# Harry Reid is a dirty liar

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-is-a-dirty-liar/770353>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 1, 2016, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-is-a-dirty-liar/770353 "2016-11-01T12:25:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-is-a-dirty-liar/770353/21 "2016-11-01T23:42:02Z")

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> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#):
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> There’s a difference between a foreign power taking a stand (the US certainly hasn’t remained mum about many elections in other lands), and a US candidate parroting the foreign power’s propaganda, after having lengthy business ties with that country.

Donald also parrots the line the about Hillary provoking Vlad into war -

> **[Trump warns of World War III if Clinton is elected | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2016/10/25/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-world-war-iii-syria/)**
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> Donald Trump warned in an interview Tuesday that Hillary Clinton’s policies as president to address the Syrian conflict would lead to World War III, arguing the Democratic nominee would draw the US into armed confrontation with Russia, Syria and...

> [@Donald Trump](#):
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> Donald Trump warned in an interview Tuesday that Hillary Clinton’s policies as president to address the Syrian conflict would lead to World War III, arguing the Democratic nominee would draw the US into armed confrontation with Russia, Syria and Iran.  
> “What we should do is focus on ISIS. We should not be focusing on Syria,” Trump told Reuters on Tuesday morning at his resort in Doral, Florida. “You’re going to end up in World War III over Syria if we listen to Hillary Clinton.”
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> The Republican nominee, who has called for a rapprochement with Russia in order to jointly combat ISIS, argued that his Democratic rival’s calls for taking a more aggressive posture in Syria to bring the conflict there to an end and combat ISIS will only draw the US into a larger war. Trump’s remarks come as he trails Clinton in most national and key battleground state polls just two weeks from Election Day.
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> “You’re not fighting Syria anymore, you’re fighting Syria, Russia and Iran, all right? Russia is a nuclear country, but a country where the nukes work as opposed to other countries that talk,” he said.

And from a rally a few days ago -

> **[Trump says Clinton is too tough on Putin - The Boston Globe](https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2016/10/27/donald-trump-says-hillary-clinton-too-tough-putin/Qw0TaHzmWZCFHImQmocFaM/story.html)**
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> ‘‘She speaks very badly of Putin, and I don’t think that’s smart,’’ Trump said of the Russian leader. “How do you speak so badly of someone?”

> [@Donald](#):
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> Donald Trump is criticizing rival Hillary Clinton for being too tough on Russian President Vladimir Putin.
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> Speaking at a rally in Springfield, Ohio, Trump took issue with Clinton’s criticism of the Russian strongman, who has been denounced for his military assertiveness and anti-democratic tendencies.
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> ‘‘She speaks very badly of Putin, and I don’t think that’s smart,’’ Trump said. ‘‘How do you speak so badly of someone?’’

Weird, isn’t it, how Donald’s such a flake, but he somehow always manages to stay on message about Vlad (who, you may recall, he claims he doesn’t know.)

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-is-a-dirty-liar/770353/22 "2016-11-01T23:52:52Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> [http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/01/us/politics/fbi-russia-election-donald-trump.html?\_r=0](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/01/us/politics/fbi-russia-election-donald-trump.html?_r=0)
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> I’ve never understood how Democrats can have this prick as their Senate leader. Dirtiest guy in the Senate.

> [@adaher](#):
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> Reid goes just a bit farther than your average politician of any party.

If we’re talking ‘dirty,’ he doesn’t go nearly as far as Sen. Burr (R-NC) who was disappointed that there wasn’t a bullseye on the pic of Hillary he saw on a gun magazine.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-is-a-dirty-liar/770353/23 "2016-11-02T01:42:39Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> In conclusion: \*\*adaher \*\*is a dirty liar.

For about a week last month, to my utter shock, \*\*adaher \*\*actually wrote some sober and reasonably considered posts, and I took him off of ignore (I could still read what people quote of him).

He’s back on now.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-is-a-dirty-liar/770353/24 "2016-11-02T04:41:48Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> If liberals actually thought he meant it they’d be rushing to appease him by voting for Trump.

Only an idiot could believe something like that.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-is-a-dirty-liar/770353/25 "2016-11-02T14:15:17Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> Only an idiot could believe something like that.

Well, an idiot typed it. No reason he shouldn’t believe it.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-is-a-dirty-liar/770353/26 "2016-11-02T16:35:36Z")

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“Dirtiest” guy in the Senate?

How about Senator Mitch McConnell, who has blocked a judicial nominee (not even really blocked, but refused a hearing, refused to let members vote) for over 200 days and has said he’ll continue to do so if Clinton wins? How about the complete dereliction of duty, attack on one of the other supposedly co-equal branches of government, all for blatantly obvious admitted political games? How about every GOP Senator that agrees with him?

How about Ted Cruz, whose government shutdown stunt cost the country its AAA rating and billions of dollars? A guy who so sociopathic he can support the man who insulted his wife? Someone who thinks we need 100 racist assholes like Jesse Helms in the Senate?

How about Jim Inhofe, who thinks a snowball on the Senate floor disprove global warming, a catastrophic man-made disaster that has so far caused weather changes which have hurt crops, costed us billions of dollars, and may in fact wipe out mankind?

How about Saxby Chambliss, who thinks hormone levels in men excuses them from rape in the military?

How about Tom Coburn, who thinks gays are infiltrating the government, wants the death penalty for doctors who perform abortions, thinks breast implants make you healthier (WTF?), blocked the 9/11 First Responders bill, and voted against the Hurricane Sandy bill but later begged for money when his own state was hit with a tornado?

Harry Reid is a saint compared to these people. Harry Reid said nothing that we didn’t already suspect. And despite your lying on what the article states, we know there is a link between Russia and Trump. You see, using your logic, there’s already an investigation into the links, and while the conclusions are still speculative, the fact that there’s an investigation means there’s a connection. That’s your logic for anything Dems do, so you deserve the same logic back. Besides, why should we listen to the FBI now when their director has been outed as a shill for the GOP? Obama should fire him the day after the election, and Clinton should fuck the GOP and hire someone completely loyal to her to prevent shit like this from happening again.

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**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-is-a-dirty-liar/770353/27 "2016-11-02T16:41:38Z")

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It makes a lot more sense when you replace “Harry Reid” with “adaher” and “dirty liar” with “intellectually bankrupt man-child.”

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-is-a-dirty-liar/770353/28 "2016-11-02T22:04:32Z")

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So how about Trump, and Putin, and Manafort? Who’s “porking” who there?

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-is-a-dirty-liar/770353/29 "2016-11-03T10:23:01Z")

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Well, two can play this game:

> **[Report: Indictment ‘likely’ in FBI’s Clinton Foundation probe](https://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/304105-report-indictment-likely-in-fbis-clinton-foundation-probe/)**
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> Sources told Fox News that the investigation will likely lead to an indictment.

Indictments likely in Clinton Foundation case, according to sources within the FBI.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-is-a-dirty-liar/770353/30 "2016-11-03T11:37:18Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Well, two can play this game:
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> [http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/304105-report-indictment-likely-in-fbis-clinton-foundation-probe](http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/304105-report-indictment-likely-in-fbis-clinton-foundation-probe)
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> Indictments likely in Clinton Foundation case, according to sources within the FBI.

That is an incredibly vague article – an indictment of who? And when? And are these the same sorts of unnamed sources who used bogus right-wing screeds (like “Clinton Cash”) as the basis of their investigation?

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-is-a-dirty-liar/770353/31 "2016-11-03T11:41:20Z")

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It doesn’t really matter. Corruption in the Clinton foundation is corruption with the Clintons.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-is-a-dirty-liar/770353/32 "2016-11-03T11:54:11Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> It doesn’t really matter. Corruption in the Clinton foundation is corruption with the Clintons.

What doesn’t matter? Whether the anonymous sources are bullshitters who used right-wing bullshit to fake investigations? Come on.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-is-a-dirty-liar/770353/33 "2016-11-03T12:07:03Z")

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If it’s bad sourcing, then yeah, that matters, although turnabout is fair play.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-is-a-dirty-liar/770353/34 "2016-11-03T12:09:33Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> If it’s bad sourcing, then yeah, that matters, although turnabout is fair play.

So you’re saying Harry Reid’s “turnabout” was “fair play” even if it’s not true?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-is-a-dirty-liar/770353/35 "2016-11-03T12:18:16Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> It doesn’t really matter. Corruption in the Clinton foundation is corruption with the Clintons.

If we hold you to the same standard you’re holding Harry Reid to in the OP, Reid is a freaking saint by comparison.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-is-a-dirty-liar/770353/36 "2016-11-03T12:22:39Z")

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Hardly. Fox cited sources. Reid just talked out of his ass.

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**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-is-a-dirty-liar/770353/37 "2016-11-03T13:40:43Z")

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And you never do that, laddie.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-is-a-dirty-liar/770353/38 "2016-11-03T14:09:00Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> It doesn’t really matter. Corruption in the Clinton foundation is corruption with the Clintons.

You’re just like Trump, a slimy bullshit artist who says whatever it takes in the moment. You, and he don’t give a fuck about accuracy, just throw shit against the wall and hope for the best.

I assume you don’t sexually assault random women, so you got that going for you.

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**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-is-a-dirty-liar/770353/39 "2016-11-03T14:12:28Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> It is worse than that. Putin has been openly threatening Nuclear War on the USA if Hillary Clinton is elected.

I thought Hillary Clinton was the one threatening to shoot down Russian planes if elected. That’s one of the scariest statements I’ve heard from a candidate since Goldwater was running for President.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harry-reid-is-a-dirty-liar/770353/40 "2016-11-03T14:34:00Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Well, two can play this game:
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> [http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/304105-report-indictment-likely-in-fbis-clinton-foundation-probe](http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/304105-report-indictment-likely-in-fbis-clinton-foundation-probe)
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> Indictments likely in Clinton Foundation case, according to sources within the FBI.

Is this [the same probe that was based on that “Clinton Cash” book](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/fbi-more-out-of-control-then-we-knew)?

If so, it’s not gonna disturb Hillary’s sleep.

ETA: [Apparently so.](http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/new-report-raises-fresh-doubts-about-the-fbi)

And [per Ezra Klein](http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/2/13496614/clinton-transparent-trump):

> [@](#):
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> We have Hillary Clinton’s full tax returns going back to the year 1977. We have, with varying degrees of completeness, public schedules from her time in the White House, the Senate, the State Department, and her multiple campaigns — you can pick any day of the past 25 years at random and have a pretty good chance of figuring out exactly where Clinton was and what she was doing.
> 
> We have lists of her campaign’s donors and her foundation’s donors. We have tens of thousands of emails from her time at the State Department — emails that have received more journalistic scrutiny than those of any Cabinet secretary in history. Thanks to Russian hackers trying to disrupt the US election, we have thousands of her campaign chair’s emails, giving us unprecedented insight into the inner workings of her political operation. We have reams of investigative reports, congressional testimony, and documentary evidence from the inquiries into Whitewater, Benghazi, and Travelgate.
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> We have Hillary Clinton’s multiple autobiographies, memoirs, and policy books. We have so many independent biographies that I couldn’t come up with an accurate count, but the number of serious efforts to explore Clinton’s past is at least in the dozens, and includes a 650-page investigative effort by Carl Bernstein, one of the reporters who broke Watergate. We also have all the sundry profiles, interviews, features, essays, wire stories, op-eds, and special reports that journalists have done on Clinton since she first entered the Arkansas governor’s mansion in 1978.

She’s almost certainly The Most Thoroughly Investigated Person In Human History, and nobody’s turned up a pony yet.

But the _next_ investigation - the next one will _get her for sure!!_ 😛

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