# Harry Reid has some very harsh words for Trump **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 11, 2016, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-has-some-very-harsh-words-for-trump/771509 "2016-11-11T16:46:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-has-some-very-harsh-words-for-trump/771509/21 "2016-11-11T20:17:58Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > Pence, I’ve even heard Huckabee touted? > Forget the swamp, they are so full of despicable fecal bigotry they could bathe in a sewer and come out cleaner. But, again – what am I missing, here? Trump announced _months_ ago that Pence was the septuagenarian’s choice to be a heartbeat away from the presidency; didn’t we already know that Trump was super peachy keen on Pence? If you’d grabbed me by the lapels and asked me to name one guy who (a) had spent more than a decade in Congress before spending years as a Governor, and who (b) had Trump’s seal of approval, I would’ve of course replied _“Mike Pence, the former Chair of the House Republican Conference”_ last week, and the week before that, and last month, and the month before that. ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-has-some-very-harsh-words-for-trump/771509/22 "2016-11-11T20:23:41Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > I mean, we already knew he’d picked Pence as his VP; and I guess we already knew that Christie was going to be his transition guy – but now it’s Pence? It kinda seems like the sentence you should’ve quoted would’ve been one where they flatly state that Pence is, uh, swampier than Christie, right? I think the subtext here is that Trump’s SIL Jared Kushner (husband of Ivanka) has a lot of influence with Trump. Jared’s father is a rich guy by the name of [Charles Kushner](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Kushner). Chris Christie once prosecuted, convicted and jailed Charles Kushner. Therefore, Jared Kushner is not kindly disposed to Chris Christie. It’s a tough situation for Trump. ---
**Author:** ![UberArchetype](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/2bfe46/32.png) [@UberArchetype](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UberArchetype)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-has-some-very-harsh-words-for-trump/771509/23 "2016-11-11T20:26:58Z")
Lots of people are feeling emboldened and just as many are feeling afraid. They are all stupid if they truly believe any one election will engender some sort of apocalyptic sea-change in American affairs. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-has-some-very-harsh-words-for-trump/771509/24 "2016-11-11T20:36:44Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > I think the subtext here is that Trump’s SIL Jared Kushner (husband of Ivanka) has a lot of influence with Trump. Well – okay, I guess. I mean, speaking as a Jew, I guess I’m glad to hear that Kushner has a lot of influence with Trump; and, speaking as an American, I guess I’m glad to hear that _anyone_ with better impulse control than Trump has a lot of influence over Trump; but speaking as someone who’s often made mention of [that oft-mentioned NYT article](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/20/magazine/how-donald-trump-picked-his-running-mate.html)… > [@](#): > > Donald Jr. wanted to make him an offer nonetheless: Did he have any interest in being the most powerful vice president in history? > > When Kasich’s adviser asked how this would be the case, Donald Jr. explained that his father’s vice president would be in charge of domestic and foreign policy. > > Then what, the adviser asked, would Trump be in charge of? > > “Making America great again” was the casual reply. …I guess I’d kinda sorta already been figuring that, if Trump was going to defer to _anybody_ on stuff great and small, it was totally going to be Pence. (I mean, yeah, that’s assuming the reporter was telling the truth about that source; and assuming said source was telling the truth about Donald Jr; and assuming Donald Jr was telling the truth about Donald Sr; and assuming Donald Sr was telling the truth about _that_. But, still: Trump picked this guy from among all others to be his VP! How can it possibly be a surprise to find out he’d pick the guy for stuff like this?) ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-has-some-very-harsh-words-for-trump/771509/25 "2016-11-11T21:05:13Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > He called for the execution of black teens after they were found innocent by DNA. Is that in reference to the ad Trump took out in the New York Daily News in 1989 with the headline “BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY. BRING BACK OUR POLICE!"? ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-has-some-very-harsh-words-for-trump/771509/26 "2016-11-11T21:23:58Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > **Shodan** , > I don’t want to link to it from here but that [deadstate.org](http://deadstate.org) page has a link to a KKK site about the rally. Yeah, it’s missing some info but why post it if it’s not happening? Are you saying that there is no planned rally and they’re lying? Your cite says > [@](#): > > A spokeswoman for the group, who provided us with the name Amanda, said the parade would be “unannounced.” She did not give us any further information, such as the event’s time or specific location, other than to say it will take place in North Carolina. > > The KKK representative was responding to our inquiry as to whether the group had held a Trump victory rally on 9 November 2016 on a freeway overpass in the city of Mebane. She confirmed they had not, but she alerted us to the upcoming parade. So no, the Nazis confirmed that there was no rally, and wouldn’t tell Snopes the location of the alleged parade on Dec. 3, somewhere in North Carolina. Maybe that terrifies some people, but my shorts remain dry. > [@aag3981](#): > > Here are some other fun examples… > > [People Share Frightening Images In The Aftermath Of Trump's Victory | HuffPost](https://www.google.com/amp/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_582497afe4b0cdd5e7e99e86/amp) I don’t know if I would call it “fun”. Nonetheless, the first example they mention is pro-Trump chalk in front of a library. The horror. The next one is a woman who alleges a second-hand anecdote of an unnamed black woman who claims some people yelled slurs at her from a truck. I suspect a journalist would refer to this as “unconfirmed”. It goes on to the horrors of a Simpson reference, and then some kindergartners who were mean to each other. There were some more atrocities - someone wrote Trump! on a door, and some young people who might or might not have been students appeared in blackface on the University of Oregon. That soup’s a little thin, especially since on the other side, we have riots, burning effigies, and beating someone because he said he voted for Trump. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-has-some-very-harsh-words-for-trump/771509/27 "2016-11-11T21:24:29Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Is that in reference to the ad Trump took out in the New York Daily News in 1989 with the headline “BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY. BRING BACK OUR POLICE!"? Yes, the (innocent) [Central Park Five](http://www.newyorker.com/news/amy-davidson/donald-trump-and-the-central-park-five). ---
**Author:** ![ganthet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de0a6/32.png) [@ganthet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ganthet)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-has-some-very-harsh-words-for-trump/771509/28 "2016-11-11T21:34:45Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Is that in reference to the ad Trump took out in the New York Daily News in 1989 with the headline “BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY. BRING BACK OUR POLICE!"? It’s referring to [this](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-central-park-five-are-guilty/): [QUOTE=CBS News] In 2002, the convictions of the five known as the “Central Park Five” were overturned after an imprisoned serial rapist, Matias Reyes, confessed to the 1989 rape and beating of a New York City woman. DNA linked Reyes to the rape, while none of the the five - who were aged 14 to 16 at the time of the crime - were connected through DNA. The exonerated men had long claimed they were coerced as teenagers to confess, after being denied food and sleep for dozens of hours. In the days after the rape, Trump took out full-page ads in four New York papers calling for a return to the death penalty, and has continued to defend the original investigation of the case years after the convictions were overturned. “The police doing the original investigation say they were guilty. The fact that that case was settled with so much evidence against them is outrageous. And the woman, so badly injured, will never be the same,” Trump said in the statement to CNN. [/quote] ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-has-some-very-harsh-words-for-trump/771509/29 "2016-11-11T22:02:34Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > That soup’s a little thin, especially since on the other side, we have riots, burning effigies, and beating someone because he said he voted for Trump. Oh, that poor effigy. It’ll be in therapy for years. As for the riots, well, riots last hours, but I’m pretty sure that the beatings Trump supporters are delivering to those who aren’t Republican and pink will continue until morale improves. I believe I know the beating you’re referring to; shameful, but at least he didn’t get bashed over the head with a beer bottle and left for dead in an alleyway before being found and taken to a hospital to get his head stapled back together. That’s how Trump supporters treat gay people now, it seems. One can hope that the beating and murder of a Saudi kid in Wisconsin ten days ago is coincidence, but I’m not a big believer in either hope or coincidence. I can find reports of other incidences of assault and robbery and death threats if you like, but I suspect it wouldn’t make a difference. Let us not play “both sides do it” until footage of the victory parade the Klan threw for Obama surfaces. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2016, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-has-some-very-harsh-words-for-trump/771509/30 "2016-11-12T00:39:58Z")
> [@ganthet](#): > > It’s referring to [this](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-central-park-five-are-guilty/): Thanks, ganthet. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2016, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-has-some-very-harsh-words-for-trump/771509/31 "2016-11-12T15:07:00Z")
All Trump has to do is sneer, “Hey Harry, I WON, didn’t I?” Harry will get the joke, even if most SDMB regulars don’t." ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2016, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-has-some-very-harsh-words-for-trump/771509/32 "2016-11-12T16:55:56Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > All Trump has to do is sneer, “Hey Harry, I WON, didn’t I?” > > Harry will get the joke, even if most SDMB regulars don’t." Okay I’ll bite. What is the joke? (Not that any of this is the least bit funny.) Is it just simply that he won and doesn’t care about Reid’s opinion, or something more subtle. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2016, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-has-some-very-harsh-words-for-trump/771509/33 "2016-11-12T19:05:39Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > Okay I’ll bite. What is the joke? (Not that any of this is the least bit funny.) Is it just simply that he won and doesn’t care about Reid’s opinion, or something more subtle. More subtle. Google Reid, Mitt Romney, and “He didn’t win, did he?” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-has-some-very-harsh-words-for-trump/771509.md?page=1)