# Harris VP choice as she is the official presidential nominee of the Democratic Party for 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** kamala-harris\ **Created:** [July 21, 2024, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552 "2024-07-21T19:06:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/123 "2024-07-22T01:45:00Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > has Indiana ever elected a Democrat?) Joe Donnelly was last in office in 2013-2019. Evan Bayh was 1999-2011. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/124 "2024-07-22T01:46:42Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > which was mind-bogglingly scheduled to occur AFTER the date needed for a nominee to appear on several states’ ballots? > [@flurb](#): > > There was an issue with Ohio’s deadline, but that was fixed by the Ohio legislature. And, as I noted in another thread yesterday, it’s absolutely routine for one or both parties to have their conventions _after_ that Ohio ballot deadline; over the past six election cycles, both the Democrats and Republicans have only convened prior to the Ohio deadline twice each. Every time, it’s apparently been routinely addressed by the Ohio legislature passing a bill to provide an exemption. This year, with that legislature being GOP-controlled, there was some legitimate concern that they might not grant the exemption, but they did so, as @flurb notes. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/125 "2024-07-22T01:47:01Z")
Mayor Pete changed his residence to Michigan a couple years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/126 "2024-07-22T01:49:44Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > What’s the research on how much a VP home state residency buys anyway? I have some vague memory of Silver analyzing that once upon a time and concluding it was actually pretty negligible. I think the fact that Whitmer is super popular in Michigan means she can carry the state if she is the VP. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/127 "2024-07-22T01:50:11Z")
I heard recently that he and Chasten live in Traverse City. Some people have wanted Katie Porter to at least run, but I’ve heard that she is a brute to work with. I do like the idea of Mark Kelly being, well, someone’s running mate. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/128 "2024-07-22T01:50:23Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > Mayor Pete changed his residence to Michigan a couple years ago Wow, I’m a Michigander and had no idea. True. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/129 "2024-07-22T01:50:37Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Agreed. He’s never held elective office higher than Mayor of South Bend, IN. He should run for Congress / Senate next (…has Indiana ever elected a Democrat?) Hoosier here. Yeah, you’ve heard of the Bayh family, right? Father Birch and then son Evan. Evan was senator not too long ago. ---
**Author:** ![Seydell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Seydell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seydell)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/130 "2024-07-22T01:51:25Z")
The article states that a VP provides a bump of 2 to 3% for their home state. That may swing states like Michigan and Pennsylvania. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/131 "2024-07-22T01:54:02Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > Hoosier here. Yeah, you’ve heard of the Bayh family, right? Father Birch and then son Evan. Evan was senator not too long ago. Indiana’s come a long way since those days, unfortunately. Evan Bayh got crushed when he tried to reclaim his old Senate seat in 2016. There’s an open Senate seat this year that isn’t being seriously contested by Democrats. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/132 "2024-07-22T01:58:24Z")
> [@Thing.Fish](#): > > If people really want a LGBTQ President, they should be pushing Senator Tammy Baldwin, who would be an awesome candidate and President IMO. > > Whitmer doesn’t seem to want the job and I’m not sure an all-woman ticket would be wise. I would prefer [Jared Polis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Polis) (yes, I boost him, I like him as my Governor) as a pick for a LGBQT VP candidate, because he’s a white male, and slightly less of a target. He _might_ get a bit more crossover support, as he is absolutely on the conservative side of some issues as a “libertarian” leaning (prior to the RW takeover of the party) Democrat. But he has plenty of baggage of his own, not only being openly gay (which is +/- zero for this comparison, but still), Jewish, and supportive of challenges to Omar based on his perceptions of her bias. I’m not saying better or worse overall, but he’s the right age, the right gender and color to balance the ticket (I don’t WANT it to be an issue, but acknowledge it is) and has a shot of at least some techie/low tax but socially liberal sort. And Colorado is probably safely light blue enough to survive without him. But no, I don’t think he’d bring anything special (like delivering a state, region, or “military”) to the ticket either. Still, he absolutely wouldn’t be a “more of the same” candidate either. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/133 "2024-07-22T02:00:49Z")
Yeah, gotta change this. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/134 "2024-07-22T02:42:33Z")
Yeah. More significant than I had remembered. And biggest if a sitting governor or Senator. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/135 "2024-07-22T02:43:21Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > I don’t think she’ll announce it until it’s clear that she will be the nominee. What is not yet clear is whether that’ll already be an established fact (or at least an exceptionally likely probability) prior to the DNC (which is still another four weeks away). Someone mentioned that Ohio has a deadline before the convention. They have always voted to make it not a thing when a convention comes later but does anyone here think the republican controlled state won’t pull some shenanigans with this and say there is no dem on their ballot? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/136 "2024-07-22T02:47:34Z")
> [@psychobunny](#): > > I had said before that we needed a straight white guy from a swing state under 65 with executive experience but there aren’t a lot of them North Carolina Gov. Roy Cooper, Kentucky governor, Andy Beshear, Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro,Sherrod Brown (Ohio senator), Mark Kelly- all whom I listed- Okay, you say not Shapiro, that still leaves 4 good choices. > [@DWMarch](#): > > I like Mark Kelly and I think he’d be a great choice. Is it a big drawback to have both candidates be from the western side of the US? Not a drawback, since AZ is purple, but a rust belt or Southern dude would be a little better. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/137 "2024-07-22T02:49:41Z")
If Tina Kotek had a couple more years in as Governor of Oregon she might be a good pick for VP. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/138 "2024-07-22T02:53:16Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Sherrod Brown (Ohio senator) Brown is 71, so doesn’t meet @psychobunny ’s list. ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/139 "2024-07-22T02:57:26Z")
Mark Kelly was born and raised in New Jersey, fwiw. Not that they need to flip NJ. He’s also a twin! ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/140 "2024-07-22T02:57:40Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Someone mentioned that Ohio has a deadline before the convention. They have always voted to make it not a thing when a convention comes later but does anyone here think the republican controlled state won’t pull some shenanigans with this and say there is no dem on their ballot? Already answered (by me) a little while ago, in another thread. Short answer: actually, the Ohio Legislature has already passed a law giving the Democrats an exemption for this year, and yes, some Democrats are still wary of shenanigans regarding it. > [@President Biden Dropping Out of Race](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/president-biden-dropping-out-of-race/1004540/276): > > From what I read last night, this is kind of the issue; apparently, the law that the Ohio Legislature passed only goes into effect on September 1st, so some Democrats are leery of there being some shenanigans afoot. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/141 "2024-07-22T02:59:18Z")
> [@ZipperJJ](#): > > He’s also a twin! I can only imagine the conspiracy theories if he’s VP. ---
**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552/142 "2024-07-22T03:01:15Z")
If you go by my strict list, Sherrod Brown ( who I really like) and Cooper are too old, and Kelly doesn’t have executive experience. Kentucky is not a swing state and I personally don’t think that North Carolina is either. I think Shapiro could lose Michigan. I still think Kelly is my # 1. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harris-vp-choice-as-she-is-the-official-presidential-nominee-of-the-democratic-party-for-2024/1004552.md?page=8)