# Harris's father pushes back on comment made by daughter **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [February 21, 2019, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harriss-father-pushes-back-on-comment-made-by-daughter/829940 "2019-02-21T02:49:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harriss-father-pushes-back-on-comment-made-by-daughter/829940/21 "2019-02-21T19:48:00Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > Of course a Jamaican is going to support legalization—Jamaicans are all a bunch of pot-heads. > > You don’t see the problem with reinforcing that stereotype? No, but I do see a problem with reinforcing the stereotype that using or advocating the legalization of marijuana is a bad thing. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harriss-father-pushes-back-on-comment-made-by-daughter/829940/22 "2019-02-21T20:10:14Z")
> [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > What did she say that wasn’t true? She said she “inhaled” (tee hee). I doubt you have convincing evidence that that’s untrue. Then she said half her family is from Jamaica. Is that not true? Ok,she heavily implied that half her family was potheads. That is what she knew wasnt true. She wanted that bit to reach all the listeners, because even if she couched it as “half-joking” (which she did, and why “half” joking?), people knowing her family is Jamaican is all it takes. Ingrained stereotyping does the rest. Btw, your feigned ignorance isnt very convincing. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harriss-father-pushes-back-on-comment-made-by-daughter/829940/23 "2019-02-21T20:17:52Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > Namely that of being willing to say any damn thing she believes might help her win, truth of said statements be damned. Or, if not that specific, the general impression that she doesnt really believe in or stand for anything. Not for anything but herself. I think this can be said of pretty much _every_ politician. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harriss-father-pushes-back-on-comment-made-by-daughter/829940/24 "2019-02-21T20:28:30Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > I think this can be said of pretty much _every_ politician. Disagree. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harriss-father-pushes-back-on-comment-made-by-daughter/829940/25 "2019-02-21T20:39:33Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > people knowing her family is Jamaican is all it takes. Ingrained stereotyping does the rest. In the context of her explaining why she is pro-legalization of marijuana, that is. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harriss-father-pushes-back-on-comment-made-by-daughter/829940/26 "2019-02-21T20:44:01Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > If she played off a Black stereotype it wouldn’t be as easily shrugged off as just a joke. Would it play well if she answered about small business ownership with a reference to Quickimarts and an Apu imitation? ‘So, Senator, what’s your position on subsidies for watermelon farmers?’ ‘I’m in favor of them. Heck, half my fam - er, let me rephrase that…’ Regards, Shodan Disclaimer: Not a Harris fan, not a Jamaican, in favor of legalization, and not particularly offended but still willing to make a joke about it ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harriss-father-pushes-back-on-comment-made-by-daughter/829940/27 "2019-02-21T20:55:29Z")
Good grief! Threads like these make me think Liberals have become a parody of themselves. And I’m a Liberal. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harriss-father-pushes-back-on-comment-made-by-daughter/829940/28 "2019-02-21T21:13:13Z")
> [@Grrr](#): > > Good grief! Threads like these make me think Liberals have become a parody of themselves. > > And I’m a Liberal. What do you mean exactly? Im certainly not offended by the joke. It just highlights a flaw in the candidate, in my eyes, at least. For the reasons ive already given. See her father for one who was offended lol. ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harriss-father-pushes-back-on-comment-made-by-daughter/829940/29 "2019-02-21T21:18:11Z")
> [@Grrr](#): > > Good grief! Threads like these make me think Liberals have become a parody of themselves. > > And I’m a Liberal. Here, let me help you avoid thread-shitting: Specifically what parts of the whole thread are you criticizing and why? ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harriss-father-pushes-back-on-comment-made-by-daughter/829940/30 "2019-02-21T21:19:20Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > What do you mean exactly? Im certainly not offended by the joke. It just highlights a flaw in the candidate, in my eyes, at least. For the reasons ive already given. See her father for one who was offended lol. I wasn’t referring to you. I was referring to certain folks who get their panties in a twist over EVERY single piece of minutia that can be conceived of as “Stereotyping”, “Bigotry”, or “Misogyny”. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harriss-father-pushes-back-on-comment-made-by-daughter/829940/31 "2019-02-21T21:24:59Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > … But I do know that this story fits within\reinforces one of negative impressions I’ve had of Ms Harris since pretty much the beginning. Namely that of being willing to say any damn thing she believes might help her win, truth of said statements be damned. Or, if not that specific, the general impression that she doesnt really believe in or stand for anything. Not for anything but herself. Wow, if that’s an accurate description of Harris, Trump must be in awe of her as a rare kindred spirit! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harriss-father-pushes-back-on-comment-made-by-daughter/829940/32 "2019-02-21T21:27:57Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Wow, if that’s an accurate description of Harris, Trump must be in awe of her as a rare kindred spirit! 😃 I take it you disagree. Ok. Thanks fer playing! ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harriss-father-pushes-back-on-comment-made-by-daughter/829940/33 "2019-02-21T21:43:31Z")
> [@Grrr](#): > > I wasn’t referring to you. > > I was referring to certain folks who get their panties in a twist over EVERY single piece of minutia that can be conceived of as “Stereotyping”, “Bigotry”, or “Misogyny”. I didn’t think you were referring to me, but I was curious what you took exception to. And now that you’ve specified, I’ll note that there are only one or two posts from one or two posters that even slightly resemble your stated beef. Hardly the grounds to criticize the whole thread or liberals in general. What there is, though, is a whole lot of reflexively defensive posts that remind me of the reflexively defensive posts circa 2016. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harriss-father-pushes-back-on-comment-made-by-daughter/829940/34 "2019-02-21T21:44:37Z")
Btw, Trump _is_ all those things, just taken to mental-illness proportions and without intelligence. That’s why he sees Harris as his top (or one of his top) opponents for 2020. For all her flaws, Harris ain’t stupid. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harriss-father-pushes-back-on-comment-made-by-daughter/829940/35 "2019-02-21T22:03:10Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > I take it you disagree. Ok. Thanks fer playing! FTR, no, that wasn’t disagreement. I know almost nothing about Harris and I have no particular interest in advancing my knowledge in that regard. I just thought your description of her – which may well be true for all I know – was so perfectly Trumpian! ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harriss-father-pushes-back-on-comment-made-by-daughter/829940/36 "2019-02-21T22:29:55Z")
Let’s just reset this thread, shall we. Resolved: Cory Booker, who for some reason gets a lot of talk about his _authenticity_, has more authenticity in his pinkie finger than Kamala Harris. Why don’t we see the same kind of reflexively defensive posts about him on the issue of his authenticity? ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harriss-father-pushes-back-on-comment-made-by-daughter/829940/37 "2019-02-22T03:17:18Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > Ok,she heavily implied that half her family was potheads. That is what she knew wasnt true. She wanted that bit to reach all the listeners, because even if she couched it as “half-joking” (which she did, and why “half” joking?), people knowing her family is Jamaican is all it takes. Ingrained stereotyping does the rest. > > Btw, your feigned ignorance isnt very convincing. Oh, I see. I interpreted it to simply mean that having been exposed to Jamaican culture from childhood, she was familiar (not necessarily personally) with the practice of pot smoking and didn’t view it as a particularly bad thing. I certainly didn’t think that she was implying that her family themselves smoked. Like if you asked me how I felt about legalization, I might grin and say I grew up in Oregon. I would not mean to imply by that that “I grew up in Oregon and EVERYBODY THERE SMOKES WEED ALL THE TIME, DUDE! ESPECIALLY MY GRANDPARENTS!”. Just that the practice is more widespread and acceptable there than in most places. I still think my interpretation is much more reasonable. ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harriss-father-pushes-back-on-comment-made-by-daughter/829940/38 "2019-02-22T03:32:41Z")
> [@voltaire](#): > > Let’s just reset this thread, shall we. > > Resolved: Cory Booker, who for some reason gets a lot of talk about his _authenticity_, has more authenticity in his pinkie finger than Kamala Harris. Why don’t we see the same kind of reflexively defensive posts about him on the issue of his authenticity? Why “reset” this thread? Your question, like the OP to this one, would be more appropriately asked in the big Harris thread, or maybe in a new thread if you want to talk about Booker. ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harriss-father-pushes-back-on-comment-made-by-daughter/829940/39 "2019-02-22T03:37:44Z")
I didn’t see it, but I read that Harris’ rollout had some speeches in which she talked movingly about her mother. I guess we see why she decided to go that route.😃 So is this the first Presidential candidate in history whose father described their campaign as “a travesty”? I’m sure George Bush did, but I mean publicly. ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harriss-father-pushes-back-on-comment-made-by-daughter/829940/40 "2019-02-22T04:31:33Z")
> [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > Why “reset” this thread? Your question, like the OP to this one, would be more appropriately asked in the big Harris thread, or maybe in a new thread if you want to talk about Booker. Because the actual issue of the somewhat poorly-executed OP\* has to do with Kamala Harris’s authenticity. I thought offering someone to compare and contrast could be an interesting discussion instead of where we were. > [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > I didn’t see it, but I read that Harris’ rollout had some speeches in which she talked movingly about her mother. I guess we see why she decided to go that route.😃 > > So is this the first Presidential candidate in history whose father described their campaign as “a travesty”? I’m sure George Bush did, but I mean publicly. No? Unless there’s something I haven’t seen indicating otherwise, I’m pretty sure he did not refer to her campaign as a travesty. This does not sound to me like a father who would think that: [https://www.jamaicaglobalonline.com/kamala-harris-jamaican-heritage/](https://www.jamaicaglobalonline.com/kamala-harris-jamaican-heritage/) - Sorry Ambivalid, but I think you agree. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harriss-father-pushes-back-on-comment-made-by-daughter/829940.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harriss-father-pushes-back-on-comment-made-by-daughter/829940.md?page=3)