > Some people on here give it great weight. I always say bookmakers set odds in order to ensure they make money. > > Bookmakers set odds to try to establish that the bets are distributed in such a way that no single outcome can make them _lose_ money. Not quite the same thing. They do want an even split. That way they are guaranteed a profit off of the vig. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/1111 "2024-08-04T13:06:28Z")
Beshear is young and handsome as well for what that’s worth. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/1112 "2024-08-04T13:08:12Z")
> [@Thing.Fish](#): > > If people really want a LGBTQ President, they should be pushing Senator Tammy Baldwin, who would be an awesome candidate and President IMO. Or Jared Polis who is in his last term as governor of Colorado. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/1113 "2024-08-04T13:09:23Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > CNN reports that Kelly, Shapiro and Walz (at least) are getting final face to face interviews today. > > Also Bernie said that Walz is his top choice. I say Kelly takes them 2 out of 3 falls. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/1114 "2024-08-04T13:11:16Z")
A totally silly idea: they want white, straight, and with lots of experience, right? Why not Hillary? More seriously, I’m slightly surprised they didn’t announce Friday to let it bubble over the weekend. Perhaps today? ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/1115 "2024-08-04T13:18:38Z")
I just hope they don’t go the reality TV route and have a surprise announcement at a live event. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/1116 "2024-08-04T13:24:50Z")
I’ve actually been thinking they might televise the in-person meetings and notify us all of the winner by gifting the VP pick a rose. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/1117 "2024-08-04T13:51:36Z")
[Democratic Vice-Presidential Polls](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/polls-only-no-discussion/953642/5208) ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/1118 "2024-08-04T15:11:03Z")
> [@ASL\_v2.0](#): > > notify us all of the winner by gifting the VP pick a rose. I was thinking more like a press conference where a high school athlete picks his college by putting on a cap with the logo of the ‘winning’ school. Kamala will have six caps in front of her and pick the winner. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/1119 "2024-08-04T15:13:18Z")
What she needs is a sorting cap, like Hogwarts. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/1120 "2024-08-04T15:16:53Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > What she needs is a sorting cap, like Hogwarts Harris/Potter 2024! ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/1121 "2024-08-04T15:43:05Z")
Here’s an article from the BBC about the VP vetting process. It sounds exhausting. > **[Sex, money, social media - how VP contenders are vetted](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpv30gx7xkko)** > > As Kamala Harris vets potential running mates, spare a thought for the contenders as every corner of their lives is investigated. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/1122 "2024-08-04T15:53:34Z")
I have the same thinking as Fetterman. With openings at senate and governor I was a bit surprised Shapiro went for governor. I would have thought senator would be a better fit for Shapiro. Fetterman seemed logical for governor as he was lt governor. Then I realized Shapiro wants to try for president, governor is the better path for that. Fetterman is very happy to be senator, he doesn’t seem to want to go further. Senator is his spot. Should Shapiro want to make a run for president he should stay as governor. His chances are better going from gov to pres rather than vice to pres. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/1123 "2024-08-04T16:13:41Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > Fetterman is very happy to be senator, he doesn’t seem to want to go further. Senator is his spot. I wonder how much his health issues have quelled those ambitions. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/1124 "2024-08-04T16:18:54Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > Then I realized Shapiro wants to try for president, governor is the better path for that. I don’t think that’s true. Harris, Biden, H. Clinton, Obama, Kerry and Gore came from a VP or Senator path, and that’s just the Dem side. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552.md?page=55) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552.md?page=57)