# Harry Potter is EVIL!

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 25, 2003, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-potter-is-evil/184297 "2003-06-25T14:26:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2003, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-potter-is-evil/184297/41 "2003-06-26T12:47:52Z")

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> \*Originally posted by vanilla \*  
> \*\*Not all, young man.  
> I am a fundie, yet I am now interested in reading the latest Potter book … \*\*

Well, sure. _Now_ you are. But not long ago you too thought Harry Potter was evil. After a steady diet of the Straight Dope Message Board you had a chance to reconsider.

Unfortunately, most fundamentalist haven’t been exposed to The Dope.

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2003, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-potter-is-evil/184297/42 "2003-06-26T13:53:50Z")

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Why do they call it \*slash \*?

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> Unfortunately, most fundamentalist haven’t been exposed to The Dope.

Cause the bible didn’t tell them so.

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**Author:** ![Rube\_E.Tewesday](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f0a364/32.png) [@Rube\_E.Tewesday](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rube_E.Tewesday)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2003, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-potter-is-evil/184297/43 "2003-06-26T13:54:28Z")

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> \*Originally posted by asterion \*  
> \*\*If I can interject here, if the check was not yet deposited (in other words, still in the store and available) why not just take the books back, destroy the check, and tell them to go on their merry way? \*\*

I don’t think that was what was meant – I think that the check had been taken to the bank, but had not yet cleared the system, which I gather in the States can take several days.

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**Author:** ![DeadlyAccurate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac91a4/32.png) [@DeadlyAccurate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadlyAccurate)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2003, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-potter-is-evil/184297/44 "2003-06-26T14:02:01Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Trion \*  
> \*\*Well, sure. _Now_ you are. But not long ago you too thought Harry Potter was evil. After a steady diet of the Straight Dope Message Board you had a chance to reconsider. \*\*

Now I _know_ I’ve been on this board too long. I actually remember the thread about this.

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2003, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-potter-is-evil/184297/45 "2003-06-26T14:05:00Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Sivalensis, back in the OP \*  
> \*\*A couple minutes later her friends came back in, said she was cooling off outside (on the phone to who knows who) and took the credit from the books.  
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Recommend some books to her, so she can spend that credit. I suggest _The Necronomicon._ 🙂

[www.rinkworks.com](http://www.rinkworks.com) has a section called “Book-A-Minute,” where they ultra-condense literary works. For _Harry Potter and the Philosopher’s Stone_, they did both the primary tale, for people who read the book, and the secondary tale, for people who didn’t read the book. I think the lady in the OP has been reading the secondary tale in all the HP books.

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2003, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-potter-is-evil/184297/46 "2003-06-26T14:26:36Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Scuba\_Ben \*  
> \*\*Recommend some books to her, so she can spend that credit. I suggest _The Necronomicon._ 🙂
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> [www.rinkworks.com](http://www.rinkworks.com) has a section called “Book-A-Minute,” where they ultra-condense literary works. For _Harry Potter and the Philosopher’s Stone_, \*\*

Due to concerns that we Yanks wouldn’t know what the philosophers’ stone was, it was changed to sorceror’s stone. Until somebody told me the original title I kept wondering what the heck the sorceror’s stone was.

Why the change?  
Who doesn’t know about the philosophers’ stone?

First you get yourself some prima materia. This rots and blackens in the negredo stage. Then it whitens in the alfredo stage. Next is the stage of many colors. Finally, it turns red in the rubedo stage and you’re all set to turn lead into gold, make potions of immortality, change man into superman, and get free cable.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2003, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-potter-is-evil/184297/47 "2003-06-26T14:57:18Z")

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Check scam, all the way. Oh, you betcha; it’s a transparently obvious theft attempt.

I can certainly believe a fundamentalist would go apeshit over Harry Potter books, but the evidence as presented says it was a scam.

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**Author:** ![BrightNShiny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@BrightNShiny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrightNShiny)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2003, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-potter-is-evil/184297/48 "2003-06-26T15:06:53Z")

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> _The Gaspode:_  
> How about some HP/Draco slash?

This is truly evil. No way would Draco do anything with that dweeb Harry Potter.

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> _Shirley Ujest:_  
> Why do they call it slash ?

Just a guess, but I think it’s because there’s a slash mark between the names of the two characters who are getting it on.

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**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2003, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-potter-is-evil/184297/49 "2003-06-26T19:10:58Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \*  
> \*\*Oh, **vanilla** , you put the “fun” in fundamentalist!
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> 😃 \*\*

or the fundame ntalist!

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**Author:** ![whiterabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/cab0a1/32.png) [@whiterabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whiterabbit)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2003, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-potter-is-evil/184297/50 "2003-06-26T20:11:23Z")

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> \*Originally posted by masonite \*  
> \*\*Here you go. [http://www.balaams-ass.com/journal/homemake/lewisale.htm](http://www.balaams-ass.com/journal/homemake/lewisale.htm)
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> (sorry about this) \*\*

I only wish I was surprised!

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**Author:** ![SisterCoyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@SisterCoyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SisterCoyote)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2003, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-potter-is-evil/184297/51 "2003-06-26T20:32:02Z")

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> **Just a guess, but I think it’s because there’s a slash mark between the names of the two characters who are getting it on.**

Got it in one: read aloud, that would be “aitchpee slash draco”

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**Author:** ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2003, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-potter-is-evil/184297/52 "2003-06-26T21:04:19Z")

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Oh, Harry Potter IS evil.

It says so here

[http://www.christiananswers.net/catalog/potter-vs.html](http://www.christiananswers.net/catalog/potter-vs.html)

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> Matrisciana encourages Christians in her new hour-long documentary video to take an honest look at the world children fantasize about when reading Rowling’s books. Through Harry Potter books and audios, children as young as kindergarten age are being introduced to human sacrifice, the sucking of blood from dead animals, possession by spirit beings, and satanic ritual.

and here  
[http://owl.owu.edu/harrypotter.html](http://owl.owu.edu/harrypotter.html)

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> These books entrance readers, especially our vulnerable young. There are many dangerous elements within the sinful books but we will name only the most insidious here. The single most menacing aspect of the books lies at their core: Harry is a wizard and his decadent wizard lifestyle encourages young readers to turn from the good faith in order to dabble in the occult. Even a slight interest will quickly fester into an all-encompassing obsession with necromancy. Soon, spurred by Rowlings abominations, our children will turn into bloodthirsty fiends, worshiping the dark arts and submitting to carnal ceremonies of blood and pain.

Nobody notice the increasing number of children turning into bloodthirsty fiends after Parts 1 to four came out?  
No I mean AFTER they got their little hands on a copy? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2003, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-potter-is-evil/184297/53 "2003-06-26T21:19:27Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Maastricht \*  
> \*\*Oh, Harry Potter IS evil.
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> It says so here
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> [http://www.christiananswers.net/catalog/potter-vs.html](http://www.christiananswers.net/catalog/potter-vs.html)
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> and here  
> [http://owl.owu.edu/harrypotter.html](http://owl.owu.edu/harrypotter.html)
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> Nobody notice the increasing number of children turning into bloodthirsty fiends after Parts 1 to four came out?  
> No I mean AFTER they got their little hands on a copy? :dubious: \*\*

Anyone remember the part where the bad guys are glorified and held up as role models that kids should emulate?

Me neither.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Bob\_Scene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Bob\_Scene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bob_Scene)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2003, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-potter-is-evil/184297/54 "2003-06-26T21:31:58Z")

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**Sivalensis,** I’m sorry you had to deal with such a lame fundy. If she had been one of the cool ones, she would have started speaking loudly in tongues, rolled her eyes back in her head, and tried to cast the evil spirit of Harry Potter out of you and the whole store. Better luck next time.

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**Author:** ![green\_dragon\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/13edae/32.png) [@green\_dragon\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/green_dragon_1)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2003, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-potter-is-evil/184297/55 "2003-06-26T23:12:06Z")

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Right at the bottom of the link regarding CS Lewis, they mentioned JRR Tolkien…was HE supposed to be evil too? Has there been outrage over the LOTR books/films/games?

Sorry about the hijack, I just HAVE to know 🙂

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**Author:** ![BrightNShiny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@BrightNShiny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrightNShiny)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2003, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-potter-is-evil/184297/56 "2003-06-26T23:38:08Z")

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Look, what you all have to realize is that pretty much everything you read and everything you do is evil and the work of Satan. Once you realize this, the fundie’s job will be much simpler.

The poor fundie is like the hero in that movie “They Live.” The hero had special glasses that allowed him to see that the aliens were everywhere. The fundie has God’s special glasses (the Bible) that allows them to see Satan everywhere. See? Of course you don’t. You don’t have the special glasses.

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**Author:** ![look\_ninjas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b2d939/32.png) [@look\_ninjas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/look_ninjas)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2003, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-potter-is-evil/184297/57 "2003-06-26T23:59:08Z")

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**Maastricht** : I found the source for your second link ([link](http://owl.owu.edu/excerpts.html)), and thank God, it’s an “ironic essay.” Is the author of the essay just bad at being sarcastic? Or are the fundies really that crazy?

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**Author:** ![BrightNShiny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@BrightNShiny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrightNShiny)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2003, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-potter-is-evil/184297/58 "2003-06-27T00:04:38Z")

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> The poor fundie is like the hero in that movie “They Live.” The hero had special glasses that allowed him to see that the aliens were everywhere. The fundie has God’s special glasses (the Bible) that allows them to see Satan everywhere. See? Of course you don’t. You don’t have the special glasses.

Yuck. Sorry. That really should be:

The fundie has God’s special glasses **(the Bible, the Koran, the Vedas or whatever book you choose)** that allows them to see Satan everywhere.

I certainly shouldn’t be singling out Christian fundie’s for my sarcasm. Carry on.

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**Author:** ![drachillix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/48db29/32.png) [@drachillix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drachillix)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2003, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-potter-is-evil/184297/59 "2003-06-27T01:17:05Z")

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> \*Originally posted by look!ninjas \*  
> Or are the fundies really that crazy? \*\*

As a Scholastic employee I can tell you…this is nothing new.

The last major upheaval like this in childrens books I recall was due to the Goosebumps series.

It was IN-FUCKING-SANE:

We had a guy come into our warehouse and start throwing goosebumps books off the shelves all over the floor and screaming about how we were leading all the innocent lambs to satan’s doorstep. Luckily he wasn’t real big and removal was easy enough for us warehouse types (watch that first step off the loading doooooooooooooooooooooooooooock…Thump).

We had several incidents where sales people were disciplined for refusing to sell/promote Goosebumps books, one of them who still works for us refuses to promote Harry Potter materials but at least now she doesn’t tell people we are out of stock and suggest more “fundie-friendly” titles.

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**Author:** ![viking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@viking](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/viking)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2003, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-potter-is-evil/184297/60 "2003-06-27T01:39:38Z")

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My favourite (sorry, no link) is where a fundie site cites the onion’s parody of fundy sites as `proof’ that harry potter _is_ turning kids to satanism…

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