# Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2 discussion thread(spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 14, 2011, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-potter-and-the-deathly-hallows-part-2-discussion-thread-spoilers/588952 "2011-07-14T00:40:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 265
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2011, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-potter-and-the-deathly-hallows-part-2-discussion-thread-spoilers/588952/265 "2011-07-22T18:37:16Z")
> [@Danger! Danger! Do Not reveal your birthday to ChrisCTP!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/danger-danger-do-not-reveal-your-birthday-to-chrisctp/2322/13): > > No bridges at all in the book, so we’ll have to blame David Yates rather than JK Rowling. Fair enough. “Looks cool” trumps “makes sense”, at least to moviemakers. > [@eleanorigby](#): > > But that leaves more questions than it answers. To wit: that means that Ron and Harry et al gained the allegiances of various adult wands throughout their time at Hogwarts, no? I’m sure they disarmed more than Draco. Yes, as I said, this wand allegiance thing is a giant ass pull on the part of Rowling. She didn’t think it up until book 7 because she wanted a means of subverting the power of the Elder Wand, so she could put the most powerful wand in the hands of the most powerful and evil Wizard and have Harry win. He wins because the EW likes him better. [QUOTE=eleanorigby] Neville had the hat (I believe he was wearing it in the book), and that is the swords portkey, so to speak. [/QUOTE] > [@DesertDog](#): > > He was, in the book. After his defiant speech, Voldy summoned the hat from Dumbledore’s office, jammed it on Neville’s head, then ignited it. Painfully. It would have been better than Neville wandering around in a daze, hat in hand… Someone mentioned the sword showing up vs Neville having the sword hidden in the Sorting Hat. When Neville finds the Hat, he is looking it over and sees something shiny in it. That is the Sword. He was then waiting for the right time to pull it. It didn’t come to him at the moment he pulled it, but at the moment he picked up the Sorting Hat. > [@pancakes3](#): > > i didn’t think normal wands switched allegiances - only the EW. and when harry was talking about liking malfoy’s better, he was just being a dick. As previously quoted, yes all Wands are subject to changing allegiances. Don’t look behind the curtain, there’s just an old man there, nothing important. I thought Harry was just being a dick about liking Malfoy’s wand better, but then he didn’t fix his old wand (that we saw), so…? --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-potter-and-the-deathly-hallows-part-2-discussion-thread-spoilers/588952)._