# Harry Reid is a dirty liar **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 1, 2016, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-is-a-dirty-liar/770353 "2016-11-01T12:25:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-is-a-dirty-liar/770353/1 "2016-11-01T12:25:35Z")
> **[Investigating Donald Trump, F.B.I. Sees No Clear Link to Russia (Published 2016)](https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/01/us/politics/fbi-russia-election-donald-trump.html?_r=0)** > > After lengthy investigations, officials also believe that a hacking of Democratic emails was aimed at disrupting the election rather than electing Mr. Trump. I’ve never understood how Democrats can have this prick as their Senate leader. Dirtiest guy in the Senate. He lied about Romney’s tax returns, and not two days after making false accusations against Trump and the FBI regarding Russia, the FBI finds no ties between Trump and Russia. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-is-a-dirty-liar/770353/2 "2016-11-01T12:53:26Z")
My theory is that it’s a subtle yet elaborate trolling of the average House Republican Tea Party member. But it’s good to know that you expect a Democrat to hold higher standards of truth than a significant number of the House of Representatives. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-is-a-dirty-liar/770353/3 "2016-11-01T12:54:33Z")
Reid goes just a bit farther than your average politician of any party. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-is-a-dirty-liar/770353/4 "2016-11-01T13:04:52Z")
Reid is right - Putin is obviously [pulling the strings](http://www.fox13news.com/trending/214747447-story) in this election. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-is-a-dirty-liar/770353/5 "2016-11-01T13:15:37Z")
From the _NYT_ article: > [@](#): > > Law enforcement officials say that none of the investigations so far have found any conclusive or direct link between Mr. Trump and the Russian government. And even the hacking into Democratic emails, F.B.I. and intelligence officials now believe, was aimed at disrupting the presidential election rather than electing Mr. Trump. So, the investigation is ongoing. Why hasn’t the director of the FBI made some public announcements on this dangerous situation? Trying to disrupt the election–even if the FBI don’t _currently_ think Trump is the beneficiary–is worth discussing. In fact, worth shouting from the rooftops. Why aren’t we hearing details on how no “conclusive” or “direct” links have been found between Trump & Russia–“so far”? Is merely flirting with treason OK? ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-is-a-dirty-liar/770353/6 "2016-11-01T13:15:45Z")
Reid could be right about that, but he actually said the FBI was sitting on bombshell information that they wouldn’t reveal, yet they would talk about Clinton. Reid wasn’t trying to troll republicans. he was trying to sow doubts about the impartiality of the FBI. How is that any better than what Trump’s been doing in regards to the election? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-is-a-dirty-liar/770353/7 "2016-11-01T13:16:19Z")
What was his actual statement about Trump and Russia? Did it have the same scope as the FBI’s statement? The FBI’s statement would necessarily be restricted to legally-actionable ties, but Reid’s statement could encompass links like Trump admiring Putin, or Putin hoping that Trump wins. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-is-a-dirty-liar/770353/8 "2016-11-01T13:25:26Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Reid goes just a bit farther than your average politician of any party. If we looked at some fact checking website and compared Reid’s statements to a group of Tea Party Republicans (e.g., put together the evaluated statement of King, Cruz, Gohmert, etc), who do you think would come out as more truthful? I haven’t looked, but I’d bet you that those Tea Party types are much worse in terms of conspiracy theories, misstatements, lies, and so on. I’m not saying this as a defense of Reid’s tendency to go totally overboard with some things he says. I’m saying that I bet that the Tea Party types are probably much worse than him. And I’m not even getting into talking about Trump, who seems to be allergic to facts. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-is-a-dirty-liar/770353/9 "2016-11-01T13:26:51Z")
Haven’t candidates in the past been brought down because of a single “Russian” donor or the like? But here’s a guy whose business interests are intertwined with the New Motherland and who is spouting the Russian line on US politics like a streetcorner commie in the 1950s… and it doesn’t even faze his followers? ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-is-a-dirty-liar/770353/10 "2016-11-01T13:34:08Z")
It is worse than that. Putin has been openly threatening Nuclear War on the USA if Hillary Clinton is elected. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-is-a-dirty-liar/770353/11 "2016-11-01T13:38:51Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > It is worse than that. Putin has been openly threatening Nuclear War on the USA if Hillary Clinton is elected. There’s a difference between a foreign power taking a stand (the US certainly hasn’t remained mum about many elections in other lands), and a US candidate parroting the foreign power’s propaganda, after having lengthy business ties with that country. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-is-a-dirty-liar/770353/12 "2016-11-01T13:40:39Z")
The fact that Trump likes Putin is not debateable. The idea that there is actual illegality going on, and that the FBI has evidence of such illegality but won’t reveal it, was so egregrious that Reid’s pants should really be on fire right now. This is not like an irresponsible Republican making wild accusations against Clinton. “She killed Vince Foster!” This is claiming that the country’s top law enforcement officials KNOW she killed Vince Foster but aren’t revealing it. He’s slandered not just Trump, but also the FBI itself. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-is-a-dirty-liar/770353/13 "2016-11-01T14:31:21Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > It is worse than that. Putin has been openly threatening Nuclear War on the USA if Hillary Clinton is elected. I missed this - did you have a cite? Especially the “openly” part. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-is-a-dirty-liar/770353/14 "2016-11-01T14:32:47Z")
If liberals actually thought he meant it they’d be rushing to appease him by voting for Trump. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-is-a-dirty-liar/770353/15 "2016-11-01T15:01:03Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > I missed this - did you have a cite? Especially the “openly” part. > > Regards, > Shodan I was gonna ask a cite for that, too. The one I heard was Vladimir Zhirinovsky saying that, not Putin. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-is-a-dirty-liar/770353/16 "2016-11-01T15:07:43Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > If we looked at some fact checking website and compared Reid’s statements to a group of Tea Party Republicans (e.g., put together the evaluated statement of King, Cruz, Gohmert, etc), who do you think would come out as more truthful? I haven’t looked, but I’d bet you that those Tea Party types are much worse in terms of conspiracy theories, misstatements, lies, and so on. > > I’m not saying this as a defense of Reid’s tendency to go totally overboard with some things he says. I’m saying that I bet that the Tea Party types are probably much worse than him. > > And I’m not even getting into talking about Trump, who seems to be allergic to facts. You don’t even need to go to Tea Party Republicans, just his counterpart in the Senate, Mr. Senator Turtle. “We did a dumb thing, and Obama vetoed it while explaining why it was a dumb thing. We overrode his veto anyway, then realized we did a dumb thing. OBAMA’S FAULT!” I mean, yeah, Reid’s a jackass, but have you paid ANY attention to the asshattery he’s been working against? ---
**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-is-a-dirty-liar/770353/17 "2016-11-01T19:56:13Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Reid goes just a bit farther than your average politician of any party. Hence the leadership role. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-is-a-dirty-liar/770353/18 "2016-11-01T20:43:29Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > He lied about Romney’s tax returns [That came from Jon Huntsman’s father.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/31/jon-huntsman-sr-romney-taxes_n_4184334.html)[Here’s what he actually said](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/31/jon-huntsman-sr-romney-taxes_n_4184334.html), not that you actually care about lying: > [@](#): > > In a July 2012 interview with The Huffington Post, Reid said a Bain Capital investor had told him that the former Massachusetts governor “didn’t pay any taxes for 10 years.” > > “He didn’t pay taxes for 10 years! Now, do I know that that’s true? Well, I’m not certain,” Reid said. “But obviously he can’t release those tax returns. How would it look?” What is this with Republicans not wanting anyone to see their tax returns? > [@](#): > > false accusations against Trump and the FBI regarding Russia You merely \*hope \*they’re false. Enough facts regarding Manafort have already come out that an honest person would not have said what you just have. > [@](#): > > the FBI finds no ties between Trump and Russia. Already debunked. In conclusion: \*\*adaher \*\*is a dirty liar. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-is-a-dirty-liar/770353/19 "2016-11-01T21:45:21Z")
Interesting (not really) how all this ONCE AGAIN is strictly along party lines. I don’t give a shit if Clinton’s aide somehow has emails involving Weiner (and his wiener again) and whoever else. I’m sick of the email non-issue (the FBI ruled it a non-issue already). Just like I’m sick of the Benghazi horse shit. I want to know about Trump’s ties to Russia, and the connection between Trump Tower and Alfa bank of Russia. And I want to know why he has his tongue so far up Putin’s ass. As for the “vote for Trump or go to war” … 10/12/2016 > [@](#): > > MOSCOW, Oct 12 (Reuters) - Americans should vote for Donald Trump as president next month or risk being dragged into a nuclear war, according to a Russian ultra-nationalist ally of President Vladimir Putin who likes to compare himself to the U.S. Republican candidate. > Vladimir Zhirinovsky, a flamboyant veteran lawmaker known for his fiery rhetoric, told Reuters in an interview that Trump was the only person able to de-escalate dangerous tensions between Moscow and Washington. > By contrast, Trump’s Democratic rival Hillary Clinton could spark World War Three, said Zhirinovsky, who received a top state award from Putin after his pro-Kremlin Liberal Democratic Party of Russia (LDPR) came third in Russia’s parliamentary election last month. > Many Russians regard Zhirinovsky as a clownish figure who makes outspoken statements to grab attention but he is also widely viewed as a faithful servant of Kremlin policy, sometimes used to float radical opinions to test public reaction. > “Relations between Russia and the United States can’t get any worse. The only way they can get worse is if a war starts,” said Zhirinovsky, speaking in his huge office on the 10th floor of Russia’s State Duma, or lower house of parliament. > “Americans voting for a president on Nov. 8 must realize that they are voting for peace on Planet Earth if they vote for Trump. But if they vote for Hillary it’s war. It will be a short movie. There will be Hiroshimas and Nagasakis everywhere.” > Zhirinovsky’s comments coincide with deep disagreements between Washington and Moscow over Syria and Ukraine and after the White House last week accused Russia of a campaign of cyber attacks against Democratic Party organizations. > Even as WikiLeaks released another trove of internal documents from Clinton’s campaign on Wednesday, Putin insisted his country was not involved in an effort to influence the U.S. presidential election. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-is-a-dirty-liar/770353/20 "2016-11-01T21:53:07Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > [That came from Jon Huntsman’s father.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/31/jon-huntsman-sr-romney-taxes_n_4184334.html)[Here’s what he actually said](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/31/jon-huntsman-sr-romney-taxes_n_4184334.html), not that you actually care about lying: What is this with Republicans not wanting anyone to see their tax returns? > > You merely \*hope \*they’re false. Enough facts regarding Manafort have already come out that an honest person would not have said what you just have. > > Already debunked. > > In conclusion: \*\*adaher \*\*is a dirty liar. … or a prattle-slip Pro-Trumpkin? One who may have doubts about what has been sent down from Command…? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-is-a-dirty-liar/770353.md?page=2)