# Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 16, 2001, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-potter-and-the-sorcerers-stone/82003 "2001-09-16T19:02:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![tritone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8e7dd6/32.png) [@tritone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tritone)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2001, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-potter-and-the-sorcerers-stone/82003/21 "2001-09-18T14:23:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Cyn \* > \*\*If Lily Potter had the power to protect her baby from Valdemort, she’d have to be a powerful witch; even moved by mother-love and desperation, as a Muggle she couldn’t throw a spell to divert a killing curse and have it bounce back on You-Know-Who. \*\* **POSSIBLE SPOILERS FOR BOOK 4** **Cyn** , Lily didn’t throw a spell at Voldemort to protect Harry; after all there is no counter-curse for the Avada Kedavra curse that killed Lily, and almost killed Harry (see book 4). Harry survived because she was prepared to sacrifice her life for him, and the strength of her love was stronger magic than any spell Voldemort could cast. **Max Torque** , I think that when Riddle/Voldemort refers to Lily as a muggle, he means that she was muggle-born (a Mudblood), which is what matters to him, after all. There was never any question in my mind that Lily was a witch, and a very good one. This is taken for granted throughout all the books, IIRC. Yes, I love the books just a bit and have read them all more than once 🙂 Yes, I am looking forward to the movie. But what I am really looking forward to is book 5, and I have to wait for it another YEAR! aaaaargh! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![SpaceGhostofArrakis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc348/32.png) [@SpaceGhostofArrakis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpaceGhostofArrakis)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2001, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-potter-and-the-sorcerers-stone/82003/22 "2001-09-18T22:58:07Z")
For the record, I went to the Harry Potter website…the sorting hat put me in Slytherin… wooohoo! ---
**Author:** ![LindyHopper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@LindyHopper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LindyHopper)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2001, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-potter-and-the-sorcerers-stone/82003/23 "2001-09-18T23:12:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by tritone \* > \*\*But what I am really looking forward to is book 5, and I have to wait for it another YEAR! aaaaargh! :eek: \*\* It was my understanding that Book 5 is due to come out to coincide with the opening of the movie for Book 1; i.e., in November. Is that not right? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2001, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-potter-and-the-sorcerers-stone/82003/24 "2001-09-18T23:40:21Z")
I’ve heard it is going to be delayed and not out until after Christmas; which must have her publishing house screaming in pain. Lily is consistently referred to as Muggle-born, not as a Muggle. There’s a huge difference. Harry is the only target who survived a direct confrontation with You-Know-Who. There are others (like Neville’s parents) who survived, after a fashion. ---
**Author:** ![JessEnigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/cdc98d/32.png) [@JessEnigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JessEnigma)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-potter-and-the-sorcerers-stone/82003/25 "2001-09-19T00:41:10Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Fiver \* > \*\* > Does anyone know if contracts have been signed for the _second_ movie? It seems like a very safe bet that the first movie will do well, and then think of it: they can make one movie a year, with the same cast, and each year the actors playing Harry and the other Hogwarts students will really be a year older, like they’re supposed to be. \*\* They’ve already started to film the second movie. [Here](http://www.empireonline.co.uk/news/news.asp?3380) is an article about how some of the filmed scenes for CoS had to be tossed because of some topless sunbathers. There’s some other articles on there, too. I didn’t bother to look around much, though. jessica ---
**Author:** ![tritone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8e7dd6/32.png) [@tritone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tritone)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-potter-and-the-sorcerers-stone/82003/26 "2001-09-19T01:41:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by LindyHopper \* > It was my understanding that Book 5 is due to come out to coincide with the opening of the movie for Book 1; i.e., in November. Is that not right? \*\* The word around here (Perth, Western Australia) is that it won’t arrive until about September next year - it might be a month or so earlier in more northern parts of the world 🙂 It was originally planned to coincide with the release of the movie, but apparently Rowling refused to be rushed. Obviously I’m glad that she’ll have time to do it properly, but I don’t know how I’m going to wait that long! ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-potter-and-the-sorcerers-stone/82003/27 "2001-09-19T06:22:02Z")
Quoth **SGoA** : > [@](#): > > For the record, I went to the Harry Potter website…the sorting hat put me in Slytherin… Gryffindor, here. Funny, but I was rather expecting Ravenclaw. ---
**Author:** ![Heath\_Doolin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Heath\_Doolin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heath_Doolin)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-potter-and-the-sorcerers-stone/82003/28 "2001-09-19T08:23:24Z")
Oh and to tell you, I hear the movie is practically a mirror of the book. So no good parts are left out for ‘timing’ and some crap like that. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 10:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-potter-and-the-sorcerers-stone/82003/29 "2001-09-19T10:27:12Z")
Latest word is that if all the book was kept in the film as filmed, it would be four hours long. Clearly, for a kids movie, that’s too long. It’ll be trimmed to around 2 hours (which is in itself unusually long for a children’s movie). Therefore, some scenes will be excised. Which? I dunno. Hopefully not the Mirror of Erised. ---
**Author:** ![G.B.H.Hornswoggler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c67d28/32.png) [@G.B.H.Hornswoggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G.B.H.Hornswoggler)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-potter-and-the-sorcerers-stone/82003/30 "2001-09-19T15:46:25Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by LindyHopper \* > It was my understanding that Book 5 is due to come out to coincide with the opening of the movie for Book 1; i.e., in November. Is that not right? \*\* The fifth book – currently listed as **Harry Potter and The Order of the Phoenix** – may be published next summer, but even that’s a guess. Its US publisher (Scholastic) doesn’t have a manuscript yet, and doesn’t even have a date for manuscript delivery. So it’s definitely _not_ coming for the movie release. ---
**Author:** ![phouka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c5a1d2/32.png) [@phouka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phouka)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-potter-and-the-sorcerers-stone/82003/31 "2001-09-19T23:11:45Z")
**Chronos** , my post gives a little background on Voldemort that comes out in Book 4, so it could be considered a spoiler. My abject, groveling apology for not putting a spoiler warning in. I would hate to ruin anyone’s fun. After two - _ **TWO** _ - readings, my kids are asking every day if I’ll read them Harry Potter. I’m settling for Tuesday/Thursday and maybe Friday if they’re good. Wow. This is so cool . . . ---
**Author:** ![bourbonstew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3e96dc/32.png) [@bourbonstew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bourbonstew)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2001, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-potter-and-the-sorcerers-stone/82003/32 "2001-09-20T06:54:11Z")
Does anyone know the proper way to pronounce Hermione’s name ? While reading the books, I always thought _HER-me-o-ni or HER-me-ohn_, BUT listened to the unabridged audiobook version of **Prisoner of Azkaban** and the English guy who read it (and did a great job, btw) pronounced it _her-MAHN-ee_. Since then, her-MAHN-ee sounds correct. Not being familiar with this name, what is the pronunciation ? Has anyone heard Rowling pronounce it ? ---
**Author:** ![Theobroma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5a626/32.png) [@Theobroma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Theobroma)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2001, 9:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-potter-and-the-sorcerers-stone/82003/33 "2001-09-20T09:03:23Z")
Hermione = her-MY-o-nee. Like Hermione Baddely, or Hermione Gingold. (actresses) Next book comes out when Joanne Rowling finishes writing it. BTW, try the sorting hat again…the questions don’t matter, it’s a random house generator (har har har). Next time you try, answer the questions the same way, you might get in Ravenclaw or Griffindor! I have read that the second movie is in pre-production, racing against the impending puberty of the stars. The third movie will start after the second, if (and only if) the first one is a big hit. If the first one is a disappointment, the second one will likely be made, but no more after that. The Vanity Fair spread looks great! I’m dying from antici(pause)pation my own self! ---
**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2001, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-potter-and-the-sorcerers-stone/82003/34 "2001-09-20T18:25:17Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by bourbonstew \* > **Does anyone know the proper way to pronounce Hermione’s name ?** Well… presumably Hermione does, and in Goblet of Fire she teaches one of the foreign students to pronounce it. It’s a cute scene, but I can’t quote it, so somebody will have to look it up. ---
**Author:** ![bourbonstew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3e96dc/32.png) [@bourbonstew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bourbonstew)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2001, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-potter-and-the-sorcerers-stone/82003/35 "2001-09-21T05:05:36Z")
Thanks, **TDG**. That would have to be definitive. I haven’t read _Goblet_ yet. Also thanks to **Theobroma**. Sounds likely but I’ll have to check the book. Wonder why the voice artist used ‘her-MAHN-ee’? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-potter-and-the-sorcerers-stone/82003.md?page=1)