# Harris VP choice as she is the official presidential nominee of the Democratic Party for 2024

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
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**Created:** [July 21, 2024, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552 "2024-07-21T19:06:41Z")\
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**Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/1145 "2024-08-04T22:24:24Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> It’s technically possible

Yeah. The American voter just _loves_ technicalities.[/s]. I can’t think of a surer way to doom her campaign.

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**Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/1146 "2024-08-04T22:55:53Z")

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> Yeah. The American voter just _loves_ technicalities.[/s]. I can’t think of a surer way to doom her campaign.

But they _love_ reality shows!

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**Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/1147 "2024-08-04T23:28:59Z")

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> [@Folly](#):
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> I predict a hunger games style winner take all match up this weekend. Hope the arena is prepped and stocked with weapons and food caches.

How disappointing.

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**Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/1148 "2024-08-04T23:43:11Z")

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Over in the enthusiasm thread, there’s some discussion of the _Republicans for Harris_ demographic group. IMHO, that’s who Harris should be courting with her VP pick.

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**Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/1149 "2024-08-05T00:02:50Z")

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[Did Mark Kelly tip his cards that he’s not the pick?](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/08/04/sen-mark-kelly-stirs-intrigue-about-harris-vp-decision-with-x-posts/74668387007/)

> “I spent my life in the Navy and at NASA, where the mission always comes first. Now, my mission is serving Arizonans,” Kelly said in a post Sunday evening on X, formerly known as Twitter, before deleting it about 30 minutes later.

My guess? This was an already-scheduled post that had nothing to do with any vice president search, but as soon as it went up, a staffer may have realized how it sounded and quick took it down.

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**Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/1150 "2024-08-05T00:07:29Z")

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FWIW, about an hour and a half ago on CNN, they were talking as if it’s known that the VP announcement won’t be made until Tuesday. I was listening to a short bit in the car, and not sure if that was speculation or something sourced.

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**Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/1151 "2024-08-05T00:21:05Z")

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It occurred to me that everyone is in DC and it’s just a 2.5 hour drive to Philly. They could definitely announce as late Tuesday afternoon and not have logistical issues with getting someone out there in time for the rally.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/1152 "2024-08-05T00:35:30Z")

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Ok so Kelly’s people deleted the first post about serving Arizonans, and almost immediately replaced it with this:

> <https://x.com/CaptMarkKelly/status/1820231332284490222>

Did his socials team have two different posts drafted depending on Harris’ decision, and they posted the wrong one originally? 🤔 Is Kelly going to be the pick? 🤔 🤔

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**Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/1153 "2024-08-05T00:43:34Z")

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It would be a bold move to announce before the boss does. It could also be that he means that he will serve Harris and the choice that wasn’t him.

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**Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/1154 "2024-08-05T00:47:23Z")

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My thought is that any social media activity right now from the finalists would have to be given a thumbs-up from the Harris team. That’s why I thought the original post was already scheduled and got posted by accident. But now this one goes up…

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**Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/1155 "2024-08-05T01:01:18Z")

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The comments on that post are certainly reacting as it was confirmation that Kelly is the pick.

I also see that it’s the same post on his Instagram page.

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Sure hope those comments prove to be right. Though I’d be fine with Walz too.

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**Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/1157 "2024-08-05T01:15:14Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> It could also be that he means that he will serve Harris and the choice that wasn’t him.

The more I think of it, the more I think this is the sort of misdirection that this type of post represents.

Then again, I’m at the point where any news is imbued with significance it probably doesn’t warrant. I should prob just wait for them to announce.

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**Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/1158 "2024-08-05T01:30:27Z")

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It’s probably too late for an announcement today. (9:30pm on the East Coast.)

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**Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/1159 "2024-08-05T01:34:11Z")

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Either way, the will-s/he, won’t s/he tension and _reporting_ on it continues to serve Harris well, and helps offset the “wait until Tuesday” by increasing the tension. Less space for Trump’s oily goo to seep into otherwise moderate/independent facing news.

Good. As stated before by nearly everyone, the Democratic Party needs to use every single legal and advertising trick to attract people to the platform, encourage turn-out, and avoid turning OFF any winnable group (that isn’t already an out-and-out neo-fascist / bigot / racist POS, granted) because the consequences for NOT winning in 2024 are arguably far worse than not winning in 2020, given the damage SCOTUS has done and Trump’s stated intents.

Skillfully working the impressions of the VP, keeping tension high, and building respect for the “bench” has worked well, and hopefully they can keep pushing the higher energy and younger perspective against Trump to a win in November.

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**Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/1160 "2024-08-05T01:41:46Z")

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Events may have caught up with her. The Southeast isn’t going to be paying attention to announcements on Tuesday because they’ll be dealing with a Hurricane/Tropical Storm dumping absolutely ridiculous amounts of rain on already saturated soil. Any impact on GA, SC, or NC is going to be severely muted. Hell, large areas may not even have power to see the announcement.

But maybe they’re not focused on anywhere down here.

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> [@Zakalwe](#):
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> Events may have caught up with her. The Southeast isn’t going to be paying attention to announcements on Tuesday because they’ll be dealing with a Hurricane/Tropical Storm dumping absolutely ridiculous amounts of rain on already saturated soil.

Counterpoint though, it would be a _great_ opportunity for Harris (acting on both Biden and her own behalf) along with the newly chosen VP to be on-scene after the event, unless the political calculation is that it’s too “political”. I can’t imagine Trump doing much on the ground events, because, well, no huge crowd of adoring fans, and no grift.

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**Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/1162 "2024-08-05T02:03:10Z")

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> Counterpoint though, it would be a _great_ opportunity for Harris (acting on both Biden and her own behalf) along with the newly chosen VP to be on-scene after the event, unless the political calculation is that it’s too “political”.

I would consider it too political. If nothing else, the security around such a visit has a liklihood of disrupting recovery efforts and don’t think the 'Pubs won’t try to make hay out of that. Also, the storm won’t be clear of SC until late in the day on Friday (when it moves into NC and VA). There’s little chance she flies into the Big Bend while the storm is less than 200 miles away. With all that said, next week is a lifetime away and the VP pick will be old news by then.

Look there’s not an objectively right answer here. Most of the country and almost all of the ‘gettable’ states won’t feel the impact of Debby until long after the announcement if at all. But if her campaign has a (apologies) “Southern strategy” that includes GA, SC, and NC, then she’ll lose any potential bump from the announcement just based on people having bigger fish to fry.

Personally, I would have gone with an accelerated announcement “in the interests of getting this done and focusing efforts on protecting life and property in the face of this life-threatening event.” In other words, look and act _Presidential_. That’s the best argument against Trump because he literally has no idea how to do it and no inclination to do it even when it’s explained to him.

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> I can’t imagine Trump doing much on the ground events, because, well, no huge crowd of adoring fans, and no grift.

Plus, he’s too cheap to pay for the paper towels that are _de rigueur_ for his visits to the humble masses after a storm.

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The more I see Shapiro speak the more he annoys me because he sounds like he is doing a bad Obama impression. Has he always sounded like that? Anyway, that probably means that he will be the selection.

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